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Metromartin
Posted 22/3/2016 12:38 PM (#721554 - in reply to #455743)
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Hi Martin, Saw this mk1 MG Metro Turbo with out engine and thought might be of interest to you! its in the Neatherlands!
https://www.facebook.com/littlecarcompanyholland/posts/473308926191520
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Posted 22/3/2016 12:50 PM (#721560 - in reply to #721554)
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Metromartin - 22/3/2016 1:38 PM

Hi Martin, Saw this mk1 MG Metro Turbo with out engine and thought might be of interest to you! its in the Neatherlands!
https://www.facebook.com/littlecarcompanyholland/posts/473308926191520


thanks for the link
I have emailed them requesting price and condition.
DotMatrix
Posted 5/4/2016 10:30 PM (#721761 - in reply to #455743)
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I am in a bit of a hurry to fix the engine and change other stuff on the car before the first race the 7-8'th of may. Besides the engine fixing I need to change the windows for the plastic windows I have waiting and fit my new gearstick.

so far I have removed the engine, dismantled the engine and had a new center bearing cap fitted and had the block line-bored.

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Posted 8/4/2016 11:07 PM (#721790 - in reply to #455743)
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crank and flywheel balanced and fitted. ready for further engine assembly next weekend.




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Posted 17/4/2016 10:22 PM (#721867 - in reply to #455743)
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I finished assembling the engine and it is now half way in the car. next weekend I will finish connecting everything up and run in the cam.






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Posted 18/4/2016 9:10 AM (#721868 - in reply to #455743)
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That engine is looking pretty. My other half races a 998 mini so I really need to learn how to build these.

We're not allowed to build anything to your sort of spec tho, I think that would give her a little bit of an advantage!
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Posted 18/4/2016 11:23 AM (#721869 - in reply to #721868)
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willn - 18/4/2016 10:10 AM

That engine is looking pretty. My other half races a 998 mini so I really need to learn how to build these.

We're not allowed to build anything to your sort of spec tho, I think that would give her a little bit of an advantage!


thanks in what series of racing? what are you allowed to do to it?
you can do a lot with off the shelf parts
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Posted 18/4/2016 2:19 PM (#721870 - in reply to #455743)
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Shes in autograss.

You can skim the head slightly, +60 pistons, they have a class1 cam that is all you can use other than standard and that's about all. All the ignition system, inlet, exhaust has to be standard mini issue parts.

If you're getting serious you can balance rods and pistons but only to match the lightest one from the original engine. I know people who collect engines to weigh all the rods and pistons to find the lightest ones!
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Posted 18/4/2016 3:18 PM (#721871 - in reply to #721870)
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willn - 18/4/2016 3:19 PM

Shes in autograss.

You can skim the head slightly, +60 pistons, they have a class1 cam that is all you can use other than standard and that's about all. All the ignition system, inlet, exhaust has to be standard mini issue parts.

If you're getting serious you can balance rods and pistons but only to match the lightest one from the original engine. I know people who collect engines to weigh all the rods and pistons to find the lightest ones!


just had a quick browse through the rules. they are very restrictive, no chamber or port reshaping for instance, which is a place you can get a lot of power from an a-series engine. if you are allowed to use the 48bhp version of the 998 a+ engine you could use that instead of the regular 42bhp a-series version, and the as low a gearing as you are allowed I guess.
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Posted 26/4/2016 9:20 PM (#721933 - in reply to #455743)
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my radiator came back from the radiator reconditioning guy. he said that this type of mk1 radiator with metal ends is 4 times as effective as my old one which has an alloy core with plastic ends. further more they could not recondition my plastic-ended radiator. so if you have a metal ended radiator that is leaking, save it and have it reconditioned at some point. its cheaper than you think

also the radiator has been fitted with stronger hose connectors and a coolant fan sensor from an opel astra (on at 87 degrees off at 82 degrees) which goes well with my 74 degree thermostat.

the engine is now in and running. it sounds nice and I have a rolling road appointment for next week. it will be interesting to see if it makes a little more power and will also be fun to race it the 7'th and 8'th.




