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ralphh85

Posted 25/4/2008 2:51 PM (#407590)
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thought i would start one of these....

might not look much different to what it did the other day but it is as i put new crank shaft seal in, torqued flywheel up, fitted 2.0L turbo clutch, gearbox and starter. also cut of the V8 starter motor bracket bit which was in the way of the drive shaft.

so i now have a fully functional engine and box, just need to more the engine mounts and put on a remote oil filter to give room for the drive shaft to pass the engine.

the other day i fitted a spacer tot he inside crank pulley and removed the outside one to bring the pulleys in a bit and create bit more room.

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DAVESEI

Posted 26/4/2008 11:00 AM (#407863 - in reply to #407590)
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cant wait to see this should be a cool car

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Posted 26/5/2008 9:27 AM (#416954 - in reply to #407590)
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been quite on here but i been busy working on this still.

using metro subframe as i pressure the suspension setup over MGF. and the metro subframe i got was in good nick and the mgf one was tad bad.

just been making engine mounts out of an old pizza box which i will turn in to metal at work tomoz, just got to do the gearbox side mounting then it will be bolted in.

next up are coilovers (kinda like my front) and get drive shafts in. and fit some R200 calipers i think.

Ralph

edit, it will clearly need a custom stainless exhaust making up as the original manifolds hit the frame and get in the way.

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Posted 26/5/2008 11:55 AM (#416988 - in reply to #407590)
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this is the best project i've ever seen, top marks ralph!! i love it when ppl think outside the box

i can't wait to hear it running!

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Posted 26/5/2008 12:47 PM (#417000 - in reply to #407590)
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Talon made their own KV6 rear engined tro, looked like a beast

I cant wait to see this badboy fire up! its so promising! and if you go for a tuned 3.9l it'll just fly!

ralphh85

Posted 26/5/2008 3:01 PM (#417039 - in reply to #407590)
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mgf gear linkage would work but i dont entirly liket he idea of a flexy linkage, think its likely to make the gears feel bit Sh*t. tho i have no experience of it. my friend also said this about an MR2 he had, said you could feel that it was remote.

what im more likely to do is just run a linkage back under the engine and in, i would suspect this is how the libra's etc did it.

Ralph

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Posted 26/5/2008 3:09 PM (#417041 - in reply to #407590)
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I have an MGF and an MR2, got to say the F does not feel like a remote setup at all, plenty of feedback, the stick even shudders when you go for reverse with the revs to high and it crunches in (does the reverse brake ever work on a PG1?!)

Been so long since I drove the MR2 I cant remember but to be honest the whole car felt remote, its not a drivers car, the whole handling is very soft and detached.

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Posted 26/5/2008 3:25 PM (#417048 - in reply to #407590)
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ralphh mate you are the nuttiest most out of the box person i have ever come across. you have to get this finished its gonna be the B*****ks

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Posted 26/5/2008 6:04 PM (#417153 - in reply to #407590)
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MGF Linkages are plenty strong enough and woudl make the job very easy. There pretty thick cables, takes some cutting!!!!

ralphh85

Posted 8/6/2008 2:06 PM (#421093 - in reply to #407590)
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well once again been pretty quite but have been makign slow progress, i got one engine moutn done, another there but not fully welded up, and the gearbox end i have made bit which holds the mounst to the box but just need to make the parts which hold them to the frame.

once these are sorted i will be able to get it up on axle stands and make sure it all works.

if it works as a unit then it will defiantly be possible and not much harder than putting a KV6 in the back (but much better!).

Ralph

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Posted 8/6/2008 7:53 PM (#421182 - in reply to #407590)
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certainly coming along!

keep up the good work.....can i be the first to get in line for a ride in it???

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Posted 9/6/2008 1:42 AM (#421201 - in reply to #407590)
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Ralph, that is gonna be one mental metro!

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Posted 9/6/2008 3:40 PM (#421402 - in reply to #407590)
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thanks for the compliments, tho i dotn think its that mad, people put V8's in all sorts, tho i havent seen another metro yet, probly been done somewhere tho.

3 mounts sorted 1 to go!

she will be up on stands for last tests next

Ralph

edit, i would still be on the first mount without the waterjet!

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Posted 12/5/2009 3:01 PM (#511117 - in reply to #421402)
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ralphh85 - 9/6/2008 3:40 PM

thanks for the compliments, tho i dotn think its that mad, people put V8's in all sorts, tho i havent seen another metro yet, probly been done somewhere tho.

3 mounts sorted 1 to go!

she will be up on stands for last tests next

i knew some 1 that built a v8 nova
only the exhaust and the brakes give it any idea of what it was, it was completly standard to look at, but so dangerous lol-sidewards in anygear

Ralph

edit, i would still be on the first mount without the waterjet!

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Posted 9/6/2008 3:43 PM (#421404 - in reply to #407590)
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i like it allot keep up the good work, not bad to tell you work with metal for a living!

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ralphh85

Posted 16/6/2008 5:03 PM (#423947 - in reply to #407590)
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engine mounts tacked in place, steering arms fixed in place.

got pair of wheels on, and the wheel clears the water pump, there its in roughly ride hight, even ont he bump stops the tyre will clear, and thats with no disk on, and i can always grind the end of the water pump.

and if it all goes tits i will put on an electric water pump.

just need to sort brakes, coilovers, drive shafts, altinator, and maybe few other bits then it will be a complete lump!

Ralph

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Posted 16/6/2008 5:09 PM (#423951 - in reply to #407590)
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farkin awesome

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Posted 16/6/2008 5:17 PM (#423955 - in reply to #407590)
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thats coming on really well

DAVESEI

Posted 18/6/2008 7:55 AM (#424379 - in reply to #407590)
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looking good mate

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Posted 18/6/2008 9:42 AM (#424420 - in reply to #407590)
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A lot of good work going into that, going to be one fun car to drive, and the sound it's going to be making

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Posted 19/6/2008 7:07 AM (#424679 - in reply to #407590)
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thanks for the coments chaps!

jeckulz - 18/6/2008 5:34 PM

f**k ME!
That looks ace.
Novel way of mounting a V8, but then I suppose you had little choice.

Good Sh*t

as you say little choice but this seems like a good method all the same, uses up little space and it fits in nice. only let down is the weight distribution, however the engine block only 140mm off center which is alot less than the k series, and with the gearbox on the other end and a battery its gonna be fairly well ballenced.

Ralph

edit, renault transaxle box is used fare bit but its more expencive, harder to find, harder to get parts for and its french and gay! so the PG1 won!

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Posted 19/6/2008 7:28 AM (#424685 - in reply to #424679)
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ralphh85 - 19/6/2008 12:07 PM
edit, renault transaxle box is used fare bit but its more expencive, harder to find, harder to get parts for and its french and gay! so the PG1 won!

Like the reaons for choosing the pg1 box! hey its a jap box though mirrored lol.
Anyway, I hope you prove everyone that the pg1 was the right choice. With the correct oil and steel cage bearings they last.

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Posted 19/6/2008 4:02 PM (#424882 - in reply to #407590)
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really hope u get this all workin m8, carnt wait 2 c the end result!!

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Posted 22/6/2008 5:22 AM (#425365 - in reply to #407590)
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jeckulz - 22/6/2008 5:22 AM

Potentialy a stupid question.
Whats the engine out of?
Or have you already said and I cant read?

Range Rover.

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Posted 22/6/2008 5:57 AM (#425366 - in reply to #407590)
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How are you gonna fix the subframe/engine assembly into the back of the car mate?
Great to see this coming along!

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Posted 29/6/2008 3:54 AM (#427052 - in reply to #425366)
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yes it is a Range rover engine, SD1 would have been better but harder to get, plus iw ill replace it with a rebuilt V8 after it works.

Eddbmxdude - 22/6/2008 11:57 AM

How are you gonna fix the subframe/engine assembly into the back of the car mate?
Great to see this coming along!

no not silly at all, but that shouldnt be hard, i would really like to know how the KV6 metros have been done, my plan is to try an see if i can bolt it to existing mounts, which would keep it more legal from a no sva test, else i will weld on some mounts which accept the std front subframe.

theres a fare bits to bolt it to back there, rear subframe/seatbelt/towing eye mounts.

i wouldnt have thought the engine pushing forward is a huge force in comparison to what a car goes through when cornering/braking especially when being abused like handbrake turns etc, which dont break rear subframes off.

Ralph

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Posted 10/7/2008 3:51 PM (#430186 - in reply to #407590)
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its gonna haev a fairly weird exhaust, gonna bring the exhaust fromt he rear bank, over the gearbox, under the other banks exhaust, then join the up under the sump, then in tot he resonator then in to the silencer, here the start to the tubular manifold, not pretty welding as i only have stainless mig, but any pratuding welds on the inside i ground out with the multi tool so it should be ok, hopefully better than the old cast iron thign and alot lighter.

probly wont be able to see it for long as i will heat wrap it anyway to help keep engien bay temp down.

Ralph

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Posted 20/7/2008 11:32 AM (#432570 - in reply to #407590)
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as a check to make sure i have the correct lengths for the drive shafts my mate shortened one of mine and lengthened the other, done what you can see, then goign to weld them up sleeve it then weld round the sleeve to, no point in doing anymore as in the long run i will have a new set made up as it will be much stronger than std shafts. but this will proove it works with out spending any money.

also got a set of they hispec hand brake calipers arriving on monday.

Ralph

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Posted 20/7/2008 12:22 PM (#432584 - in reply to #407590)
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Did you have to move the engine and box over to the passenger side a bit then? I thought you had it fitted with the standard PG1 gearbox mount still.

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Posted 20/7/2008 1:13 PM (#432600 - in reply to #432584)
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Did you have to move the engine and box over to the passenger side a bit then? I thought you had it fitted with the standard PG1 gearbox mount still.

yeah budged it all down a bit, 2 reasons, one major as it didnt fit, and the other it will even upt he side to side weight distribution.

the engine itself is only 30mm or so longer but it has lots of junk on the end like waterpump etc which take up fare bit off room. i could possibly made it fit by putting on an electric watrepump, but moving it over gives plenty of clearance and saves having it crammed in there, and helps the weight issue.

Ralph

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Posted 20/7/2008 1:17 PM (#432603 - in reply to #407590)
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i got them almost right and they will sertainly work, however the short shaft could have been 5mm longer as it runs close to the outside, and the logn shaft ran fairly well in, tho is still 20mm from hitting the inside of the joint.

so when i get the new ones made up i will probly change the lengths by 5mm or so.

Ralph

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Posted 20/7/2008 3:23 PM (#432624 - in reply to #407590)
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nice work ralph taking shape,
I use broken landrover half shafts as stock to make all sorts in my lathe, its bloody hard tho for my set up

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Posted 20/7/2008 3:48 PM (#432626 - in reply to #407590)
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pitty i didnt get any pics or vids, at one point we had a bright red spring of swarf coming off it! it was only the outside 4mm ish which was hard tho.

Ralph

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Posted 24/7/2008 2:24 PM (#433743 - in reply to #407590)
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brakes are being a bit of a pain in the ass, as expected! but i think i finally have a plan now.

got some little brackets cut out an welded up which bolt to the hub and hold these little beautys, gonna have to pay the calliper slight attention and also fit a 4-5mm ish wheel spacer to fit the SPI wheel over it but thats not an issue, i will need at least 3mm spacer to fit the vented foot brake calliper on to.

just need to get an mgf handbrake setup, and make up some brackets to link it to the calliper.

Ralph

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Posted 24/7/2008 5:18 PM (#433788 - in reply to #407590)
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great work mate i think ur not all there

...which is why this project is possible lol only joking more pics

then calipers look cool

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Posted 25/7/2008 5:45 AM (#433858 - in reply to #407590)
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thanks for the compliments, i think!

well it obviously dont look much like a metro yet but it will soon enough. just need it all in one working lump before the metro gets broken.

Ralph

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Posted 25/7/2008 7:59 AM (#433891 - in reply to #407590)
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ralphh85 - 25/7/2008 12:34 PM

nah thats just the handbrake, it will have normal vented front calliper on the other side of the disk.

i will be needing a set of them soon, but im skint so will have to wait till next month!

Ralph

I've got a set you could have for nothing but they are non vented

Someone donate this man some brakes, I want to this this beast running!
Keep at it mate!

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Posted 25/7/2008 6:36 PM (#434083 - in reply to #407590)
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i got a set of non vented ones, been offerd a pair of vented which will probly have, and have plenty more to get on with in the mean time.

Ralph

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Posted 3/8/2008 8:47 AM (#436084 - in reply to #407590)
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hand brake finally sorted, calipers fit under SPI wheels with 3mm wheel spacers, which will be required to use vented discs anyway. and accept mgf handbrake cables.

started on other exhaust manifold.

mate welded and sleeved the drive shafts, once i have other U rated PG1 with different gearset in i will eb able to finally fit them

things which need sorting before its a compleate lump are....

main brake calipers
Altinator
Coilovers
clutch slave cylinder
flywheel cover
subframe seem welding and painting

slowly getting there.......

Ralph

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Posted 3/8/2008 11:55 AM (#436140 - in reply to #407590)
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nice work ralph

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Posted 3/8/2008 12:42 PM (#436153 - in reply to #407590)
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your a mad man, i like it!

Will be seriously impressive when its finished!

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Posted 3/8/2008 12:53 PM (#436156 - in reply to #407590)
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Cant wait to see this finished. Sounds like its going to be a beast. Be worth all the hard work in the end just to have something so individual

Great work Ralph

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Posted 4/8/2008 3:02 AM (#436295 - in reply to #407590)
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ralphh85 - 26/5/2008 6:40 PM

Alex_Metro - 26/5/2008 5:58 PM

Nice project this. I didn't know anyone had made a KV6 Metro

in the back yeah, mostly for rallying tho. i would like to talk to someone who has if anyone knows anyone as i wanna quiz them on gearlinkages.

cheers for the positive remarks matti/edd/alex! i most certainly like to try an think out the box!!

Ralph

the gearshift on my trophy is really slick and close, nice positive movement

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Posted 5/8/2008 2:23 PM (#436723 - in reply to #436295)
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jasonr - 4/8/2008 9:02 AM

the gearshift on my trophy is really slick and close, nice positive movement

im gonan try an use a lotus elise gear change if i can find one, looking at mates and they are very compact and feel very good, never compaird it to an mgf so i cant coment there but the elise one is much smaller, iirc the mgf one is a fair lump.

anyway 2nd manifold done, just need to get the faces milled or ground flat as thye have all distorted a bit with welding.

also gonna seal the ends up pump air in and put it under wtare to check for air leaks.

not pretty but will do the job.

Ralph

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Posted 5/8/2008 4:08 PM (#436797 - in reply to #407590)
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are you going to do the exhaust as twin exit, might make life easier?

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Posted 5/8/2008 4:16 PM (#436803 - in reply to #436797)
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jasonr - 5/8/2008 10:08 PM

are you going to do the exhaust as twin exit, might make life easier?

nah, that was my origanal plan but to keep pipes as long as possable and to ahve them exit the subframe in a normal place im bringing the rear bank over the top of the gearbox, under the other manifold and then join up and leave the subframe and stright in to resonator.

plus single pipe will be less obvious.

Ralph

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Posted 8/8/2008 10:57 AM (#437500 - in reply to #436803)
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ralphh85 - 5/8/2008 10:16 PM

plus single pipe will be less obvious.

Ralph

So now its a sleeper V8?
f**kin Ay!

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Posted 8/8/2008 11:34 AM (#437520 - in reply to #437500)
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jeckulz - 8/8/2008 4:57 PM

ralphh85 - 5/8/2008 10:16 PM

plus single pipe will be less obvious.

Ralph

So now its a sleeper V8?
f**kin Ay!

yeah there should be no blatent modifactions on the outside, over the top of the engine there will be a laminated panel with black carpet over the top so should all fit in tot he nice Austin Metro Clubman 1.3 L. just the lovely rumble of the V8 for thoes with an ear for engines.

got the calipers on. looking good, fit just under the SPi's with 3mm spacers as didnt grind these calipers down like i did the front ones!

Ralph

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Posted 8/8/2008 10:08 AM (#437493 - in reply to #407590)
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needed calipers and a set of disks for the front anyway, so bought a set of these, 99! brand new!

will probly fit the new hubs on the front.

just need some braided brake lines for the rear.

Ralph

edit, anyone know how much the abs sensors are worth???

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Posted 9/8/2008 12:40 PM (#437775 - in reply to #407590)
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gearbox out of car,

this is the PG1 U box with 3.6 final drive (220T) and mgf gear ratios, im gonna rase all the gear ratios to give it even higher gearing to sout the low revving V8, then i can get this box bolted up to the V8.

