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little_leary
Posted 22/2/2006 6:08 AM (#112119)
Subject: lowering question


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does anyone know how low you can go on standard wheels. im thinkin about lowerin my metro by myself but im not sure how low to go. cheers
 
114gta
Posted 22/2/2006 8:13 AM (#112138 - in reply to #112119)
Subject: RE: lowering question
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Low as you like. It has bumpstops for a reason. I wouldnt reccomend riding around on bumpstops though...
 
little_leary
Posted 23/2/2006 10:39 AM (#112400 - in reply to #112119)
Subject: RE: lowering question


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lol. ok cheers. wot would happen if i just took all the fluid out and drove it like that? it probably sounds realy stupid but i dont realy have a clue
 
GSi in drag
Posted 23/2/2006 10:47 AM (#112404 - in reply to #112119)
Subject: RE: lowering question


Is it a Metro? Is it an R100?

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you'd damage the car most likely!

the bumpstops are there to stop the car bottoming out (apparently) when the suspension gives way, so they're only a precaution thing, otherwise you might weaken them a bit and their effectiveness will be lost

someone else might be able to recomend a decent height to go who's already had it done or who has done it themselves

Daz
 
little_leary
Posted 23/2/2006 10:51 AM (#112406 - in reply to #112119)
Subject: RE: lowering question


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so wot if i dont take it all out? would it still be a bit dodgy. cheers for the advice by the way guys
 
BenG
Posted 23/2/2006 10:56 AM (#112412 - in reply to #112406)
Subject: RE: lowering question


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little_leary - 23/2/2006 4:51 PM

so wot if i dont take it all out? would it still be a bit dodgy. cheers for the advice by the way guys


Have you looked at the how to guide on the main site which shows you how to lower you metro?
TBH your much better off lowering it this way(the proper way) rather than just letting fluid out..
 
GSi in drag
Posted 23/2/2006 11:01 AM (#112413 - in reply to #112412)
Subject: RE: lowering question


Is it a Metro? Is it an R100?

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BenG - 23/2/2006 4:56 PM

Have you looked at the how to guide on the main site which shows you how to lower you metro?
TBH your much better off lowering it this way(the proper way) rather than just letting fluid out..


i agree with that.

the best way to describe it is like a space-hopper. when it's pumped up it bounces along nicely and you have much more control.

let some air out and you have no real control, start rolling all over the place!

i know, not a perfect example, but a mental picture of why it's not adviseable!

Daz
 
little_leary
Posted 23/2/2006 11:04 AM (#112414 - in reply to #112119)
Subject: RE: lowering question


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i had a look at it, and i was guna give it a try, so i was lookin at it at college and one of my lecturers said i wudnt need to do all that, he said 'just let a load of the fluid out' so i dint know if it would be worth takin it all apart.
 
marccowley
Posted 23/2/2006 12:05 PM (#112456 - in reply to #112119)
Subject: RE: lowering question


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if you just take fluid out it can become dangerous, your better to cut the rods and put fluid back in, if you do do it, get the system evacuated because i didnt and when it hits bumps it makes a funny noise! lol, porbably just air or something but it aint good! marc
 
114gta
Posted 23/2/2006 12:52 PM (#112506 - in reply to #112119)
Subject: RE: lowering question
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Letting *some* fluid out will give you horribly overdamped suspension. It is also regarded as dangerous, although i have seen alot of metros lowered this way without serious lack of control. As the spring rate will be so much lower, the handling will be really bad. Dont even contemplate letting *all* the gas out, the bumpstops wont get damaged but thats not the point anyway - you will have no suspension atall, grip will deteriorate like crazy and besides, it'll look stupid. Suspension is there for a reason, Rover weren't stupid when they designed the system. Over every tiny bump in the road your tyres would do all the work and you would lose grip all the time as the tyres lose contact with the road, you'd no doubt spin within moments of hard cornering. Plus, just letting gas out will lower it at the front and not the back. This is because the units are linked front to back with pipes allowing the fluid to pass between front and back units - as the engine is in the front, all the weight is up front, as the pressure in the system drops, the weight at the front will force the gas to the rear units resulting in a nose dive.

Do it properly, your lecturer is wrong.

Edited by 114gta 23/2/2006 12:55 PM
 
BenG
Posted 23/2/2006 4:40 PM (#112599 - in reply to #112506)
Subject: RE: lowering question


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114gta - 23/2/2006 6:52 PM

Letting *some* fluid out will give you horribly overdamped suspension. It is also regarded as dangerous, although i have seen alot of metros lowered this way without serious lack of control. As the spring rate will be so much lower, the handling will be really bad. Dont even contemplate letting *all* the gas out, the bumpstops wont get damaged but thats not the point anyway - you will have no suspension atall, grip will deteriorate like crazy and besides, it'll look stupid. Suspension is there for a reason, Rover weren't stupid when they designed the system. Over every tiny bump in the road your tyres would do all the work and you would lose grip all the time as the tyres lose contact with the road, you'd no doubt spin within moments of hard cornering. Plus, just letting gas out will lower it at the front and not the back. This is because the units are linked front to back with pipes allowing the fluid to pass between front and back units - as the engine is in the front, all the weight is up front, as the pressure in the system drops, the weight at the front will force the gas to the rear units resulting in a nose dive.

Do it properly, your lecturer is wrong.


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