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Posted 2/5/2016 9:42 PM (#721971 - in reply to #455743)
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the car is not assembled and running nicely, ready for the rolling road adjustment tomorrow.

this weekend I fitted a perspex window and then ran out of sticky stuff. unfortunately I couldn't get new original rubber seals for non opening rear windows and don't have any that is worth reusing so fitted then with double sided tape and sticky stuff

I also fitted larger drop stops which will be fun to try. have never tried that before.




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Posted 8/5/2016 10:42 PM (#722032 - in reply to #455743)
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so I had it rolling roaded at 110bhp at 6900 rpm reving really nicely up to 7500 rpm, the engine was running really good sounding nicely and then after 1 lap of racing at this years first outing on a track this weekend, it lost power and I pulled over.

in the pit I took the head off and was meet with a burned wall between cylinders 3 and 4 and a burned head gasket.

crap. engine out and the block is off to the machine shop again.

an other thing I don't like is that my expensive new cam is scorred on one of the lobes after only 2 hours of running










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Posted 9/5/2016 11:41 AM (#722034 - in reply to #455743)
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I don't want to comment on your luck with engines in case it jinxes you...
but with MY luck, I wouldn't be surprised if it happened to me!

110bhp is a bloody nice figure though!
That's a 50% increase over my stock engine!
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Posted 9/5/2016 2:25 PM (#722036 - in reply to #722034)
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Marv_666 - 9/5/2016 12:41 PM

I don't want to comment on your luck with engines in case it jinxes you...
but with MY luck, I wouldn't be surprised if it happened to me!

110bhp is a bloody nice figure though!
That's a 50% increase over my stock engine!


Thanks
Yes it is quite annoying with this latest break down. I was hoping for it to last the full season like last year.
It will be interesting to see what it will cost to have this hole fixed.
Yes it seems that when tuned enough the time between rebuilds is short
KLAS
Posted 12/5/2016 10:21 PM (#722066 - in reply to #455743)
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regarding your new cam, did you check if the tappets did actually turn during lifting? there are quite a lot of new ones out there not ground to the correct radius. they will eat your cam in no time. sometimes they just need some help to start turning and work right after break-in.
sadly most of the time the cam maker will tell you that you used the wrong break-in lube, or not enough of it, no propper break-in procedure, or the wrong engine oil, etc.
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Posted 12/5/2016 10:22 PM (#722067 - in reply to #455743)
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double post ....

Edited by KLAS 12/5/2016 10:25 PM
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Posted 12/5/2016 10:59 PM (#722068 - in reply to #722066)
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KLAS - 12/5/2016 11:21 PM

regarding your new cam, did you check if the tappets did actually turn during lifting? there are quite a lot of new ones out there not ground to the correct radius. they will eat your cam in no time. sometimes they just need some help to start turning and work right after break-in.
sadly most of the time the cam maker will tell you that you used the wrong break-in lube, or not enough of it, no propper break-in procedure, or the wrong engine oil, etc.


can it be checked if they are turning while the engine is running? by watching the push rods?
help them start turning how?
but no, they are not turning all of them, this was clearly visible when I removed them from the wear marks.

yes I can imagine the range of excuses that cam makers can come up with. but so far they have been very helpfull in answering my questions, last question they send was to measure the installed spring height. probably to determine if they wear is caused by spring crush.

but the cam and tappets are going in again as they are as I need to be racing again the 11'th of june

Edited by DotMatrix 12/5/2016 11:02 PM
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Posted 17/5/2016 4:20 PM (#722088 - in reply to #722068)
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DotMatrix - 12/5/2016 11:59 PM

KLAS - 12/5/2016 11:21 PM

regarding your new cam, did you check if the tappets did actually turn during lifting? there are quite a lot of new ones out there not ground to the correct radius. they will eat your cam in no time. sometimes they just need some help to start turning and work right after break-in.
sadly most of the time the cam maker will tell you that you used the wrong break-in lube, or not enough of it, no propper break-in procedure, or the wrong engine oil, etc.