Ralph

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Posted 9/8/2008 1:19 PM (#437786 - in reply to #407590)
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Pg1 gearbox...

longest ratio's available are:

1st - 2.923
2nd - 1.750
3rd - 1.222
4th - 0.848
5th - 0.649

I believe the standard 220T box has a K gearset, so you will already have the longest 1st, 2nd and 3rd ratio's. Get yourself a diesel uprated box and take 4th and 5th and your ready to rock and roll!!!

edit - just read your got a C gearset installed on that 3.6 FD

lee

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ralphh85

Posted 9/8/2008 6:37 PM (#437858 - in reply to #407590)
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thats what im doing, i have the c gearset in there but im changing it to 220T 1 and 2 and desisel U 3 4 and 5. 3 being the same in both boxes.

in the first pic thats the turbo input shaft 1 and 2 in the V8 which i used to line up the clutch

Ralph

edit, it should drive very much like the normal C ratio bot (but higher) with the exception that 4th is tad longer than the rest.

Edited by ralphh85 9/8/2008 6:42 PM

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ralphh85 - 9/8/2008 6:37 PM

thats what im doing, i have the c gearset in there but im changing it to 220T 1 and 2 and desisel U 3 4 and 5. 3 being the same in both boxes.

in the first pic thats the turbo input shaft 1 and 2 in the V8 which i used to line up the clutch

Ralph

edit, it should drive very much like the normal C ratio bot (but higher) with the exception that 4th is tad longer than the rest.

if you need any help sorucing ratio's or any techincal stuff then drop me a PM.

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i have no idea what most of this stuff means thats going on in the journal

but id like to say it looks an amazing project

i get excited when new pics come on and how ur progress is getting on

keep up the good work

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i have no idea what most of this stuff means thats going on in the journal

but id like to say it looks an amazing project

i get excited when new pics come on and how ur progress is getting on

keep up the good work

thank you

will keep it updated.

will do Lee, if i find im missing anything will let you know.

Ralph

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Posted 10/8/2008 3:11 PM (#438145 - in reply to #407590)
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gearboxes dismantled and one reassembled, so now have a workign gearbox with pretty high ratios, should counter the effects of having small wheels. theroretical top speed of over 156 mph @ 6krpm which i should get out of the next V8 i build, tho this one will only rev to 5k.

Ralph

edit, spec of box is now...

Torsen type A diff
full steel caged bearings
220T 1+2+R and final drive,
DI 3+4+5

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Posted 10/8/2008 3:49 PM (#438163 - in reply to #407590)
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drive it like its hired

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it looks like you used mustard

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Posted 10/8/2008 5:54 PM (#438272 - in reply to #407590)
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That box deffinately gonna take the torque of a v8 Ralph?

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Posted 11/8/2008 3:18 AM (#438376 - in reply to #407590)
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you tell me lol.

the v8 is only 30 foot pounds more than a 2.0L turbo so should be ok, tho i hope to put more than that out in the end. bearings are a weak point an i got better ones so should be alright.

petrol head, think it was called instant mustard or something.

Ralph

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Posted 14/8/2008 2:10 PM (#440242 - in reply to #407590)
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more stuff done but not had time to post pics on here.

exhaust from the rear bank has been routed under the front bank where they will join as they go under the engine.

coilover bottom mount sorted on the drivers side. just need to sort the top mounts now.

god bless the waterjet cutter its saved me alot of time and money!! exhaust flanges/coilover mounts/engine mounts/gearbox mounts/caliper mounts/engine adaptor plate/pulley spacer/and more!!!

Ralph

edit, not forgetting the lovely gaz 14 inch adjustable coilovers which came through the other day! the springs are actually going on the front of the car and the ones on the front will go on the back.

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Posted 14/8/2008 2:11 PM (#440244 - in reply to #407590)
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get it in get it in get it in

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Awesome

get it in get it in get it in

going as quick as i can old boy, on the bright side the exhaust and the coilovers are one of the 2 main final parts of the puzzle, alternator shouldn't cause any grief just not got round to buying one yet or finding out which is the smallest that will fit.

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Posted 14/8/2008 2:19 PM (#440251 - in reply to #407590)
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I have no doubt that this car will win awwards, the quality of the workman ship is second to none thanks party to the waterjet cutter.

That exhaust looks good, will one bank have significantly shorter tubes than the other? Will make a unique sounding V8 if so, imagine a Imprezza engine with twice the cylinders!

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Posted 14/8/2008 2:22 PM (#440252 - in reply to #407590)
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this is coming a long really well!!

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Posted 14/8/2008 2:41 PM (#440268 - in reply to #407590)
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drive it like its hired

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nice work ralph,
i still think mounting the subframe to the rear of the car will be a headache. but with the facilities you have access to and your skills should go together like a giant weld your self meccano kit

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Posted 14/8/2008 4:07 PM (#440332 - in reply to #407590)
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thanks chaps

waterjet is the only machine which is above the average persons grasp, my welder is only a cheap 135T clarke that i have had since i was 16!

i can offer the waterjet cutting service to tohers and also anyone can approach a laser cutter and get stuff done. laser is generally cheaper than waterjet but not as versatile (i would rather have a waterjet myself).

thanks gaz, it will win awards if i can gte the rest of the car in to as good a shape! lol. might have to take up body work!

Ralph

edit, once bank does have longer secondarys, tho the rangy did to but not as much as this. having different lengths through out the sylinders as i have should give a very wide power band as each cylinder will have its own spot. not as good for getign a peak power figure but better for all round driving, coupled with what i have planned for the engine build (once cars driving) it should have a very useable power band.

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Posted 14/8/2008 4:58 PM (#440398 - in reply to #440332)
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damn that is going to be a funny metro

remember to put a vid on youtube when it is all done.

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Posted 14/8/2008 4:42 PM (#440375 - in reply to #407590)
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Loving this build Ralph!

Nice set of coil covers. did you custom make the bottom bracket for the coil over or is that a TF part?

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Posted 15/8/2008 3:23 AM (#440494 - in reply to #407590)
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custom made brackets martin, 6mm stainless steel so unlike the rest of the car wont rust.

i have never seen TF bottom arms.

good thing about doing it this way is i have universal coilovers which will always be available for spares etc, and also i can fit them how i want and with bearing mount top and bottom.

Ralph

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Posted 17/8/2008 3:40 AM (#441046 - in reply to #407590)
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yesterdays progress, they dont look very strong but i will brace them against each other, should be fine tho.

to hung over to type anything else.

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Posted 17/8/2008 4:59 PM (#441260 - in reply to #441046)
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Nice progress Ralph, I'm hoping to be over in pomland next year for a bit so might have to come and have a nosey

One question, how're you planning on doing engine removal work once the car's all finished, out separately or drop the whole subframe? Reason being, a thought just occured to me if you're doing the latter it might be worthwhile doing some quick connecters for things like brake lines so you don't have to sod around with bleeding brakes and the mess all the time.

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Posted 18/8/2008 5:22 AM (#441352 - in reply to #441046)
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ralphh85 - 17/8/2008 9:40 AM

yesterdays progress, they dont look very strong but i will brace them against each other, should be fine tho.

Hate to say it ralph, and many will probably disagree, and yes youre far more experienced than myself with this stuff...
But those coilover top mounts look like they'd bend inwards once theyre taking a hooning.
I hope Im very wrong

Edited by jeckulz 18/8/2008 5:22 AM

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Posted 18/8/2008 4:50 PM (#441605 - in reply to #441352)
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ralphh85 - 17/8/2008 9:40 AM

yesterdays progress, they dont look very strong but i will brace them against each other, should be fine tho.

Although they are quite thick plate, I would agree with you on that as it will be bending that will cause issues first, except for the second half of the sentence you've quote from Ralph, mentioning bracing, which will stiffen things up and take the bending load no problem.

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Posted 18/8/2008 5:34 AM (#441354 - in reply to #407590)
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I doubt thats going to collapse, its braced to fook!

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Posted 18/8/2008 7:53 AM (#441387 - in reply to #407590)
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anyones welcome to have a look MG Mad!

should be running around by then anyway.

i suspect engine changes will require subframe being dropped out, tho in the past when i have taken subframes out i have just removed the callipers and left them on the car.

certainly worth thinking about keeping as much stuff on either 1 side or the other.

once i have the mounts welded on i will use my imagination to work out weather they are strong enough. im fairly sure they will be but putting a strut brace from one side tot he other would make a big difference.

when i get it on the road first time best thing to do it slam it over a speed bump or 2 to give it the worst shock that it should ever take.

Ralph

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Posted 18/8/2008 12:34 PM (#441454 - in reply to #407590)
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just keep an eye out for fractures, and you'll be fine!

As long as you can weld, which you appear to be quite capable of doing xD then im sure it will last longer than most BMC stuff!

How long do you reckon until its in the car?

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Posted 19/8/2008 4:58 AM (#441710 - in reply to #407590)
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my in brains stress analysis is......

as they are now the force would be trying to rip the welds joining it to the subframe by the hydragas can mount, althought i think it would still be plenty string enough as it is if i brace one tot he other, it will move the center of the twisting force from the end of the mount over to the other mount, evening up the loud along the hole length of weld.

its over kill it wont break

and its not welded to the frame yet once you see how much weld i can get in there you will change your mind lol.

Ralph

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Posted 20/8/2008 1:10 PM (#442267 - in reply to #407590)
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progress so far, not much but got both top coilover mounts tacked on.

job list is,

exhaust mid section,
left coilover bottom mount,
clutch slave cylinder mounting,

then engine out an sand blast/paint frame!

Ralph

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Posted 20/8/2008 1:16 PM (#442272 - in reply to #407590)
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Be interesting to see how you mount this in the back of the metro using that subframe. I was thinking about a K series RWD but I don't know how easy/hard it would be to do? Nice journal so far Ralph, it's taking shape nicely.

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Posted 21/8/2008 5:50 AM (#442518 - in reply to #442272)
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Alex_Metro - 20/8/2008 7:16 PM

Be interesting to see how you mount this in the back of the metro using that subframe. I was thinking about a K series RWD but I don't know how easy/hard it would be to do? Nice journal so far Ralph, it's taking shape nicely.

k series ones (or at least kv6) have been done many a time, but i havent been lucky enough to see how they mounted the frames, think thats the easy bit tho as there are plenty of bits back there to bolt to, hoping not to have to weld to much as i wanna be honest but still avoid the sva test.

Ralph

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Posted 20/8/2008 1:38 PM (#442283 - in reply to #407590)
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coming along nicely Ralph

Edited by JamieS 20/8/2008 2:05 PM

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Posted 23/8/2008 6:10 AM (#443108 - in reply to #407590)
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ralph this is look to be a fine conversion you have

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Posted 25/8/2008 2:31 PM (#443756 - in reply to #407590)
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did nothing sat/sun but cracked on today, got vvc engine out of car, took out the 550LB springs, and replaced them with the softer 250LB springs.

removed V8 from the subframe, next up gonna seem weld it and finish welding on the mounts which are tacked and and weld in a few gussets i have made up.

then got a flywheel cover to make, and it can all go back together for the last time! will be a relief to have it together as a lump for the last time!

Ralph

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Posted 28/8/2008 4:11 PM (#444630 - in reply to #407590)
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ok been smoking out the garage by seem welding every seem i can find which is remotly structual ont he subfram, also fully welding ont he coilover mounts and steering rod mounts.

probly given my self lung cancer to.

just need to seem weld the other half and the engine mounts and gonna box in the front channel as i think thats a weak point.

Ralph

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Posted 28/8/2008 4:21 PM (#444633 - in reply to #407590)
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about the strength of the mounts buddy 1 inch of weld should hold a pulling force of 1 tonne as long as you clean off the weld area you will be fine.

id be welding an inch missing 3inch waiting till it cools then repeat.

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Posted 29/8/2008 1:09 AM (#444809 - in reply to #407590)
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i wouldnt worry too much about the heat as its only mig. id also weld all round the turret.

that last pic, shows the rear engine mount, you going to put a plate across the bottom of that? seems a bit flimsy atm.

Drew

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Posted 29/8/2008 2:27 PM (#445013 - in reply to #407590)
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hadnt planned on putting any more in the engine mount, it has a small triangle on the top and is welded to the frame across the back now.

the frame didnt get that hot, more weld the better! rover defiantly had money in mind alot more than stiffness when they where manufacturing subframes for the metro i would think.

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Posted 31/8/2008 11:57 AM (#445380 - in reply to #407590)
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finished all the welding on the subframe, just need top get it blasted/painted.

clutch slave cylinder mounted.

cut out a flywheel cover as the bottom of its exposed on the engine side, bit over kill, spacer bit made of 15mm ali, and a cover panel from 3mm ali, but is light an easiest way of doing it, will get them TIGed together even tho the bolts will hold it all.

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Posted 31/8/2008 12:23 PM (#445401 - in reply to #407590)
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Posted 31/8/2008 12:27 PM (#445404 - in reply to #407590)
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Just had my first look at this Ralph you are doing a great job, i wish i had the know how to do even half the stuff you have done!!!

Nice 1 m8

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Posted 31/8/2008 3:02 PM (#445486 - in reply to #407590)
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cheers pandy!

Tanko&Craig - 31/8/2008 6:27 PM

Just had my first look at this Ralph you are doing a great job, i wish i had the know how to do even half the stuff you have done!!!

Nice 1 m8

well you know what can i say? lol, its gone pretty well so far, just tryign to do everything properly.

Ralph

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Posted 31/8/2008 3:24 PM (#445495 - in reply to #407590)
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GO ON MY SON!

DOOO IT!

Your the man ralph! I might need your watercutting services sometime

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Posted 1/9/2008 2:57 AM (#445622 - in reply to #407590)
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Nice one Ralph, looking good!
Keep us updated, im dying to see it in the metro.

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Posted 8/9/2008 3:06 PM (#447622 - in reply to #407590)
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this has been quiet but i have still been busy.

subframe painted along with a few brackets.

looked att he old gearbox i tock off, an thought, ow nice clutch release bearing....... bollocks that should be in my engine/box! so will have gearbox back of tomoz. and should eb puttign engine an box back in to newly painted subframe.

new top arm repair kit fitted to one side.

Ralph

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Posted 8/9/2008 3:41 PM (#447630 - in reply to #407590)
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steady progress ralph! get it done my son!

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Posted 9/9/2008 2:20 PM (#447914 - in reply to #407590)
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- i like sayin that!

CANT WAIT for this to be finished....im comin down for a go

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Posted 9/9/2008 6:50 PM (#448033 - in reply to #407590)
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how you gunna do the interior fully stripped or you going to try n make it look relatively normal for the sleeper effect ?

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Posted 10/9/2008 2:01 AM (#448039 - in reply to #407590)
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cheers people

sleeper, will have carpeted panel extending the parcel shelf and down to the floor.

got engine back in the nice newly painted subframe an most of the suspension back on last night. will put up pics later or tomoz.

Ralph

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Posted 10/9/2008 3:17 AM (#448045 - in reply to #448039)
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ralphh85 - 10/9/2008 8:01 AM

cheers people

Wont the rear track be wider than standard (ala Talon RWD car?) Might make it difficult to have the sleeper look!

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Posted 10/9/2008 5:11 AM (#448073 - in reply to #448045)
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cheers people

Wont the rear track be wider than standard (ala Talon RWD car?) Might make it difficult to have the sleeper look!

i would have said so, the front of a metro is wider than the rear...

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Posted 10/9/2008 5:59 AM (#448083 - in reply to #448073)
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cheers people

Wont the rear track be wider than standard (ala Talon RWD car?) Might make it difficult to have the sleeper look!

i would have said so, the front of a metro is wider than the rear...

yes it will be wider, about 1 inch either side, should fit under std arches just. talons was more but they had wider wheels with less offset.

Ralph

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Posted 10/9/2008 3:33 AM (#448046 - in reply to #407590)
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i doubt it, should be std Metro front width with the parts used..

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Posted 10/9/2008 3:36 PM (#448267 - in reply to #407590)
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couple photos tonight, got wheels back on and it up int he air.

todo list is

drive shafts in,
exhaust on,
coilovers on,
sort altinator.

then i got a compleat an sorted lump!

Ralph

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Posted 10/9/2008 4:36 PM (#448292 - in reply to #407590)
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Awesome

Wont that fit in the front? twin engined?

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Posted 10/9/2008 4:55 PM (#448297 - in reply to #407590)
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excellent work almost there

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Posted 11/9/2008 3:29 AM (#448355 - in reply to #407590)
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i think twin engines is a silly idea, enless they are linked at the crank like people do with bike engines.

half the point of a V8 it has enough capacity in one engine block!

getting there slowly.

Ralph

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Posted 12/9/2008 1:21 PM (#448884 - in reply to #407590)
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phase 2 is almost compleate (working lump ready for car).

RHS drive shaft all lubed up an inplace, coilover fitted and sitting on its down leg

just got the other side now, and altinator which i still aint tracked the best one for it!

also bought a new doner car which i will be using the shell of, weather i use its identity or my current car i dont know, they are both clubman L's so it dont really make much differnce, pics of car will follow this weekend when i bring it back.

Ralph

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Posted 12/9/2008 1:25 PM (#448887 - in reply to #407590)
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that is looking excellent

when you building one for me ??

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Posted 12/9/2008 1:29 PM (#448890 - in reply to #448887)
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muzza - 12/9/2008 7:25 PM

that is looking excellent

when you building one for me ??

look nicer with some 4 pots! which i eventually hope to fit. (tho 2 pot ont he rear i expect).

hands off i got to build this one first lol.

Ralph

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Posted 12/9/2008 1:35 PM (#448897 - in reply to #407590)
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Goddamit ralph you do make me smile!

That really is looking awesome! very interested to see how you get it in the car

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Posted 12/9/2008 2:12 PM (#448915 - in reply to #407590)
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Your a bloody nutter ralph - just make sure it sticks to the road & NO CAMACS under any circumstances

This RWD is asume?

Can't get the scanner to work so cant scan the Street Machine article I have.. but the spec of this little rocket (Dave Giles 'Micro Pro' drag metro)

327ci Corvette small block
50thou overbore
TRW comp pistons
Elderbrock Torker II manifold
750 v/s holley on top

Holley race pump
2.3 Sierra Rad
Side exit exhaust (through sill)
Bonnet, wings & front panels replaced with post '88 ones (smoother)
Volvo 343 rear arches

Theres no power figures or times.. but I'm guessing pretty damn fast

ralphh85

Posted 12/9/2008 4:21 PM (#448957 - in reply to #407590)
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yeah RWD an mid engine, you say about carmacs like they are a bad thing, on a normal tro maybe but i thinkt hey may find a place on my rear wheels! will see how it all works first.

fitting it int he car shouldnt be to hard. thats phase 3!

sounds good mutts, very different to what im trying to achive, im tryign to keep it standard looking onthe outside for as long as possable.

gonna fully respray the car to so should look nice.

Ralph

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Posted 12/9/2008 6:55 PM (#449019 - in reply to #407590)
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the whole build so far is looking pretty impressive Ralph

hats off to you

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Posted 14/9/2008 5:48 AM (#449279 - in reply to #407590)
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since the lump is almost ready to find its way in to a metro i have bought a new metro, since mines modified an many ways which it now no longer needs and is also tad rusty under neith im gonna re shell mine with this one.

looks slightly tatty on the outside, buts never been welded ever, and has no holes in the floor what so ever. only rust is few places where its got surface rust ont he body work, and the scuttle panel is a bit holey.

its an automatic

but wont be for long! will fit my gti seats/dash/k series front subframe, my doors cause mien are almost mint, an gonna give it a full respray so its nice an white!

dont like the red stripe, started taking it off already!

will probably take the identity of my original car.

Ralph

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Posted 19/9/2008 3:11 PM (#450854 - in reply to #407590)
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had load of logistics with moving round cars and engines an stuff to make room so not much action to photo lately but.......

engine/subframe is on both legs, the short drive shafts is like the shortest drive shaft ever! i think it probly made it 10mm to short, but its fine, when i order new ones i will make it tad longer, an i thinkt he other could be a tad shorter.

current out standign tasks till its a complete lump is...

alternator mounting bracket (using mgf altinator) and maybe convert to flat belt rather than the inefficient V belt!
finish exhaust down pipe bit

Ralph

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Posted 19/9/2008 4:12 PM (#450872 - in reply to #407590)
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That looks damn nice! canne wait to see that fitted in the back of the 'tro!

Also, reply to my pm boyo!

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Posted 19/9/2008 5:44 PM (#450879 - in reply to #407590)
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hi everyone, long time no posting but here i am,

THIS IS FOOKIN AWESOME!!!!

good work mate it should be cool

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Posted 21/9/2008 8:15 PM (#451338 - in reply to #407590)
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oh my...

i started reading this post half an hour ago, from start to finish, been a good read!!

i am absolutely LOVING the look of this car man, it looks like it is going to be absolutely brilliant!!

you planning to keep it as a day to day car, or you guna keep it for special occasions, or what??

i hope you get the engine in the car soon, i cannot wait to see it all finished up!

you must have spent so much time doing all this work, looks like it is paying off though as you got a damn fine machine coming from it.

ralphh85

Posted 22/9/2008 3:15 PM (#451522 - in reply to #407590)
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thanks for the good comments people

to answer a few questions, it will be my daily driver, i dont plan on doing anything to it to make it un road useable, so keeping interior more or less standard just with the gti seats/door cards, an of course the carPC! the coilovers dont make it uncomfortable, and if your driving fast they probably make it smoother. and im only goign to be upgrading the cam to a mild ish cam as im only looking for 210ish bhp initially. with the torque it should be a very drivable car.

plus half the point of having a fast car an putting all this effort in is so i get to use it lol, i dont wanna get burned off on the way to work in a shit slow car when i got this at home! and obviously i wont be late to work so often!

progress...........

i have got more exhaust done, tomorrow if by the week end it should have an exhaust poking out the back of the subframe, and hopefully have alternator sorted, which means it will be time to get the car in the garage and start stripping that! then it will look like i am actually building a V8 metro, not just playing with an engine int he garage!

Ralph

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Posted 24/9/2008 5:42 AM (#451920 - in reply to #407590)
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Ralph, you're cool!

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Posted 24/9/2008 3:55 PM (#452093 - in reply to #407590)
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more pics of the progress i have been talking about!

drew up some profiles in cad an magic'ed them in to stainless steel. welded them togeather an sorted.... one fully working alternator, just need a sleeve to hold the bottom bolt which you may be able to pick out which holds the tensioning device.

exhaust getting ever so much closer, you can see where the right hand pipe is aiming an you can see what it will join, they all join just out of view in to a 2.5 inch 90 bend which shoots off under the axle hump in the sump and under the engine. looks like it was ment to be!

Ralph

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Posted 24/9/2008 4:10 PM (#452103 - in reply to #407590)
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*Grins with anticipation*

Keep it up lad.
Im watching with baited breath

ralphh85

Posted 25/9/2008 5:57 PM (#452406 - in reply to #407590)
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keep watchign more is coming!

got final bit of the exhaust manifold system tacked in place. just need to fully weld it then im ready to fit the flexy and get the pipe goign out which will go in to the back box.

also alternator fully bolted on an belt tensioned.

i actually lathed up the bottom alternator bush myself! used our colchester student lathe in anger for the first time, aint used one for about 5 years since college!

Ralph

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Posted 25/9/2008 7:20 PM (#452414 - in reply to #407590)
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drive it like its hired

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nice job!
have you tried turning the engine with the stater yet?

ralphh85

Posted 26/9/2008 2:56 AM (#452428 - in reply to #452414)
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petrol_head - 26/9/2008 1:20 AM

nice job!
have you tried turning the engine with the stater yet?

yeah an it works lol, one of the first things i did once had the engine an box together, turns over a beauty, V8 shouldnt be any harder to turn than a higher compression t series 2.0.

theres also high power reduction starters available for the elise.

Ralph

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Posted 26/9/2008 5:42 PM (#452652 - in reply to #407590)
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exhaust done till under the engine, just need to fit the flexy, and then bring it tot he back where it will have a flange which meets the back box.

alternator fitted an all sorted.

hopefully get car in garage this weekend and start pulling that appart!

Ralph

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Posted 28/9/2008 2:10 PM (#453022 - in reply to #407590)
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after a real busy weekend i striped all of the back interior out of the car, got it in the garage (after long last), got rid off allt he interior i no longer need to mates place an tock some parts back off my other clubman which will be needed.

next up job will be taking the engine out of this one.

A series bits all forsale.

Ralph

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Posted 28/9/2008 3:00 PM (#453027 - in reply to #407590)
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Posted 29/9/2008 10:19 AM (#453197 - in reply to #453027)
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robster - 28/9/2008 9:00 PM

Please give me a shout when I can run a list by you of bits I will need

every thign has its price i guess

jacobs53 - 29/9/2008 3:16 PM

Ralph I been watching this project with alot of interest.

Just out of curiosity would that engine and subframe fit in the front of a K series shell, without too much modification?? I know its pointless with so much power, but that would make an absolute awesome sleeper!!

Anyway, your work and progress is top notch!!! Well done!

i would say yes it would be possable. however i would also do things different to how i did in a few places, you would want to make the engine shorter to give better steering lock asit would be limited here by the wheel hitting the engine/box.

anything possable, someone do it!

once again thanks for the comments

Ralph

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Posted 29/9/2008 9:16 AM (#453187 - in reply to #407590)
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Ralph I been watching this project with alot of interest.

Just out of curiosity would that engine and subframe fit in the front of a K series shell, without too much modification?? I know its pointless with so much power, but that would make an absolute awesome sleeper!!

Anyway, your work and progress is top notch!!! Well done!

ralphh85

Posted 29/9/2008 2:55 PM (#453278 - in reply to #407590)
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lots of bits off (and in the forsale section).

tock less than 2 hours to remove head/manifolds/carb/dizzy/battery/rad, got to love the A series engines simplicity. dont think the V8 will be that easy, but then nor is it 60bhp an an automatic lol.

should have engine out either this week or at the week end whenever i can get help lifting it.

Ralph

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Posted 30/9/2008 2:30 AM (#453429 - in reply to #407590)
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you thought about some kind of brace or hanger for the system as it goes over the gearbox?

Drew

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Posted 30/9/2008 2:54 AM (#453436 - in reply to #453429)
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Roverdose - 30/9/2008 8:30 AM

you thought about some kind of brace or hanger for the system as it goes over the gearbox?

Drew

yeah an no, the suspension upright bits are definatly braced to the front of the subframe for a reason, however im probly going to have a fair size section going right up an over, i will bolt this to the top of the coilover mount somewhere, which should give even more strength.

on the series frame there is very little holding the back of the sumframe to the lower part, so it will need something definatly.

you must have a keep eye!

Ralph

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Posted 1/10/2008 3:42 PM (#454126 - in reply to #407590)
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how clean is it under the car?? first and 2nd where the onyl places i thought where rust, i think the second is but the first is not.

something has been letting water in to the foot well which aint so good but its still one of the cleanest ones i have had! despite being tad tatty on top. an onyl costing 110!

Ralph

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Posted 1/10/2008 3:42 PM (#454127 - in reply to #407590)
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how clean is it under the car?? first and 2nd where the only places i thought where rust, i think the second is but the first is not.

something has been letting water in to the foot well which aint so good but its still one of the cleanest ones i have had! despite being tad tatty on top. an onyl costing 110!

Ralph

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Posted 5/10/2008 1:03 PM (#455149 - in reply to #407590)
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getting more exciting, got engine out, needed to turn the car around to work on the back, removing subframe, however couldnt open garage door as there was a car inthe way, so with no engine 3 of us lifted the car round on the spot, one end at a time. just wish it would be that light when it was finished!

lifted the A series out with 2 of us on a bar and one moving the engine. f**king heavy lump!

next mission is to cut the boot floor out as necessary and drop the car overt he engine/subframe, then work out what work needs doing to join them together.

considering fitting an electric waterpump as the current one is unnecessarily big, and also would give future option of removing the thermostat and having an electric controller to vary the pump speed.

Ralph

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Posted 5/10/2008 2:41 PM (#455183 - in reply to #407590)
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This is really looking great ralph, you must be pumpin a fair bit of bar into this

what power/ torque figures does the v8 push out

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Posted 6/10/2008 3:29 AM (#455371 - in reply to #455183)
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Snoopy16 - 5/10/2008 8:41 PM

This is really looking great ralph, you must be pumpin a fair bit of bar into this

what power/ torque figures does the v8 push out

it aint cost much but very time consuming, but thats what i want! probly cost just shy of a grand so far, suspension/brakes/clutch took up £500! i sold few bits of the car and it only owes me £20 now.

the V8 std as expected from a range rover isnt great, its 165 bhp, and 206 foot pounds. other varients like in the SD1 vittesse where 190bhp and 220 foot pounds, i will build an engine which should be more powerful than that, i hope for 210-220 bhp and foot pounds from it. but then obviously being a v8 has potential of any where up to 380bhp an 5.3L. but that would cost alot and probly blow up the PG1! and i would be better off fitting a different one like the jag v8 for thoes powers.

Ralph

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Posted 6/10/2008 2:51 PM (#455601 - in reply to #455371)
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It'll certainly get along quite nicely, even with 'just' 210bhp

FYI Ralph, a local club member over here built his own MGB V8 (3.9l ex Rangie), modified the engine himself, built all his own manifolds, injection setup, carbon airbox etc etc, on a shoe string budget in much the same vein you're going with your project, and ended up with ~360bhp at the rear wheels. Fair to say, it used to fly.

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Posted 6/10/2008 3:04 PM (#455616 - in reply to #407590)
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heads are the weak point on the V8, which is why the 3.9 doesn't make much more than the 3.5 in std forum, but does have alot more torque.

i want to stick with 3.5 as they rev better apparently.

as said it will fly anyway with a bit of work, tho i plan on putting after market management/cams probly ported heads, so should see nice amount of power.

got to get it int he car before i start thinking of that to much!

Ralph

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Posted 6/10/2008 3:12 PM (#455622 - in reply to #407590)
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this looks amazing. cant wait to see this car going.
now with out this forum would u be building this? or would it be 100 times harder?
to me this is what the forum is at its best!

ralphh85

Posted 6/10/2008 3:23 PM (#455633 - in reply to #407590)
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MP has helped fair bit, some very clued up help come from here.

tho it was my mate considering V8ing his elise which made me seriously think about it, already having put mgf box in the front.

im sure it would have happened MP or no MP but i do humbly thanks the people who have put in input, even if it be moral support

Ralph

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Posted 6/10/2008 4:18 PM (#455664 - in reply to #407590)
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How did you work out what damping rating you needed for the coilovers as i am looking to convert the rear of mine to coilovers.

there must be a general rule of thumb? ie what length, damping rating, piston rod size etc. i am v

so please forgive me if i am being stupid.

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Posted 6/10/2008 5:08 PM (#455705 - in reply to #455664)
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Jordysport - 6/10/2008 10:18 PM

How did you work out what damping rating you needed for the coilovers as i am looking to convert the rear of mine to coilovers.

there must be a general rule of thumb? ie what length, damping rating, piston rod size etc. i am v

so please forgive me if i am being stupid.

damping is adjustable, so no working out required. spring rate does need to be calculated if done properly. however i just guessed lol. will see how well it works and change tham if nessesary.

damper length is obvious as its the length of travel on the arm.

my frotn ones worked great so think these will be ok.

Ralph

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Posted 12/10/2008 2:55 PM (#457370 - in reply to #407590)
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as far as my car goes, had a crap weekend, spent about 2 hours working on it!

however another step closer, got a hole in the floor. hacked it out with grinder leaving a bit of spare then trimmed it back with more care.

then spent a while looking at it an working out where the strengths of it where, and how i would put the strength back in. think i sused it all.

also got my crank pulley bolted back on, as i am now using an electric water pump, so have moved the pulley further in as it does not have to line up with the mechanical pump, saving a precious inch! will be making up a new alternator bracket to mount that further in to.

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Posted 12/10/2008 4:18 PM (#457400 - in reply to #407590)
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now that's a big hole

it's hard to imagine that you are going to fit the v8 engine into the metro

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Posted 13/10/2008 4:08 PM (#457645 - in reply to #407590)
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some more stuff.

the electric waterpump, looks really good quality, im impressed, comes with relay an fuse holder an proper connector s can be dissconected.

also thats part of the water pump, which i will cut that pipe up an get it welded on so i have just a pipe goign in, without the old mechanical water pump.

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Posted 14/10/2008 1:04 AM (#457743 - in reply to #407590)
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there's a bit of strength just as the floor comes up to go under the rear seats. plus the original rear frame mounting points.

not sure about the rear, just behind the arch might be the most metal but will need some bracing.

Drew

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Posted 14/10/2008 3:14 AM (#457748 - in reply to #407590)
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the main thing they seemed to have used is the inner arch, just infront of the center point of the wheels there was a formed box section bit spanning from one arch to the other, this is there the subframe sat under and load would have been distributed up through the inner arch and then in to the rest of the body.

as you say at the front just before it drops down to floor level, although the floor isnt very string the bit coming up has some stiffness to it, but better is that if i run a section all the was accross i can meet each sill on the ends, then i can bolt subframe mounts to the section and the std rear subframe mounting points.

getting it mounted will be fairly easy, the harder bit will be doing it so there isnt any loss of strength an ideally stiffer than it was before.

ralphh85

Posted 15/10/2008 4:31 PM (#458299 - in reply to #407590)
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new alternator bracket made up, just needs some further reinforcements i think. and cut up the pipe to more or less fit the water in. hopefully get it welded int he next few days.