can it be checked if they are turning while the engine is running? by watching the push rods?
help them start turning how?
but no, they are not turning all of them, this was clearly visible when I removed them from the wear marks.

yes I can imagine the range of excuses that cam makers can come up with. but so far they have been very helpfull in answering my questions, last question they send was to measure the installed spring height. probably to determine if they wear is caused by spring crush.

but the cam and tappets are going in again as they are as I need to be racing again the 11'th of june


yes, you can watch them turning, i use some bright paint at the push rod end. the push rods won't turn on its own so it's a good indicator that the tappets are turning.
after you made sure the tappets will turn during assembly but you notice it will not turn when running a small twist at the push rod end may help. but watch your fingers.
if they won't turn during assenbly there is a problem that needs correcting. mostly the tappets can be reground, if you can find a shop that still has the correct tooling to do so.
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Posted 17/5/2016 4:48 PM (#722090 - in reply to #722088)
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KLAS - 17/5/2016 5:20 PM

yes, you can watch them turning, i use some bright paint at the push rod end. the push rods won't turn on its own so it's a good indicator that the tappets are turning.
after you made sure the tappets will turn during assembly but you notice it will not turn when running a small twist at the push rod end may help. but watch your fingers.
if they won't turn during assenbly there is a problem that needs correcting. mostly the tappets can be reground, if you can find a shop that still has the correct tooling to do so.


Thought it was something like that. Thank you for the info. Yes I checked that they were turning when i put them in and all of them went in smoothly and could turn. I will start it with out the rocker cover when i assemble the engine hopefully in the comming weekend.
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Posted 17/5/2016 4:51 PM (#722091 - in reply to #455743)
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And i guess that once the tappets have been helped to start turning they will continue to turn
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Posted 19/5/2016 6:57 AM (#722099 - in reply to #722091)
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DotMatrix - 17/5/2016 5:51 PM

And i guess that once the tappets have been helped to start turning they will continue to turn

if everything is right, yes they will
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Posted 22/5/2016 10:05 PM (#722131 - in reply to #455743)
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so I the block and cylinderhead had come back from the machine shop and I have started assembling it today.
you can see in the pictures where they welded the block.
I took the valves out to to measure the installed spring height and I noticed that especially the exhaust valves were in quite a bad shape, they were pitted and all black so I cut the 45 degree angle on them again and started lapping them in.
also started to assemble the engine and got as far as possible. now I am waiting for a 4.6:1 final drive I ordered before I can continue.








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Posted 30/5/2016 10:18 PM (#722164 - in reply to #455743)
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some of the valves was not so great looking so I cut a bit of material off the exhausts and was busy lapping the valves in. When I got to valve number 7 I noticed that the seat had a crack in it going all the way through so I dropped the cylinder head off at the machine shop and they said they would fix it during this week. The guys in the machine shop are getting to know me quite well

other than that I changed my 4.13:1 gearing for a 4.66:1 gearing which will lower the speed at 7500rpm in 4'th from 167km/h to 150km/h which will be more reachable.






DotMatrix
Posted 10/6/2016 10:35 PM (#722212 - in reply to #455743)
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last weekend I assembled the engine and put it back into the car. I have done all the adjustments needed and hopefully it will last a little longer this time anyway this is two pictures of me checking the cam timing and putting the engine back in.




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Posted 31/7/2016 2:05 PM (#722494 - in reply to #455743)
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I went to a rally-MOT which is an additional MOT I have to attend to show that the car still complies with the rules. there the MOT guy could enlighten me about a new rule from FIA that stated that wires were not allowed to pass between the roll-cage and the body of the car which the wire going to the back of the car did. So I cut them and put plugs on them and passed them through inside the cill instead. Also I was told to use 3x 6mm bolts for the fire extinguisher instead of 2.










Edited by DotMatrix 31/7/2016 2:07 PM
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