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Posted 16/10/2008 4:55 PM (#458538 - in reply to #407590)
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progress which actually looks like progress! pictures speeck for themselfs, i lifted it by myself while my bro slid stuff under to support it, and we zip tied the jacks to the jackign points to stop them becoming dis located.

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Posted 16/10/2008 5:01 PM (#458541 - in reply to #407590)
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Thats the progress we are looking for ralph. Now just hurry up and get it finished lol.

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Posted 16/10/2008 5:04 PM (#458544 - in reply to #407590)
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is definatly starting to look like a v8 metro now, bet you cant wait to drive it after all the work.

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Posted 16/10/2008 5:20 PM (#458550 - in reply to #458544)
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to be honest i thought there would have been alot less room in the car with the engine fitted but i was sooo wrong. very pleased it's in

how long b4 its up and running ???

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Posted 16/10/2008 6:09 PM (#458560 - in reply to #407590)
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drive it like its hired

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good progress ralph. simple, cost effective and intelligent engineering there, love it

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Posted 17/10/2008 2:42 AM (#458579 - in reply to #407590)
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looking good mate cant wait to see it finished

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Posted 17/10/2008 2:46 AM (#458580 - in reply to #407590)
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when it will be ready is the killer question, i dont really know but maybe a month?

it doesnt show it there but theres still about a foot of boot space, so plenty for the shopping, theres also room behind front seats.

also theres mass's of room over the top of the gearbox, so battery tray/airbox will go there i expect.

everyone i speak to about it in persona n people who see the engine say "ahh you will never get that in a metro they are massive engines, but they aint at all, they are very compact lumps an nice an light to for what they are.

Plenty of room

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Posted 17/10/2008 4:05 AM (#458595 - in reply to #407590)
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Awww f**k yeah ralph.

This is what I was waiting for... I just did a small wee

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Posted 17/10/2008 4:47 AM (#458601 - in reply to #407590)
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looking fantastic pal! can't wait to see it go!

so are you planning to get this fully road legal or is it a track weapon?

also any idea just how much the engine weighs?

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Posted 17/10/2008 4:58 AM (#458604 - in reply to #407590)
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road legal, its gonna be my daily run around/sleeper. should look std on the outside.

the rover v8 is 165kg, heavier than the original buick one which was 145, rover made it stronger an fixed some of the problems buick where having.

with the gearbox this makes it about 200kg, the a series engine+box are 155kg, so its only about 45kg in it!

im not sure if the state of the engines at that weight, and what ancileries they have on them, but my engines very minimal anyway, no power steering/air con/water pump, only 1 belt, less tensioners, smaller altinator, much lighter exhaust manifolds, so shoudlnt be very heavy.

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Posted 17/10/2008 10:57 AM (#458664 - in reply to #458604)
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road legal, its gonna be my daily run around/sleeper. should look std on the outside.

*mr. burns voice* eeeexcellent!

that will make one hell of a sleeper, not just the speed will surprise people, anybody who knows anything about cars knows the sound of a v8, should be some funny looks at the traffic lights!

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Posted 17/10/2008 5:34 AM (#458612 - in reply to #407590)
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Before you mount the battery/washer bottle, do a corner wieght
test, you may be better off mounting the batt in the front, you
dont want too much wieght in the back, and also allow for fuel
corner wieght bias when the tank is full and empty.

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Dave VVC - 17/10/2008 11:34 AM

Before you mount the battery/washer bottle, do a corner wieght
test, you may be better off mounting the batt in the front, you
dont want too much wieght in the back, and also allow for fuel
corner wieght bias when the tank is full and empty.

was planning on mounting the battery above the gearbox, washer staying std in the front, and fuel tank in the front, but if i think of a better place i will change them.

at work we have just bought a set of weighing beems (2 flat things you put on the floor) and weight up to 1 tonne, in 0.2kg incriments, might be able to use them, but would have to weight it 1 wheel at a time? enless theres a better way?

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Posted 17/10/2008 12:21 PM (#458690 - in reply to #407590)
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Can I book a passenger ride in advance?

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Posted 17/10/2008 12:27 PM (#458693 - in reply to #407590)
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yes but you will have to find ya way down far south west lol. next exeter meet maybe!

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Posted 17/10/2008 1:55 PM (#458732 - in reply to #407590)
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Posted 18/10/2008 5:05 PM (#458949 - in reply to #407590)
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yeah should make it to next years MGM no problem.

not much progress, engine an subframe back out so i can neatly cut the body work away now that i know where to finish the edge to. and also start welding some of the extra strength back in.

got my water in pipe welded up, shes a beauty, wish i could weld like it! now given it to another friend to have it ground/milled dead flat accross where the weld has been built up to give me the extra gasket area.

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Posted 19/10/2008 5:29 AM (#458999 - in reply to #407590)
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are you going to fit a roll cage? might be a good idea to put some rigity back into the chassis

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Posted 19/10/2008 1:06 PM (#459050 - in reply to #407590)
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What are you planning for a bulkhead? (are they a legal necessity for the road or is that just a wive's tale?) Have you still got room to fit a van one in there as a basis to add a top to or are you going scratch build it?

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Posted 19/10/2008 3:40 PM (#459094 - in reply to #407590)
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not planning on fitting a roll cage, should be fine as long as i stiffen the back up, also its a road car not a track car so i aint to worried.

bulkhead wise the hole engine will be covered over with ali composite panels, i think it would be rather smelly, noisy and hot with out!

Ralph

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Posted 25/10/2008 9:43 AM (#460473 - in reply to #407590)
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alof of pictures for very little bbbbuuuuttttttt.

water in pipe sorted, just need to sort gasket for it...

nice to see the old pump all gone, bit less crap i dont need. the belzona stuff is fantastic, mate borrowed me some from his work, 60 a pop, so glad i didnt need to pay lol.

ow an first pic is where my friend milled the weld off to give me a gasket surface, and also skimmed the rest dead flat as t had slightly warped after being welded.

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Posted 11/11/2008 4:56 AM (#464720 - in reply to #407590)
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Anything to report Ralph??

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Posted 11/11/2008 6:01 AM (#464729 - in reply to #464720)
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Anything to report Ralph??

ok il update!

been hard at work on it, tho not massive amount to show like that, got some bits welded to the car an have the rear subframe bolted in at the front, just need to get the rear sorted, an make up some solid subframe mounts, an it will be sitting on its own legs again.

i will give a better update an upload some pics later on if i get a chance. have been slacking on my journal!

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Posted 11/11/2008 9:01 AM (#464779 - in reply to #407590)
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yeah ive had a keen eye out for news on this... good to see an update!

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Posted 11/11/2008 1:50 PM (#464841 - in reply to #407590)
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ok didnt take any of engine bolted to car but will tomoz or when i get the rear mounts sorted as well.

heres pic off the first of a few gaskets i cut out for the water in pipe, water jet once again come in bloody handy!

and of a set of solid subframe mounts which i made up. will be welded up as they are, then i will weld a bit of pipe over the center sot hey look more like the normal ones. just need to drill the holes out from 8mm to 14mm for the center bolts.

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Posted 11/11/2008 1:55 PM (#464842 - in reply to #407590)
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Those mounts look fookin HENCH!

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Posted 11/11/2008 1:59 PM (#464843 - in reply to #464842)
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FreddieS - 11/11/2008 7:55 PM

Those mounts look fookin HENCH!

stainless steel, these babys aint gonna rust lol. an with a bit of pipe welded over will look even better!

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Posted 11/11/2008 2:09 PM (#464847 - in reply to #407590)
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The mounts look MEGGA!

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Posted 16/11/2008 3:53 PM (#465936 - in reply to #407590)
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again theres little to photo cause all i been doing is mounts.

the front ones are done, and i cut out all the profiles today for the rear mounts, got 1 tacked together an it looks ok, so will be makign the other up tomorrow an bolting them on.

then it will be on all 4 legs again!

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Posted 16/11/2008 5:40 PM (#465978 - in reply to #407590)
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get it done! getting closer to completion..... cant wait to see it

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Posted 16/11/2008 6:03 PM (#465985 - in reply to #407590)
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but tell me. why do you bring the exhaust down in front of the car istead of having them exit backwards 6r4 style?

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Posted 17/11/2008 3:59 AM (#466019 - in reply to #465985)
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DotMatrix - 17/11/2008 12:03 AM

but tell me. why do you bring the exhaust down in front of the car instead of having them exit backwards 6r4 style?

mostly space issues, trying to keep the boot space, and keep it quiet ish. this way i can have just one box going across the back. also it will be a single exit in the standard place.

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Posted 17/11/2008 12:08 PM (#466079 - in reply to #407590)
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Posted 17/11/2008 5:53 PM (#466227 - in reply to #407590)
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Loving this build ralph, Keep up the good work

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Posted 18/11/2008 5:42 AM (#466269 - in reply to #407590)
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love it mate honestley one of the best reads/journal in a long time for me anyway

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Posted 18/11/2008 6:56 AM (#466290 - in reply to #407590)
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Its Looking good ralph

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Posted 18/11/2008 2:49 PM (#466416 - in reply to #407590)
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The subframe mounts look neat, but must have taken ages.

I went down the much lazier route of just trimming the rubber back on the original ones and welding a disc (effectively a washer about M20 size) to the inner tube and outer to bridge between them. That way if the weld gives up the rubber part is still in there. Still using them after 12 seasons racing.

Al

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Posted 19/11/2008 7:23 PM (#466726 - in reply to #407590)
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I gotta say mate, its very rare (and there's no insult intended to anyone on here, because there are some pure f**king sins on my car)
to see a (re)build being made so comprehensively, every time I look back on this I'm just more astounded than the last time.
I mean sure youve got total access to some awesome tools, but I have to keep giving you kudos.
But f**k dude, Stainless subby mounts!?!?!?!
Next you'll be tearing it all down to galvanise the shell!
(Im aware I look like a total kiss-arse here, but it just had to be said)

Just one querey...
Are you going down the road of "I dont value my ear-drums THAT much" or are you plating the engine away?

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Posted 20/11/2008 7:33 AM (#466788 - in reply to #407590)
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cheers for the comments guys

nice to know im not putting effort in for nothing! hopefully the hard work an 100% attention to detail will pay off in the end.

been a bit slack over last few days but its almost on its legs again, should be tonight all things being equal.

i will update with pics later if i get a chance, hopefully sitting with no jacks under it!

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Posted 20/11/2008 8:26 AM (#466798 - in reply to #407590)
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Thats what we like to hear

Keep it up Ralph

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Posted 20/11/2008 10:40 AM (#466815 - in reply to #407590)
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Posted 20/11/2008 1:40 PM (#466878 - in reply to #466815)
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Taylor - 21/11/2008 3:40 AM

Favourite project on MP (asides my own, of course

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Posted 20/11/2008 4:08 PM (#466955 - in reply to #407590)
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thanks again for the great comments, tho there are loads of projects i seen on here which are great and pretty different.

anyway......... progress report, it has 4 legs back

rear mounting points partly welded in place, and the car is sitting on them, the jacks are still there but clear the floor as they are zip tied to the car. but i can bounce on it for once rather than it being propped up like a 3 legged donkey.

next up will be to weld in few more bits of box section to strengthen the car and also mount the boards to, as asked earlier by jecks i think no i dont like to much noise or heat so im walling it off with an few thin ali sheets stuck either side of a foam core.

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Posted 20/11/2008 4:41 PM (#466978 - in reply to #466955)
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ralphh85 - 21/11/2008 9:08 AM

thanks again for the great comments, tho there are loads of projects i seen on here which are great and pretty different.

Yes, but yours is very much to my way of thinking - serious conversion, home built to a high standard and most importantly RWD

Definitely going to have to come and check it out when we're over next year

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Posted 20/11/2008 4:12 PM (#466959 - in reply to #407590)
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Wouldnt you be better off making an engine cover like in the clio v6 rather than walling it off? More interior space and generally just nicer

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Posted 20/11/2008 4:28 PM (#466972 - in reply to #407590)
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what does the clio V6 have? i herd they get quite hot tho (maybe in here), i recon i can hold pretty much all the heat out of the seating area with some good panels an if i heat wrap exhaust and water pipes which are under the bay. probly also have a fan in it somewhere.

Ralph

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Posted 20/11/2008 5:10 PM (#466995 - in reply to #466972)
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Coming on realy well bud!!

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Posted 20/11/2008 4:35 PM (#466977 - in reply to #407590)
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So hot they set on fire infact lmao

Think its a 70s supercar kind of cover that goes over the top to tidy it up

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Posted 20/11/2008 4:52 PM (#466986 - in reply to #407590)
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Posted 20/11/2008 5:13 PM (#466998 - in reply to #407590)
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Im suprised as to how low the v8 is, keep forgetting its a v of low slung awesomness!

Looks like its going to be seriously awesome

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Posted 28/11/2008 12:20 PM (#469037 - in reply to #407590)
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thanks again for the comments,

just run out of bloody welding gas to got to get some of that now!

got the bars you can see tacked to the car, the one which goes across from each B piller is bolt in, and so will the one running across the back, so if i ever need good access to change anything it shouldn't be to hard.

then will just make up some panels to fill in top front and back to keep heat and sound where its supposed to be.

will be working on the front soon, fitting k series frame with petrol tank.

Ralph

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Posted 28/11/2008 4:17 PM (#469083 - in reply to #407590)
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Glad you decided to go for a setup like that Ralph.. will look mint

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Posted 28/11/2008 4:29 PM (#469085 - in reply to #407590)
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Going to have a minuture boot?

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Posted 28/11/2008 6:19 PM (#469107 - in reply to #469085)
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FreddieS - 28/11/2008 10:29 PM

Going to have a minuture boot?

Clio V6 stylieeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

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Posted 29/11/2008 3:27 AM (#469119 - in reply to #469107)
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FreddieS - 28/11/2008 10:29 PM

Going to have a minuture boot?

Clio V6 stylieeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

No, METRO V8 STYLEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!

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Posted 29/11/2008 5:44 AM (#469128 - in reply to #469085)
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Going to have a minuture boot?

its about a foot deep, about as big as a new mini boot lol will also have space behind seats for luggage tho.

but dont worry, it will probly take 3 creats of beer an i think thats why cars have boots?

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Posted 6/12/2008 6:16 AM (#470873 - in reply to #469128)
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i still can't help feeling, your going to have loads of problems getting rid of the heat in there. i know your looking to have it stealth, but you need somewhere for air to flow around the engine and out the back of the car. soley relying upon it going under the car is a bad move. have you thought about running two box channel sections down each side of the rear using the bit you've got going around the inner archs as the start point. run it from there down to under the bumper and then in the rear valance put exit slots - you need airflow and as far as i can see you don't really have any at the mo.

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Posted 29/11/2008 10:51 AM (#469146 - in reply to #407590)
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Perspex rear windows with air intakes like Z-cars??

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Posted 30/11/2008 5:39 PM (#469468 - in reply to #407590)
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just read this from start to now and i must say you sir are a f***ing loon.

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Posted 2/12/2008 10:00 PM (#470104 - in reply to #407590)
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So how are you going to keep this beast cool then?
Are you going down the path of a ducted roof/quarter pannels + fan or really long coolant hoses from the front?

Then theres hot air escape...
You could always channel a duct upwards from floor level into the path of the rad?
Are you venting the hatch-door somehow? Just to assist that hot air away from the car?
Subtle venting mind... cheeky louvres anyone? You could even hide vents behind the number plates and spacer the plates away from the body by 1/2 an inch, back it up with fan assistance?
Or fabricate a duct the size of the engine box-housing, whack in two fans from scrapped cars with big rads and duct it down to valance level?

Am I over thinking this???

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Posted 3/12/2008 1:56 AM (#470106 - in reply to #407590)
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Or have the floor open and have it coming out the wheel arches. done.

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Posted 3/12/2008 3:38 AM (#470119 - in reply to #407590)
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i have been pondering this for a while an no i dont think your over thinking jeck's.

engine cooling if fine i will run pipes to front like the mgf/elise does but the engine bay cooling is what im thinking of.

the hole bottom of the engine bay is open but it does still have most of the inner arches, i dont really know how much of a problem its gonna be, best thing would be to keep it cooled by the air coming past but maybe have a fan on the air temp, but i dont know how i would do that.

i DONT want any roof scoops or exterior vents other than under the car maybe but then you have to be carefull not to scoop up water.

Ralph

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Posted 3/12/2008 4:41 AM (#470126 - in reply to #407590)
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MGF has a much smaller engine with no boot floor and also 2 side scoopes and a vent directly above the engine, also has a fan that comes on with engine temp which I beleive has a temperature sensor in the bay so you could use that type of sensor to run a fan but where would the air be coming from/going to?

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Posted 3/12/2008 4:50 AM (#470129 - in reply to #407590)
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im sure dave on here said once that the mgf vents dont do anything cause they are in negetive air presure zones or something. also isnt the left hand one just for the induction? i have no floor bellow the engine.

either way of i fit a fan i will duct air in from the ground just in front of the gearbox as theres a big hole there which is soutable.

the engine its self will have plenty of cooling through the Rad, and im going to heat wrap everything so i dont think its gonna be a massive problem, till i test it im just not going to know.

Ralph

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Posted 4/12/2008 7:56 AM (#470478 - in reply to #407590)
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Left and one is for induction, right hand one has the fan in it I think and the ones above blast out masses of heat, I warmed up some sausages on them when me and the missus had a picnic.

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Posted 5/12/2008 2:42 PM (#470782 - in reply to #470478)
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before i use real materials to make the panels to cover the engine bay (wont be done till car is almost ready anyway) i cut out some hard board ones to make sure my measurements where accurate.

this is what it looks like with covers on it.....

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Posted 6/12/2008 9:24 AM (#470925 - in reply to #407590)
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Looks great Ralph, but as Jason said, wouldnt it be better to get more air into/out of the "box"?

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Posted 6/12/2008 4:20 PM (#471047 - in reply to #407590)
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was talkign to mate who has an elise an i agree with what he said, basically engine bay temps dotn cause a massive problem in them selfs although not ideal, as logn as the engine has sufficient cooling fromt he rad, which it will.

he said the elise has very little cooling, just one side vent an vents on the top which to be fair mine doesnt have but unlike the elise it is open on the bottom.

he reckons it will be fine an wont cause a problem as is an engineer an interested in building cars.

however know one knows for sure so im just gonna have to build it and see if theres a problem, if there is then i will find a solution. the simple solution will be fit a MGF fan sucking air from the road straight up and over the engine with some ducting so its not gonna be a major problem.

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Posted 6/12/2008 4:28 PM (#471050 - in reply to #407590)
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I really like your style, seriously, if it works all good, if it doesnt, find a solution

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Posted 6/12/2008 4:33 PM (#471052 - in reply to #471050)
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FreddieS - 6/12/2008 10:28 PM

I really like your style, seriously, if it works all good, if it doesnt, find a solution

its a great way of living life, works on everything but the girl friend lol

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Posted 6/12/2008 5:54 PM (#471069 - in reply to #407590)
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This thread has just been linked to on the Fiat Forums...it's like being stuck in some sort of infinite loop

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Posted 6/12/2008 6:45 PM (#471149 - in reply to #407590)
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ITS ONE VICIOUS CIRCLE MAAAAN!

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Posted 9/12/2008 3:02 PM (#471896 - in reply to #407590)
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although i havent finished the back yet i am bored of lookign ta it so i started work ont he front, im changing it to K series subframe to make use of the better suspension and mgf rack. how i do this im not totally sure yet. i also want to use standard wings so this is gonna mean dragging the wheel base back to standard. mostly so i can fit grp light weight panels in the future.

got the pedal box out as i need to fit a bias bar set up.

also took the windscreen out which is first time i ever done it an kept it in 1 piece!

Ralph

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Posted 9/12/2008 4:09 PM (#471916 - in reply to #407590)
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As regards the back, have you thought of using a GRP 6R4 hatch with the
vents?, you could mount a couple of air-con fans on the backpanel you have made
inside the boot and have the fans come on to suit as the depression behind the car
when moving will drag out the hot air from the engine bay through the door
vents, it wouldn't look too unstandard, but it should work well, problem is,
is the only things you could put in the boot would be things you dont mind
getting warm!!, OR, you could make a floor panel from the level where the
door lock is across to the panel and have whats below as the boot, and
dedicate the space above to warm air extraction, the fans could be covered
with a parcel shelf.

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Posted 9/12/2008 4:55 PM (#471941 - in reply to #407590)
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Ralph, can I ask you to take some pics of the k-series frame inside the a-series please. Like where you had to cut/modify the body work please.
Would be a great deal of help.

cheers, Pie

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Posted 10/12/2008 6:10 AM (#472027 - in reply to #407590)
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Dave, hopping not to use any panels with vents in, but again till its done i just wont know how much of a problem its gonna cause really, but that is an option i guess.

Pie, yes i will take pics, however the frame i make probably wouldnt be big enough for a K engine, but you will be able to see how much smaller it has to go to fit in the A car. the K exhaust would even hit the front cross member, never mind a subframe behind it.

Ralph

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Posted 10/12/2008 11:51 AM (#472102 - in reply to #407590)
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But isnt this the car you had the k-series in the front?

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Posted 10/12/2008 11:53 AM (#472104 - in reply to #472102)
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But isnt this the car you had the k-series in the front?

this is a different a series iirc

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Posted 17/12/2008 2:28 PM (#474107 - in reply to #472104)
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here's how i've got mine mounted at the moment, the problem is the pedal ratio is for servo assisted brakes

the pedal throw ratio is to low. i will be intrigued to see how you sort this, as it may save me ££££££ on the obp pedal box with reverse mounted m/c's.

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Posted 10/12/2008 12:19 PM (#472114 - in reply to #407590)
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ahhh rite, would explain it then.

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Posted 11/12/2008 10:51 AM (#472327 - in reply to #407590)
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yeah i rebodied due to rust and also unnecessary modifactions like k series gear tunnel/inner wings, basically its much cleaner conversion this way.

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Posted 16/12/2008 2:15 PM (#473825 - in reply to #407590)
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been busy with the pedal box, got all my brake master cylinder parts through, which consisted of 2 master cylinders, balance bar, dash top adjuster and a twin type reservoir.

this is how im mounting the master cylinders, tryign to fit the assembly under it is proving interesting but i think i have worked a way out of doing it. just need to cut another bit out of the lower pedal box to let the adjuster cable out.

im gonna put the adjuster knob behind the fuse box door so it cant be seen in normal use, and i can adjust it with the cover off if necessary, once setup i wont really need it anyway.

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Posted 16/12/2008 3:20 PM (#473854 - in reply to #407590)
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well done with this mate, you are a very clever guy!!

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Posted 16/12/2008 3:56 PM (#473866 - in reply to #407590)
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Now thats just awesome, keep up the awesome work!

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Posted 16/12/2008 5:07 PM (#473883 - in reply to #407590)
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Looking good.
Are you doing away with a servo?

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Posted 17/12/2008 2:20 AM (#473924 - in reply to #407590)
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bacause you've nothing in the engine bay it would probably be easier/better to have the m/c's mounted horizontally sticking into the engine bay

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Posted 17/12/2008 6:37 AM (#473963 - in reply to #473924)
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yeah am doing away with the servo, because the rear is now gonna be able to do a fare bit of braking it should be a more efficient system, on a standard car your putting effort against a regulator so wasting pedal effort. so i think it shouldn't be much harder to press than a normal pedal, i think the metro brake servo works 2 to 1???

jasonr - 17/12/2008 8:20 AM

bacause you've nothing in the engine bay it would probably be easier/better to have the m/c's mounted horizontally sticking into the engine bay

this would have been better from a weight aspect as would have got center of gravity down, but i would rather have it up out the way as it is, the cylinders will work perfectly well, tho i may turn them both around 180 degree's an have the pipes coming around to use less space as if i have enough room then i can make a storage space under the bonnet.

Ralph

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Posted 17/12/2008 4:11 PM (#474146 - in reply to #407590)
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both rally design and hispec said the pedal ratio you want 4 to 1 or even better 5 to 1, and the metro is 4.5 to 1 so it spot on really.

got it a bit more sorted today, all works, just need to weld the brake light switch/stop on, and fully weld/paint everything an i will be there.

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Posted 19/12/2008 3:46 AM (#474392 - in reply to #407590)
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have had one of our guys who is an ards instructor drive my car at our last sprint, he told me, that you have to work to hard to get the brakes to work. he basically told me i need to raise the ratio, so either 5:1 or 6:1 - i would be more inclined towards 6:1. when i've finished a race, the day after my right leg is a bit stiff, due to the amount of effort i have to put into braking

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Posted 19/12/2008 3:55 AM (#474393 - in reply to #407590)
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this is the route i was looking to take, it would allow me to move the seat further back - helping to move the c of g right to the middle of the car.

Edited by jasonr 19/12/2008 3:56 AM

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Posted 19/12/2008 5:09 AM (#474405 - in reply to #407590)
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changing the ratio would be a piece of cake on my setup as the position of it is only around what i have made, when i put it together i could have changed it, so if i have any trouble i will do so at a later date.

Ralph

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Posted 19/12/2008 6:06 PM (#474541 - in reply to #407590)
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here's what billy our race car guru said

'Its a bit of a dead pedal, you have to push very hard so it is hard to modulate the braking.

The actual braking effect is fine, it is just the pedal effort that is too high. Therefore, to reduce this either fit smaller diameter master cylinders or larger area calipers, or change the pedal ratio.'

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Posted 19/12/2008 6:16 PM (#474542 - in reply to #407590)
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the easy way to do the brake switch is to use a hydraulic one. you fit a T into the brake line and bobs your uncle

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Posted 22/12/2008 4:31 PM (#475115 - in reply to #407590)
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been ill over last few days so not done a hole load, got my black A series carpet tho

just working on building a front subframe, and got some rose joints on order as gonna rose joint the bottom arms to stop them slopping around on cheap bushes.

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Posted 22/12/2008 5:39 PM (#475127 - in reply to #407590)
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what colour are you thinking of painting it?

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Posted 23/12/2008 7:12 AM (#475177 - in reply to #475127)
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jay303 - 22/12/2008 11:39 PM

what colour are you thinking of painting it?

same as it was, on the outside it will be perfectly standard metro clubman, gonna get all the stickers etc made up to.

but the inside i have GTi seats so want all the black interior bits.

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Posted 23/12/2008 8:10 AM (#475193 - in reply to #407590)
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I have door bins, handles etc. from the GSI (from the k reg before that actually

)

Can't remember if the handles for the keep fit windows are in black as well.

I'll do a very reasonable price for the lot considering your local... so long as I don't have to cross into your country

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Posted 23/12/2008 11:33 AM (#475220 - in reply to #475193)
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Mutts Plums - 23/12/2008 2:10 PM

I have door bins, handles etc. from the GSI (from the k reg before that actually

sure i will be up your way at some point, i would be very interested in black door furniture, tho it would be a bonus if i could keep A series handles/pockets. if you could see what you got an take a picky an send it to me that would be good... no hurry, PM me when you had a chance to look....

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Posted 23/12/2008 6:00 PM (#475314 - in reply to #407590)
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that black carpet looks nice. I have never seen that before. always red or brown

really want black carpets in my A series

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Posted 2/1/2009 5:54 PM (#477775 - in reply to #407590)
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due to lack of ways to fit a decent suspension setup i have opted to make my own subframe, gonna rose joint the lower arms to rid myself of the rubber bushings, and have made up solid mounts to fix it to the car.

heres the start of it..... the box with rose joints stickign out is twhere the lower arms will fix on, eventually i will make custom lower arms but am gonna mod the standard ones first.

Ralph

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Posted 3/1/2009 12:17 PM (#477978 - in reply to #407590)
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long term gonna make custom bottoma rms as i think i said, but actually managed to modify the existing arm fairly well, managed to get it fixed to everything which the old bush was.

will prove it all works anyway.

the hard bit with this is gonna be getting the camber an caster angles near enough correct (they are finely adjustable anyway) and the wheel base spot on.

Ralph

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Posted 17/1/2009 1:07 PM (#482935 - in reply to #407590)
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been busy building subframe, to busy to post here lol.

got arm mounts on the subframe, just need few more guessets and also coilover mounts. im going to make up new top arms with a cranked bit in them, so i can put the coilovers in board pushing up on the cranked bit of the arm.

this will keep the coilovers low, and also keep the unsprung mass low as it will be the top of the shock moving not the bottom.

heres pic, tho done a bit since.

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Posted 18/1/2009 5:23 PM (#483352 - in reply to #407590)
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picked up a few of these of my mate the machinist (thanks dave) big one is basically the end of a bottom arm, so the bearings press in to it, other one has a taperd hole in it for the ball joint. they where hand done so no CNC, and are amazingly acurate, the bearing holes are all within 0.01mm measuring with a digi very-near.

will be profiling out the rest of it tomorrow, an probly get one tacked up at some point.

Ralph

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Posted 20/1/2009 4:36 PM (#484042 - in reply to #407590)
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1 top arm nearly done. obviously where the coilover mounts to it it will have another little bracket coming off.

basically these will allow my suspension units to sit inboard, giving more clearance, ans since the shock body will be remaining still, less unsprung mass.

Ralph

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Posted 27/1/2009 2:56 PM (#486842 - in reply to #407590)
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cheers for the center caps rosso!

an few updates, got top arm made up, got a coilover mounted in the correct place. got both extents of the wheels travel correct, next up need to get the rack fitted.

Ralph

edit: puts Z cars to shame dont it

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Posted 27/1/2009 3:25 PM (#486858 - in reply to #407590)
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looks a little close(suspension travel) there(red circle) or am I missing something?
will look very sophisticated in a metro when painted and fitted

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Posted 3/2/2009 4:29 PM (#489587 - in reply to #407590)
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not been at work today cause of snow, so got other top arm almost finished. front subframes almost there now, has steering rack mounts, top an bottom arm mounts, coilover mounts.

next up will be to get it in the car, get it sitting on its coilovers and do a visual check on camber/caster/wheel base. and also to work out how much room there is for fuel tank an design that, an work out anti roll bar fittings.

will get some pics tomorrow as i dout anyone wants to read to much of my writing lol.

Ralph

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Posted 5/2/2009 3:48 PM (#490373 - in reply to #407590)
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crush tubes welded in, both top arms finished, tad bit of work to do on one bottom arm, an need to fit drop stops an shes ready for test fit, so i can measure up for petrol tank, an fit antiroll bar.

Ralph

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Posted 8/2/2009 3:10 PM (#491302 - in reply to #407590)
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pics of subframe fitted, looks spot on, think the way i was gonna fit the anti roll bar isnt goign to work so gonna have to rethink there.

almost on its wheels again

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Posted 10/2/2009 1:31 PM (#491995 - in reply to #407590)
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got it sitting on both frotn wheels last night. and today did a few homers, the mgfs still have the ridiculas great stub axle/outer CV bit there just to hold the wheel bearing together.

lotus got roudn this by putting 2 washer type bits at either end and a bolt through them ont he elise i believe, but i reduced the weight of them by 1kg each side!! from 1300 to 350 grams each! which is a lot of lost un sprung weight really.

also cut myself some ARB bush clamps from 25mm ali.

Ralph

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Posted 22/2/2009 4:33 PM (#495756 - in reply to #407590)
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just to keep myself on the radar heres a few pics or how the anti roll bar is being fitted.

i hope with a nice coat of paint it will look less like something off scrap heap challenge an more like proper car parts lol.

it was a bit of a f**ker to get it so the rose joints where fine all the way though the suspension travel but it worked fine int he end, i fitted one shock/hub on one side, then lifted the other sides arm up and it lifted the hub etc up on the other side (obviously with no spring).

also my nice new stainless subframe mount bolts!

Ralph

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Posted 1/3/2009 4:15 PM (#497787 - in reply to #407590)
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subframe finished an stared painting it, gave it a coat or 3 of red oxide an harmeriting it satin black,

got MGF rad fitted to, can bearly see rad in pic tho.....

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Posted 2/3/2009 3:02 PM (#498093 - in reply to #497787)
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Looking spot on Ralph, you've got about 4 months till I come for a test drive

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Posted 8/3/2009 1:24 PM (#499818 - in reply to #498093)
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i hope it should be running in 4 months! tho every time i say that it takes longer!

been busy today working on car, wing on car was f**ked, crashed an kicked by the looks of it, so practiced fitting fuel filler in it, an worked fine, will pick up some pipe to weld on to it to link the fuel filler up tomorrow an route it through to where the tanks gonna be. once this is sorted i can paint the "petrol tank bay".

got the depressed hole bits welded in to the cross member for the rad bushes to push in to.

Ralph

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Posted 8/3/2009 2:42 PM (#499875 - in reply to #407590)
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why dont you keep the fuel filler inside the confines of the bonnet? might look a bit odd having the filler on the wing imo.

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Posted 8/3/2009 2:51 PM (#499881 - in reply to #407590)
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should hopefully look like its supposed to be there, anyway, not as odd as i would look filling my car up with petrol under the bonnet.

the fuel station would p[robly cut the fuel off if they saw someone filling up under there bonnet lol.

thanks for the good comments people!!

Ralph

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Posted 8/3/2009 2:55 PM (#499885 - in reply to #499881)
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Doesnt the Hillman Imp have an underbonnet filler? That filler looks odd on that front wing im affraid... if it were further back it would look okay i think...think it might be a bit close to the crumple zone there personally. Great effort youve been putting into this projet tho

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Posted 8/3/2009 3:03 PM (#499891 - in reply to #407590)
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i put it fairly well forward so i could keep the pipe diving stright down for a fair few inches and not hitting the wheel (obviously), trouble with having it further back is it was harder to route the pipe in to the fuel tank cause the chassis leg bit is on the way, or it would clash with the wheel.

gonna link it to the fuel tank with at least a foot of fuel pipe, so its going to be flexable, if it was crashed in to there should be no risk of it breaking as if it was solid mounted to the tank.

having the fuel tank in the front is a safty risk anyway, but well to bad, im probly gonna be mounting an LPG tank in there to in the future lol.

Ralph

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Posted 9/3/2009 5:15 AM (#500034 - in reply to #407590)
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if the filler cap were sprayed the same as the body work, it would look fine

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Posted 9/3/2009 1:54 PM (#500151 - in reply to #407590)
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I think the filler cap will look odd where ever you put it so as long as it functional I guess it doesn't matter.

Colour coding it may help?

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Posted 9/3/2009 4:42 PM (#500210 - in reply to #407590)
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its only a filler cap lol, i dont think it will look any more odd there than it does at the back, but either way its got to be somewhere.

tho im supposed to be building a car..... i tock the air blower box out today, kinda backwards progress but i can paint the engine bay now.

Ralph

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ralphh85 - 9/3/2009 9:42 PM

its only a filler cap lol, i dont think it will look any more odd there than it does at the back, but either way its got to be somewhere.

tho im supposed to be building a car..... i tock the air blower box out today, kinda backwards progress but i can paint the engine bay now.

Ralph

No thats doing a proper job and not a bodge!

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Posted 12/3/2009 3:04 PM (#501145 - in reply to #407590)
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been cleaning every inch of the front of the car, in preparation for taking out any rust and painting it.

cut short my mrs is having a go at me.......

back again........ heres pics, an started welding up the main wiper hole, with a water jet cut patch, will put up a pic of a patch at some point, if anyone wants them they are cheap! basically a rectangle with a perfect size wiper hole in it.

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Posted 13/3/2009 7:29 AM (#501346 - in reply to #501145)
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ralphh85 - 12/3/2009 9:04 PM

cut short my mrs is having a go at me.......

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LMAO. I cant work on the car for 1 day without mine starting a full blown row with me.
Considder yourself lucky

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Posted 12/3/2009 3:13 PM (#501152 - in reply to #407590)
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whats going in the front of the car btw ?

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Posted 12/3/2009 3:15 PM (#501156 - in reply to #407590)
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Radiator, petrol tank, suspension, wheels, thats about it.

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Posted 12/3/2009 3:16 PM (#501157 - in reply to #407590)
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Looking good ralph, really like your style, cant wait to see more progress

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Posted 13/3/2009 7:05 AM (#501339 - in reply to #407590)
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i can remeber at the start it looked like this would be done rapid style are you finding that theres lots of little bits that need doing which seem to take ages?

i sure did mines been basically road worthy for a few months now and havnt got it ready yet v5 to send off mot tax wheels to paint im glad to see your not rushing it and getting it mint as before getting its v8 ass on the roads lol.

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Posted 13/3/2009 7:17 AM (#501345 - in reply to #407590)
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exactly, i was just gonna bung the V8 and subframe in the back of my other car, job done. but now i got a cleaner car which isnt modified, painting everything an doing a proper job.

guess its the way these things go!

Ralph

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Posted 13/3/2009 7:54 AM (#501359 - in reply to #407590)
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no good are they!

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Posted 13/3/2009 2:37 PM (#501488 - in reply to #407590)
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pics/progress got the wiper holes sorted, not the best repairs in the world, but will only need about 1mm of filler to be perfect, and im sure they will be fine, on the drivers side wiper hole i used a patch cut from different scuttle panel, and its not as good as using real metal.

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Posted 13/3/2009 5:46 PM (#501532 - in reply to #407590)
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Some neat patch work your doing there, got much more rust areas to attend to or were those bits it?

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Posted 15/3/2009 4:18 PM (#501898 - in reply to #407590)
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there was 1 other hole, which i patched yesterday.

been treating the rust with KURUST, but i have slightly decided that im goign over the top with the hole restoration, and am gonna focus more an getting it sorted.

started red oxiding some of the engine bay bits which had been de rusted today.

Ralph

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Posted 21/3/2009 2:13 PM (#503264 - in reply to #407590)
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boring progress i know but its all got to be done.

got the rust patches fillered an painted.

slightly more interesting, you can see a hole where the fuel is gonna come through the wing, i basically made up a stainless flange thing which bolts to the wing, and has stainless pipes welded to it for the fuel through/breathers on the filler neck. hopefully get this a bit more finished/photoed tomorrow.

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Posted 23/3/2009 4:47 PM (#503705 - in reply to #407590)
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progress report, all the "ow your fuel caps in the wrong place" moaners wont like this one lol, i got a wing of friends broken MG, an using this one cause its in the right shape, un like the other. it needs a slight bit more attention, but its almost there.

also pretty much finished the bit which lets fuel through the inner wing.

Ralph

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Posted 23/3/2009 4:51 PM (#503707 - in reply to #407590)
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I like it

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Posted 23/3/2009 4:53 PM (#503709 - in reply to #407590)
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as long as the cap is functional then i think it looks mint buddy.

who cares if you have have a fuel cap there they dont look good where ever they are buddy same as mirrors and indicators imo hate them on a car but they are needed for functionability if thats a word lol.

as long as you like what your doing hardly matters what anyone else thinks if we all did the same builds would be pretty crap owning a metro u may as well have a saxo lol.

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Posted 29/3/2009 10:06 AM (#505101 - in reply to #407590)
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got subframe assembled an in car so i could check filler neck/wheel clearence, which was ok mostly in the end.

filler neck looks pretty cool, will photo it when i finish it later/tomorrow.

Ralph

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Posted 3/4/2009 5:11 AM (#506019 - in reply to #407590)
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working now, cheers! will continue updating this weekend!

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Posted 3/4/2009 7:37 AM (#506036 - in reply to #506019)
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looking good mate

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Posted 5/4/2009 3:56 PM (#506417 - in reply to #407590)
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progress has been almost as boring as watchign paint dry recently.

anyway heres pics,

basically i have been painted the parts which are visable when the bonnet is open, im goign to get the outside of the car sprayed properly at work as we have a spray gun etc etc, and im just hammeriting under the wheel arches. this is why i havent painted all of it.

i got the spray cans from a paint supplyer, and its a good colour match, i found i didnt have enough paint to dot he skuttle panel, so i went halfords and got some white diamond paint just for the skuttle, did the bottom and it was a different colour, so im gonna get all the paint from hex holdings from now on....

Ralph

edit, its not the best paint job in the world but at least its the right colour and not rusty. and sint goign to be seen enless im looking ta my petrol tank.

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Posted 5/4/2009 4:40 PM (#506437 - in reply to #407590)
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Getting there Ralph.. you might have already said but what you doing fuel tank wise? Im seeing a big shiny silver racing tank

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Posted 6/4/2009 3:19 AM (#506481 - in reply to #407590)
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i'm guessing its going to be white then? is it just going to be a plain paint scheme or somthing special? what are you doing about arches etc, are you leaving them standard or 6r4 kit?

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Posted 6/4/2009 4:19 AM (#506494 - in reply to #506481)
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looks sweet ralph very impressed

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Posted 6/4/2009 4:47 AM (#506500 - in reply to #506481)
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JamieS - 5/4/2009 9:40 PM

Getting there Ralph.. you might have already said but what you doing fuel tank wise? Im seeing a big shiny silver racing tank

your seeing a small ish shiny ali fuel tank which will get a mate to make up. probly same size as a normal metro one, obviously different shape tho.

Tom Sanderson - 6/4/2009 8:19 AM

i'm guessing its going to be white then? is it just going to be a plain paint scheme or somthing special? what are you doing about arches etc, are you leaving them standard or 6r4 kit?

yeah gonna be totally standard looking, gonna put the standard Metro/coach lines back on, and Clubman sticker accross the back, and fraid no 6r4 body kit, this aint gonna be a show off car lol.

Ralph

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Posted 6/4/2009 5:25 AM (#506504 - in reply to #506500)
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ralphh85 - 6/4/2009 10:47 AM

this aint gonna be a show off car

Except for the v8 in the back

Good progress, look forward to seeing it complete.

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Posted 9/4/2009 12:59 PM (#507268 - in reply to #407590)
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thanks for the comments people

anyway more interesting progress, got my fuel tank cut out today, an poped over to a mates on way home an he folded it up for me.

i welded it up with masking tape for a trial fit, and so i can mark on where the inlets/outlets are going.

it has a nice slope back/in to the middle so it should run right down low on fuel, so i wont be carrying unnecessary fuel everywhere which i can never use. the main filler goes on to the corner nearest it, and the 2 breathers will go more or less where the hose tails are.

ow and its 32L, so guessing it will have a fill up of around 25-30, fairly nice amount, presuming i do LPG it then i could always fit a massive LPG tank and make a smaller petrol tank. although theres room for around a 50L tank above it as it is.

also got paint to paint my slam panel, so should have the Rad in soon.

Ralph

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Posted 9/4/2009 3:16 PM (#507325 - in reply to #407590)
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Something I've seen kit car builders say is that even though they have tried to keep their tank clean, they've still had a LOT of crap ending up in the fuel filter when they've finally got to starting the thing. Have you got a fuel filter? You probably should have.

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Posted 10/4/2009 2:59 PM (#507552 - in reply to #407590)
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yeah, be mad to run no fuel filter at all. i think there should be some kind of strainer in the tank, maybe a pre pump filter, and then the main filter before fuel rail.

got the slam panel painted finaly painted tonight.

Ralph

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Posted 22/4/2009 5:03 PM (#508246 - in reply to #407590)
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got fuel tank completed today, just need to rig up a strap to hold it in, so far it cost me 16 for the gauge sender, an i need to buy a box of beer to pay for the welding/folding. all rest free

best way!

been working on the pedal box to, got it apart an painted few bits, will assemble that some other time.

Ralph

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Posted 23/4/2009 2:00 AM (#508260 - in reply to #407590)
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the petrol tank looks absolutely spot on, and i am suprised how much space there still is under the bonnet!

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Posted 26/4/2009 4:16 PM (#508703 - in reply to #407590)
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yeah enough room for a few immigrants under there.

progress, pic of hoe it looks now, got the pedal box built up, so just need brake lines now an the brakes will work, same with the clutch.

started pulling the loom apart as i want to get the loom sorted at the front so it doesnt have any of the engine connectors and does have fuel gauge/pump.

Ralph

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Posted 4/5/2009 4:25 PM (#509681 - in reply to #407590)
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few updates, got the car turned round, got the fuel pump attached an plumbed in, which means i can finally dot he electrics int he front now i as i know where all the wires are going. and also got the brake reservoir attached an plumbed on.

back on with the interesting end!!

yes i am guilty of butchering the fuel filler cap off, but dont worry im gonna replace the hole panel cause it has damage just in front of the ex fuel filler anyway. so should all look good after wards.

Ralph

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Posted 4/5/2009 4:27 PM (#509683 - in reply to #407590)
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Great stuff man! Just had a re read of this thread and its all great work

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Posted 5/5/2009 5:28 AM (#509722 - in reply to #407590)
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Oh my god Ralph! Looking at that last photo, its gonna be one hell of a sleeper!

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Posted 11/5/2009 5:17 PM (#510987 - in reply to #407590)
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thanks for the coments! i hope it will be a good sleeper, thats most of the action plan anyway!

got the front totally done pretty much now, all the electrics completed to the fuel pump/sender. got some nice little clips to hold the wires/pipes in place over the tank.

got alarm mostly wired in, an made a neat job of it with just 1 bunch of wires going straight from it in to the main loom, rather than having wires going everywhere.

got door looms for it which have the central locking wires on them, gonna put in new motors an bin the locking pins and key locks for added security, but leave the key locks in place to keep the original look.

anyway most positive progress is the engine/subframe frame is out, and im finishing welding the rear so i can paint it an put the engine back in for the last time.

Ralph

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Posted 11/5/2009 7:05 PM (#511012 - in reply to #407590)
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WOW! what a build thread, ive finally had time to read this from page one and what work! unbelieveable amount fo time gone into it all. hats off to ya

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Posted 12/5/2009 4:39 PM (#511150 - in reply to #407590)
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thanks for the comments once again! yeah i want to keep this as subtle on the outside as i can.

necessary modifications only to the look of the car.

anyway got shit loads done today, need to get some profiles cut out tomorrow, and they will be the last parts to be welded to the car, so i really should be painting the back of it the end of this week/this weekend.

once its painted an looking a bit more like the front its only gona be a pinch away from being wired/plumbed an started, i think hearing the V8 rumble will give me alot of inspiration!

tho theres still alot of unknowns, the engine/box adapter plate has yet to prove itself, along with the drive shafts, the gearbox which i built up an hasnt been tested, hand brake system.

but all should be ok, after all if something causes an issue then its just a case of fixing/modifying it.

Ralph

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Posted 13/5/2009 6:08 AM (#511186 - in reply to #407590)
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I'm liking the 'T' shaped inspection pit, jammy git!!!

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Posted 13/5/2009 6:15 AM (#511188 - in reply to #511186)
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Dave VVC - 13/5/2009 11:08 AM

I'm liking the 'T' shaped inspection pit, jammy git!!!

f**ken right, i rent the flat which is attached to this garage (above an behind), my landladys house is just across from it (not attached), im not using the garage for free, an its becoming more an more mine, its great! big double garage, lots of power points, T pit, centrally heated, running water/sink, 4 windows an good lighting!

Ralph

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Posted 16/5/2009 3:06 AM (#511718 - in reply to #407590)
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Have you thought of paneling the 'engine' bay like an mgf to give your a bit of storage?

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Posted 16/5/2009 5:03 AM (#511736 - in reply to #407590)
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hopefully it will have enough storage behind the engine (proper boot) and the most convenient place will be just behind the front seats.

i hardly ever used my metros boot cause i never have people int he back so just threw stuff on back seats.

under the bonnet space might get eated up by an LPG tank.

weird, thread is working fine from this pc.........

Ralph

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Posted 16/5/2009 8:53 AM (#511755 - in reply to #407590)
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Working from my i-phone aswell! Cars looking quality ralph!

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Posted 17/5/2009 4:35 PM (#511945 - in reply to #407590)
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got most of the rear painted, so one step closer to gettign engine back in for the last time.

Ralph

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Posted 19/5/2009 4:43 PM (#512282 - in reply to #407590)
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i have a boot floor, crinkled up some 1mm steel so it looks like the rest of the floor.

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Posted 19/5/2009 4:49 PM (#512284 - in reply to #512282)
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not bad, gives you that bit of extra strength too while looking original

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Posted 20/5/2009 11:32 AM (#512389 - in reply to #407590)
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Can i ask where you purchased the water pump ?

Whats the spec of it ralph ?

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Posted 20/5/2009 5:18 PM (#512475 - in reply to #407590)
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its the 80LPM one, off ebay i think, from Australia!! good old ausys. its an Australian company which make them. just need to buy the digital controller to control it now.

Ralph

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Posted 21/5/2009 4:09 AM (#512500 - in reply to #407590)
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Davies Craig water pumps - they're awesome. If you use the digital controller they keep water temp spot on - they pulse at first then vary the output voltage / motor speed according to temp. You'd need to remove the thermostat obviously.

Garreth.

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Posted 25/5/2009 3:56 PM (#513189 - in reply to #407590)
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got engine bay sealed an painted white, and got engine back in.

great to see it all back together, an hopefully i wont need the engine back out again now.

just got to locate the battery/header tank/air box/ecu

and wire it up, plum in the brakes/clutch/fuel lines/rad, fit hand brake cable/gear cables/accelerator pedal

getting closer

Ralph

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Posted 25/5/2009 4:32 PM (#513206 - in reply to #407590)
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what about shielding of the engine compartment from dirt, spray and water, or wont you be driving it in the wet anyway?

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Posted 25/5/2009 5:42 PM (#513225 - in reply to #513206)
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Most engine bays (about 99%) aren't sealed anyway, and if the bottom of the bay is sealed, it will be a pain in the bum to cool. With the sump guard and underskirts on the rally car, it gets very hot inside, as well as not exactly helping the engine stay cool.

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Posted 26/5/2009 3:26 AM (#513254 - in reply to #407590)
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engine bay will be sealed from the cable but not from the floor, it will be just like it was in the front, its got inner wings which should keep most mud in the arches.

need to get as much cooling from under the car as i can.

Ralph

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Posted 26/5/2009 11:18 AM (#513345 - in reply to #407590)
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where are you drawing the air for the air filter?

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Posted 26/5/2009 2:38 PM (#513409 - in reply to #407590)
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Im weeing with excitment!

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Posted 27/5/2009 4:35 AM (#513551 - in reply to #513409)
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jeckulz - 26/5/2009 7:38 PM

Im weeing with excitment!

dont you work with people who do that

lol.

will have a cold air feed from just in front of the gearbox somewhere. near wheer the battery tray is gonna be, which im planning right now.

Ralph

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Posted 31/5/2009 4:42 PM (#514361 - in reply to #407590)
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aint done much this weekend, but i have completed the body loom almost, up to the connectors which will connect tot he engine loom. i have utilised the range rover ecu/ignition and gauges plugs, and also the metro reserving light switch connector. so these will be all which connect the engine to the car electrically.

the 2 brown wires will have an eye on them an will go to the alternator, and the green and green/brown are fan switch wires an will go straight to the switch with is gonna be around there anyway.

the hole the wires come out of will have a plate stuck over it, and a big gromit sit in it which will have the wires coming through to seal the engine bay from the inside of the panel.

got battery tray in, nice tig welded stainless one, bolted in, seems to hold it all nice an tight, an isnt to heavy either. got the battery as low as possible.

Ralph

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Posted 1/6/2009 4:30 PM (#514558 - in reply to #407590)
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coming along nicely, have you set yourself and date for the test drive yet as you can't be too far off now can you

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Posted 1/6/2009 5:03 PM (#514570 - in reply to #514558)
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About June 28 I think

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Posted 2/6/2009 3:48 AM (#514633 - in reply to #514570)
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it wont be long but im not gonna put my name to any dates as i never seem to meet them lol.

not this weekend but next weekend im away in Scotland/Manchester but im back the weekend after that so you never know might be half working on the 28th!!

this has very much gone from a quick project to a full restoration as well, which is why its taken about 4 times as long as i first thought, but thats ok at least it wont rust away so quick!

Ralph

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Posted 2/6/2009 4:17 AM (#514639 - in reply to #407590)
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Top man, seriously look forward to seeing this buety running!

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Posted 2/6/2009 4:37 PM (#514775 - in reply to #407590)
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almost got the wiring done, only really got the revering light switch to wire in, an the fans witch but that will have to weight till i got the water pipes in.

then just need to tape it up, an probly put some protective sleeve over it where it passes under the exhaust, an work out how to secure it away from the exhaust.

Ralph

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Posted 2/6/2009 7:50 PM (#514789 - in reply to #407590)
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I know I mentioned this earlier Ralph, but you had soooo better be comin to MGM this year.
And you better be comin in this!

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Posted 3/6/2009 4:14 PM (#514946 - in reply to #407590)
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awesome!!!

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Posted 4/6/2009 2:57 AM (#515018 - in reply to #407590)
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it turns over! fuel pump buzzes, got small oil filter on which clears bottom arm.

next jobs i think are gonna be

Fuel lines,
Water Pump,
Gear Linkage,
Exhaust back box.

will upload pics later, didnt have time last night.

never know it might make it to MGM, would like to but all progress dependent obviously lol. thanks for the good comments

Ralph

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Posted 4/6/2009 3:13 AM (#515020 - in reply to #407590)
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The threads doing it again!

Good work Ralph, Can't wait to see it running!

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Posted 4/6/2009 5:08 PM (#515154 - in reply to #407590)
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pic of electrics how they are now.

didnt get much work done today, but i have cadded up a gear stick holder, which will hold the gear stick to the metro, gonna be a nice stainless steel jobby. a modified gear cable holder which will fit over my fly wheel cover. again will be stainless.

little clip to which holds a type of jublee clip, one which will hold the coil an one to hold the fuel filter.

and a nice water pump bracket which should hold pump in correct location, and is gonna be a nice tig welded ali thing.

should hopefully get all the profiles cut out tomorrow, so got my work cut out this weekend! since my mrs is goign royal cornwall show saturday, i got the day to myself

Ralph

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Posted 5/6/2009 9:01 PM (#515325 - in reply to #515154)
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ralphh85 - 4/6/2009 11:08 PM

should hopefully get all the profiles cut out tomorrow, so got my work cut out this weekend!
Ralph

No punn intended!

Get this to MGM... I'll buy you a 'burger'

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Posted 6/6/2009 1:49 PM (#515427 - in reply to #407590)
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lol i didnt realise i said that.

anyway heres todays hard work,

gear stick pretty much sorted, just waiting for paint to dry where i had to weld a bit in to the car.

both lower fuel pipes done,

clutch pipe done, just need ends flaring.

Ralph

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Posted 6/6/2009 2:06 PM (#515429 - in reply to #407590)
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Your my hero

Cant wait to see this finished!

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Posted 12/6/2009 4:25 AM (#516220 - in reply to #407590)
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Shes Alive

had all kinda of trouble starting as no oil in the oil pump, then forgot to time the rotor arm right after removing the dizzy to prime oil pump with a drill.

but got it started in the end, also got nice little ali water pump bracket welded up, will try an upload a few photos later.

project will now go quite for at least 5 days as im going away to Scotland tomorrow!

Ralph

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Posted 12/6/2009 4:34 AM (#516224 - in reply to #407590)
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What does it sound like mate?

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Posted 12/6/2009 5:03 PM (#516310 - in reply to #516224)
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Eddbmxdude - 12/6/2009 9:34 AM

What does it sound like mate?

hate to be a dissapintment but it sounds kinda like any other car with no exhaust lol. but getting an exhaust box on an Rad pipes is now a priority, then can get it running properly.

heres a few pics anyway, feel like im getting somewhere now, starts and it has gears, just need to get the rest sorted.

the clutch/fuel pipes aint very neat but i will tidy them up!

Ralph

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Posted 19/6/2009 4:46 PM (#517275 - in reply to #407590)
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im feeling exhausted after today

got the back box mostly made up, since im tryign to keep it a bit quite with only 1 box, i am havign a resonator first and then a conventional perforated pipe with wadding around it going through the rest.

used this cheese grater type metal, again hole thing is made up of 316 stainless steel. other than the pipes its all made out of sheet metal, folded the oval bit an welded it to the ends.

i hope to end up with the tail pipe being in the same place as the standard maniflow one was.

Ralph

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Posted 19/6/2009 5:11 PM (#517288 - in reply to #517275)
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looks neat, I take it that you have opted to bolt the end flange onto the box which is a good idea as you can then either re-pack or change the wading inside

ralphh85

Posted 19/6/2009 5:28 PM (#517293 - in reply to #407590)
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yep, the "cheese grater tube" which is just under 400mm long will be fixed to the end plate/tail pipe, so will all come out so it will be easy to maintain. also i will be able to get it to a level so its about the right noise.

Ralph

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Posted 19/6/2009 7:04 PM (#517310 - in reply to #407590)
Subject: RE: The V8 Metro

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Have you used steel or synthetic packing?

ralphh85

Posted 21/6/2009 4:06 PM (#517518 - in reply to #407590)
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got some glass fibre type packing, like a mat which you roll around the silencer.

heres a few pics, got more done since then, got the tail pipe on an the silencer linked to the main pipe.

once i got the exhaust on i will be able to get it started an get a vid of its roar, which hopefully wont be to loud!!

Ralph

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Posted 28/6/2009 2:03 PM (#518580 - in reply to #407590)
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back from my tavels and on the project again!

and best news ever, she runs! had a faulty relay, so fires up an exhaust doesnt sound to loud either, might get a vid of it later.

before i left i wrapped the manifolds to.

Ralph

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Posted 29/6/2009 1:56 AM (#518619 - in reply to #407590)
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RUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUDE

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Posted 29/6/2009 6:04 AM (#518635 - in reply to #407590)
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Amazing progress, amazing project, amazing car.

Its all coming together now, i bet you can definatly see the light at the end of the tunnel

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Posted 29/6/2009 6:14 AM (#518639 - in reply to #518635)
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munday - 29/6/2009 11:04 AM

Amazing progress, amazing project, amazing car.

Its all coming together now, i bet you can definatly see the light at the end of the tunnel

thanks mate!

no i still cant see it but i herd it

Ralph

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Posted 29/6/2009 6:20 AM (#518642 - in reply to #518639)
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ralphh85 - 29/6/2009 12:14 PM

munday - 29/6/2009 11:04 AM

Amazing progress, amazing project, amazing car.

Its all coming together now, i bet you can definatly see the light at the end of the tunnel

thanks mate!

no i still cant see it but i herd it

Ralph

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Posted 29/6/2009 4:35 PM (#518715 - in reply to #407590)
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vid...... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LhqqeEqH8G8

audio is crap as its only a digi cam, also think the alternator is making a ruff ticking sound. but proof it works!

rev counter reads double to, tho i have a wiring diagram of how to alter it to 8 cylinder, just a different capacitor/resister inside the clocks.

Ralph

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Posted 29/6/2009 5:06 PM (#518730 - in reply to #407590)
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ralph mate the vids no good its not a vvc

ive waited months for that vid

cant wait to see it finished

MG mad

Posted 1/7/2009 1:48 AM (#518902 - in reply to #407590)
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Glad to hear it's running now, though would have been to good to hear it in person

good that it was only a minor prob, all you need now is to get it on the road

jeckulz

Posted 1/7/2009 3:26 AM (#518907 - in reply to #407590)
Subject: RE: The V8 Metro

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Aaaaaaaaaawwwww Yeeeaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhh!!!
SHES ALIVE!!!!!
Keep it ccomin Ralph!

FreddieS

Posted 2/7/2009 3:16 PM (#519107 - in reply to #407590)
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So whats left then?

ralphh85

Posted 2/7/2009 4:19 PM (#519121 - in reply to #407590)
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EWP controller installed, the water pump now runs.

whats left.... today i decided im gonna make my next job to finish the rear end, my next jobs are.......

tape up wiring/fit wires to reversing light.
accelerator cable
speedo cable
Brake lines
hand brake cables
Engine covers
Water pipes
wire in imobiliser/fit siren

then its just refit interior etc! so not exactly the world to go!

Ralph

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Posted 5/7/2009 1:20 PM (#519424 - in reply to #407590)
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this weekend i got the speedo drive cable in and shortened to the right length, got the accelerator cable in but doesn't work yet as i need to make up a holder for the cable by the pedal as im re routing it so it doesn't go through the bulkhead.

also got the immobilizer wired in and the siren fitted.

nothing interesting to take pics off.

gonna run out of stuff to do if i dont buy the water pipe bends soon, but i cant afford them till next weekend. an to be fair theres still plenty to do.

Ralph

jeckulz

Posted 12/7/2009 5:20 AM (#520231 - in reply to #407590)
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No MGM then?

ralphh85

Posted 12/7/2009 12:43 PM (#520264 - in reply to #407590)
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fraid not! only just got back from suffolk as its was my grans 100th! she got a card from the queen...... i never want to become a 100 tho.....

going away has rather hamperd project progress in last month due to going scotland/manchester an not suffolk but progress will be back now.

will upload some pics later, got hand brake lever bolted in on an adaptor to move it back few inches.

once its done i will bring it to a metro meet so any interested poeple can come see it!

Ralph

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Posted 16/7/2009 5:05 AM (#520700 - in reply to #407590)
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ralphh85 - 1/7/2009 4:18 PM

i see what you mean but thats not the problem i have, mines reading the pulces perfect, its just these twice the frequency of them per RPM now thats its an 8 cylinder. (the coil is charged at twice the frequency).

i will try an find the wiring diagram of how to change the dials from 4 cyl to 8 cyl. probly mean more to you than me but doesnt look to bad.

Ralph

is this an after market tacho? i've seen a few of the cheaper ones which had a switch inside the body which could be set for either 4 6 or 8 cylinder, nothing like that on yours?

you could always get the face re printed with the divisions twice normal! might mean you'd only display up to 5-6k but thats plenty on a semi standard efi v8

ralphh85

Posted 16/7/2009 7:38 AM (#520711 - in reply to #407590)
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take a look at the vid, its a standard metro gti dials, which pick up fine from the usual negetive side of the coil.

the only problem comes that it now has twice as many cylinders, so naturally it reads double.

the only solution really is to modify the dials so it reads correctly for 8 cylinders.

Ralph

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Posted 16/7/2009 8:00 AM (#520714 - in reply to #520711)
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ralphh85 - 16/7/2009 1:38 PM

take a look at the vid, its a standard metro gti dials, which pick up fine from the usual negetive side of the coil.

the only problem comes that it now has twice as many cylinders, so naturally it reads double.

the only solution really is to modify the dials so it reads correctly for 8 cylinders.

Ralph

It should be possible to put basic circuit to half the number of pulses going to the tacho

ralphh85

Posted 16/7/2009 8:24 AM (#520719 - in reply to #520714)
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quick_spider - 16/7/2009 1:00 PM

It should be possible to put basic circuit to half the number of pulses going to the tacho

yeah but i got no idea how to do that, where as its just 1 capacitor which you have to change in the dials to change it, so i dont think that will be that hard.

Ralph

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Posted 16/7/2009 11:54 AM (#520732 - in reply to #407590)
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I told you how to fix the tacho problem, if you run the relay as i explained it will work 100% regardless if its a 4 6 or 8 cylinder engine fitted, you would be using the relay as a coil to run the tacho so what engine is fitted is irrelevant it will be getting the same high voltage it needs, just like when it had the a series fitted, it is the clocks that need the correct signal, fitting the relay coil will do this .

ralphh85

Posted 16/7/2009 3:04 PM (#520766 - in reply to #407590)
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but the relay will charge the same frequency as the actual coil so surely its still going to read double? presuming the relays connected to the coil negetive?

no mater where i get a signal from on the v8 its goign to be running at twice the frequency per RPM than a 4cyl engine.

update, handbrake works, which is good, how well is unknown! got the lever mounted on a little bracket so its further back as to clear the gearstick, should also improve driving position.

also got few water pipes on the engine/water pump, still waiting more pipes tho. taken some vacume hose off im gonna replace, and removed the stupid water heater bit on the TB.

Ralph

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Posted 16/7/2009 5:22 PM (#520796 - in reply to #407590)
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Forgive me if I am wrong, but isn't a tacho just a voltmeter? The more pulses the higher the 'voltage' sensed by the coil in the tacho and therefore more deflection it has. Sort of how thyristors control modern electric motor speed by modulating the pulse width. Therefore a resistor placed in series is going to reduce the voltage across the tacho and make it read less. So if you calibrate it with the right resistance you will get it to read half.

Just my 2 pence if you like.

Duckers

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Posted 16/7/2009 6:19 PM (#520805 - in reply to #520796)
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Duckers - 16/7/2009 11:22 PM

Just my 2 pence if you like.

Duckers

That seemed logical enough to me mate

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Posted 17/7/2009 3:32 AM (#520830 - in reply to #520805)
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jeckulz - 16/7/2009 11:19 PM

Duckers - 16/7/2009 11:22 PM

Just my 2 pence if you like.

Duckers

That seemed logical enough to me mate

nah it counts the frequency of the pulces, so resisting its signal will ust weakent he signal picked up by the read out till it didnt work.

im gonna create a thread in the technical section to help stop this thread getting spammed up!

post here on the tacko thread....... http://metropower.org.uk/forum/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=54612&posts=1#M520829

Ralph

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Posted 19/7/2009 2:48 PM (#521123 - in reply to #407590)
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update,

got all of the main water pipes in, i should have taken a pic before i removed come of the under car ones but forgot, took some back out to make up the ones which have smaller pipes comign off for heater matrix/header tank.

got header tank in an have sused what i need for small pipes for it/heater matrix.

im hoping by sinking the heater matrix pipes in at 45degs and leaving the end at 90degs it should pick up enough water to keep the heater working.

water pipe is 16g (1.6mm) ali pipe so is very light, lighter than the water i expect

Ralph

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vvc warrior

Posted 23/7/2009 6:58 AM (#521590 - in reply to #407590)
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so how far you away from completeing the car Ralph ??

ralphh85

Posted 23/7/2009 8:20 AM (#521594 - in reply to #521590)
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vvc warrior - 23/7/2009 11:58 AM

so how far you away from completeing the car Ralph ??

i must get asked that twice a day lol, truely its very hard to say, the only real stuff to do now is finish the cooling system which just needs heater matrix/header tank pipes, and plumb the brakes in.

im cutting some engine covers out now, i could lift the panel with my little finger and its strong enough i could stand in the middle of it

i think it will be driving in a month (maybe not road worthy tho) but i have been wrong with every estimate due to project changes (getting more in depth)

Ralph

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Posted 26/7/2009 3:04 PM (#521941 - in reply to #407590)
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much needed update,

engine covers are well good, all togeather they weight 5kg, and they are well stiff, as said could easy take my weight, mdf would have been 4 times that weight even if only 12mm thick, an these are 25mm.

started welding up the old fuel filler hole to, got the inside plated but didnt finish the outside, mostly lack of motivation due to massive hangover. i did gain a "118" blokes wig last night tho....

couple pics....

ralphh85

Posted 26/7/2009 3:59 PM (#521950 - in reply to #407590)
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couple pics of the water pipes which i got welded up.

Ralph

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Posted 27/7/2009 8:23 AM (#522016 - in reply to #407590)
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very interesting project im always a little dissapointed wen i log on thats there no more updates sooooo pull ya finger out lol

hope all goes to plan for u

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Posted 27/7/2009 4:34 PM (#522112 - in reply to #407590)
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well as not to disappoint heres todays update!

got the old filler patch fully welded in, and then got some filler on it, think it may need tiny bit more in places, and probly quite bit removing!

im not a big fan of doing body work, an especially not filler!

Ralph

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Posted 27/7/2009 4:45 PM (#522114 - in reply to #407590)
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Doesnt look a bad job that Ralph if your not one for body work.

Nock the lumps off that filler with something even as course as 40grit paper on a sanding block. Then you could do with a long-bed cheapo electric sander and flat it down with 80-120grit before applying any more filler.

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Posted 27/7/2009 4:47 PM (#522117 - in reply to #407590)
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Looking mighty fine ralph, some decent progress

look forward to seeing it all finished!

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Posted 27/7/2009 5:15 PM (#522121 - in reply to #407590)
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thanks for the compliments, as i welded the patch in, paticuly when i was tacking it in place i put a ruler across it, so its not prowd anywhere, an there shouldnt be any more than a few mm of filler needed.

i will get something to use as a sanding block, and some sand paper, as all i have is emery cloth!

Ralph

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Posted 27/7/2009 5:35 PM (#522129 - in reply to #407590)
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iirc i got some quality 40 grit sandpaper ina 100m roll from trago mills many moons ago, was like £4 lol!

not sure how close you are to trago but its down that sort of way!

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Posted 27/7/2009 6:03 PM (#522139 - in reply to #407590)
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Coming along to the finishing touches now Ralph

good to see it running and also good to see you sorted out the rev counter problem

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Posted 28/7/2009 9:11 AM (#522228 - in reply to #407590)
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if you use a file, to remove most of the filler, it will give you nice flat surfaces. thats how i did my van, when i fitted a storage box under the chasis.

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Posted 28/7/2009 9:21 AM (#522229 - in reply to #407590)
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i feel at ease now i seen more pics

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Posted 28/7/2009 3:40 PM (#522276 - in reply to #407590)
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well heres some more.

i found a proper sanding pad thing at work, but i forgot to bring it home. the filler was pretty hard, so i tock the grinder to it with a sanding pad thing, ripped the big stuff off instantly.

will bring the sanding thing and an orbital sander home from work tomorrow.

i got the final heater/header tank pipes in, so thats the coolant circuits done! will test the Rad this weekend hopefully.

and also i sized up an modified the covers i made to cover the holes int he rear 1/4's, tho these are to heavy (1kg) so im gonna make them out of ali an save half a kg.

also orderd some custom brake hoses off Fast Eddy, hope to receive them at some point.

Ralph

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Posted 28/7/2009 4:25 PM (#522288 - in reply to #407590)
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that rear wheel sits so nicely! damnnn its lookin goooood

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Posted 29/7/2009 4:18 PM (#522416 - in reply to #407590)
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yeah the wheels all just fit under the arches, pretty good fit.

anyway, got ali blanks made up anfd blanked off the holes left where the door cards where.

also been working on fixing the panels in as thats next up.

Ralph

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Posted 1/8/2009 5:15 AM (#522728 - in reply to #407590)
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ordered some custom brake flexys of Fast Eddy on tuesday i think, an he lived up to his name, they arrived yesterday.

they look really good quality, they have stainless ends and nuts which alot of the Goodrich ones dont come with enless you specify/pay more.

hopefully will get brakes sorted today but will see. will update later on hopefully!

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Posted 3/8/2009 5:18 PM (#523116 - in reply to #407590)
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few pics, brakes work, see the brake lines.... all bleed.

now i cant work out why the engine wont start lol.

will get back to it tomorrow!

Ralph

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Posted 4/8/2009 7:47 PM (#523242 - in reply to #407590)
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Oh my that looks quality! is it jsut me or are the front wheels sitting sweeter than standard aswell?

You planning on refurbishing the wheels at all?

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Posted 5/8/2009 3:38 AM (#523259 - in reply to #523242)
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i did try an get them so they just go inside the arches, also have slightly more camber than normal, along with the caster is adjustable.

rear is slightly (3mm) wider than K series front,

front is slightly narrower than K series front,

so both are wider than standard A series.

yeah would e nice to get them refurbished after i get the car painted an looking nice.

Ralph

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Posted 5/8/2009 3:55 AM (#523262 - in reply to #523259)
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ralphh85 - 5/8/2009 9:38 AM

i did try an get them so they just go inside the arches, also have slightly more camber than normal, along with the caster is adjustable.

rear is slightly (3mm) wider than K series front,

front is slightly narrower than K series front,

so both are wider than standard A series.

yeah would e nice to get them refurbished after i get the car painted an looking nice.

Ralph

Paint it brown, get beaded seat covers and get a nice tartan blanket for your 'parcel' (ahem... engine) shelf.

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Posted 5/8/2009 6:31 AM (#523275 - in reply to #523262)
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"Paint it brown, get beaded seat covers and get a nice tartan blanket for your 'parcel' (ahem... engine) shelf."

lmao thats too easy to picture

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Posted 5/8/2009 6:34 AM (#523277 - in reply to #523262)
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"Paint it brown, get beaded seat covers and get a nice tartan blanket for your 'parcel' (ahem... engine) shelf."

lmao thats too easy to picture

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Posted 5/8/2009 6:38 AM (#523282 - in reply to #523262)
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jeckulz - 5/8/2009 9:55 AM

Paint it brown, get beaded seat covers and get a nice tartan blanket for your 'parcel' (ahem... engine) shelf.

I think it'd be best off looking like a tatty old clubman. Refurbed wheels FTL!

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Posted 6/8/2009 3:52 AM (#523384 - in reply to #407590)
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Get these
http://www.dominicwilcox.com/stickers.html

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Posted 6/8/2009 8:23 AM (#523419 - in reply to #407590)
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lol i got real versions of them

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Posted 6/8/2009 8:34 PM (#523611 - in reply to #407590)
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looking good mate,on the rev counter,could you use a range rover tacho,the instrument binnacle is almost identical to a metro,i have a 1986 rr(not breaking,sorry)that i bought of gandhi,s dad,i could post pics of the binnacle if you like,they are very similar,and of course its a v8,cheers,chris.

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Posted 13/8/2009 9:12 AM (#524609 - in reply to #407590)
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its looking really good atm Ralph !

your post views was 23232 when i looked

crazy ! haha

what vehicle was the V8 originally from ?

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Posted 13/8/2009 3:59 PM (#524735 - in reply to #524609)
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Leaky - 13/8/2009 2:12 PM

its looking really good atm Ralph !

your post views was 23232 when i looked

crazy ! haha

what vehicle was the V8 originally from ?

thanks, aint got much done this week but will update tomorrow, started on putting the interior back in and gonna sort the front an gte bonnet back on this weekend then it will look more like a car!

fare few views but then its been on going for ages now!

was a Range rover, not an ideal engine but then thats why im gonna build another engine after with better cams/heads so its more of a car engine.

Ralph

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Posted 20/8/2009 4:50 PM (#525647 - in reply to #407590)
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update,

aint done a hole load, but have got carpet in, an a dash, tho dash might come back out again for some brake modifications.

i ordered an Emerald ECU, which should solve a few problems, not least it not starting lol.

think im gonna ditch the coil/dizzy an go on to coil packs to (could have run emerald in to coil/dizzy cap).

Ralph

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Posted 20/8/2009 5:05 PM (#525653 - in reply to #525647)
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ralphh85 - 20/8/2009 10:50 PM

update,

aint done a hole load, but have got carpet in, an a dash, tho dash might come back out again for some brake modifications.

i ordered an Emerald ECU, which should solve a few problems, not least it not starting lol.

think im gonna ditch the coil/dizzy an go on to coil packs to (could have run emerald in to coil/dizzy cap).

Ralph

Should make for a more reliable v8 metro

How often do ya think youll use it when its finished?

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Posted 20/8/2009 5:24 PM (#525663 - in reply to #525653)
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JamieS - 21/8/2009 10:05 AM

Should make for a more reliable v8 metro

How often do ya think youll use it when its finished?

Given that it will be his only car? Most days I'd say

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Posted 20/8/2009 5:34 PM (#525667 - in reply to #525663)
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MG mad - 20/8/2009 11:24 PM

JamieS - 21/8/2009 10:05 AM

Should make for a more reliable v8 metro

How often do ya think youll use it when its finished?

Given that it will be his only car? Most days I'd say

I thought he had another clubman

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Posted 20/8/2009 5:15 PM (#525658 - in reply to #407590)
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An Idea, get rid of the dizzy, but use the drive as a cam phase sensor
'al la' cossy, for sequential injection, should be fairly easy to do.

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Posted 20/8/2009 5:32 PM (#525666 - in reply to #407590)
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drive it like its hired

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any space for an lpg tank? can you water jet one lol

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Posted 21/8/2009 3:15 AM (#525676 - in reply to #407590)
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as said will be my only car, i would hate to spend so much time building a fast road car, an then only drive it on the odd sunday!

emerald only has 4 injector drivers i think, so wouldnt be able to do the sequential injection, enless you could maybe use some of the axillary outputs. either way on there website it says theres small benefit to emissions but not to power, an it much more complicated to set up.

thanks for the compliments!

Ralph

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Posted 21/8/2009 3:44 AM (#525680 - in reply to #525676)
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ralphh85 - 21/8/2009 9:15 AM

as said will be my only car, i would hate to spend so much time building a fast road car, an then only drive it on the odd sunday!

emerald only has 4 injector drivers i think, so wouldnt be able to do the sequential injection, enless you could maybe use some of the axillary outputs. either way on there website it says theres small benefit to emissions but not to power, an it much more complicated to set up.

thanks for the compliments!

Ralph

I was looking at my mates LS1 engined cossie thats on emerald, you are right, it has four injector drivers, so you fire cyl No. 1 and 6, 8+5, 4+7, 3+2. but still better than all 8 at once. The ign drivers give you a choice of single coil, twin distributers, and twin coils(wasted spark). His ecu has got a glitch with it atm, insofar that you can get it running mint, turn the engine off and then when you restart it the idle speed is ok, but the site window is skipping around the screen. He's getting it sorted this week. We think its got swine flu.

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Posted 21/8/2009 5:02 AM (#525692 - in reply to #525680)
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Dave VVC - 21/8/2009 9:44 AM

I'm sure the emmerald has 8 injector drivers but only 3 coil drivers? I have seen an emmerald running a car with 4 regular injectors and 4 more shower head injectors, made great power and torque with 8 inch inlet trumpets. There is a guy over on the ZS forum who has got emmerald to modify the ECU for 6 coild by changing the injection amplifiers for coil amplifiers (will be running 3 injection drivers and 6 coils on a V6).

You can always run an external Coil driver bringing you up to 4 for wasted spark.

EDIT, its got 6 injector drivers so can run 8 in batched fire mode but only has 3 coil drivers so wont work on a V8 without a dizzy cap. http://www.emeraldm3d.com/em_k3.html

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Posted 21/8/2009 7:37 AM (#525696 - in reply to #525692)
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Dave VVC - 21/8/2009 9:44 AM

I think it depends on the version of emerald for the coil drivers, part of the hiccup with my mates ecu was, at start, when I was trimming the AFR at idle (he had it on 12.5:1), I had it running really sweet at 14.8:1, in the setup, the ecu had 3 coil drivers but had a note saying that version 1.4 had a extra driver, so that was ok as he was running 4 coils-wasted spark, when the ecu threw a wobbly, I looked at the setup again and it only had 3 coil drivers and that the version was 1.3, try to start it and it was spitting, backfiring etc, I take a look at coil firing sequence and its '0-180-0-180', I could have sworn at the start I saw '0-90-180-270', we tried this and other combinations but no joy, so my mate was going to send the ecu back as it may be currupted. You are right about the extra injector drive, I'd forgotton about that.

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Posted 21/8/2009 9:26 AM (#525701 - in reply to #407590)
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on my wiring details they sent me its got it with 4 drivers, so as you say firing 1&6, 2&3, 4&7, 5&8.

that will do fine for me.

just need to sus out which temp sensors im using for what as what i can gather the v8 has 3.

Ralph

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Posted 21/8/2009 6:28 PM (#525737 - in reply to #525701)
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ralphh85 - 21/8/2009 3:26 PM

on my wiring details they sent me its got it with 4 drivers, so as you say firing 1&6, 2&3, 4&7, 5&8.

that will do fine for me.

just need to sus out which temp sensors im using for what as what i can gather the v8 has 3.

Ralph

Air temp and coolant temp, the one with 2 terminals, as the one with 1 terminal only drives the gauge.

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Posted 26/8/2009 11:17 AM (#526213 - in reply to #407590)
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been trying to get stuff ready for fitment of the emerald which should be here on friday, hopefully.

got a crank position sensor, but i didnt for see the sump being in the way of it, so i have removed the sump and am going to modify it a little to clear.

in the long run im going to make an alloy sump, which should be lighter, and i will make it slightly smaller, to reduce more weight (only 5L of oil not 6) and also give tad more ground clearence.

just about all i have done in the last week.

Ralph

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Posted 26/8/2009 1:14 PM (#526234 - in reply to #407590)
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Making your own sump! SWEEEEET!

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Posted 26/8/2009 2:48 PM (#526249 - in reply to #407590)
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well the sumps alone is a good 4-5 KG, so it would be easy to lose maybe 2-3KG, which is a good bit of weight loss.

anyway modded my sump today, an it fits. gonna get all the measurements i need to make a new one so that when i have nothing more important to do i will do that. so probly this weekend lol.

Ralph

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Posted 26/8/2009 5:53 PM (#526282 - in reply to #407590)
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I would factor in some anti-surge baffles, seeing as the engine
is transverse. Be a shame to run the bearings after all the work
so far.

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Posted 27/8/2009 3:47 AM (#526294 - in reply to #407590)
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i think landrover have done quite well in that aspect, if you look at that first pic then you can see theres only a small ish hole going in to the dip of the sump, everything bellow that hole is full of oil so theres very limited surge possible, nothing would stop oil getting to the pick up enless you very very low on oil.

Ralph

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Posted 27/8/2009 7:45 AM (#526310 - in reply to #407590)
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Look forward to seeing this beast running on emerald soon

How long until its done and are you going to drive it rat look (as is) or take the time to paint it fully before making it road going again?

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Posted 27/8/2009 11:54 AM (#526338 - in reply to #407590)
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Ralph...have you timed the crank sensor to the flywheel dowel location?

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Posted 27/8/2009 3:20 PM (#526375 - in reply to #526338)
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AdrianSi - 27/8/2009 4:54 PM

Ralph...have you timed the crank sensor to the flywheel dowel location?

nope, still trying to work out where TDC is on the flywheel, emerald can be adjusted to any angle anyway tho.

Ralph

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Posted 27/8/2009 5:38 PM (#526415 - in reply to #526375)
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ralphh85 - 27/8/2009 9:20 PM

AdrianSi - 27/8/2009 4:54 PM

Ralph...have you timed the crank sensor to the flywheel dowel location?

nope, still trying to work out where TDC is on the flywheel, emerald can be adjusted to any angle anyway tho.

Ralph

Of course it can... sorry was thinking about issues with std mems and crank sensor positions

Have you got the demo version of Emerald software... can run it on a simulated engine and get access to flywheel configs etc.

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Posted 27/8/2009 5:41 PM (#526416 - in reply to #526375)
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ralphh85 - 27/8/2009 9:20 PM
nope, still trying to work out where TDC is on the flywheel, emerald can be adjusted to any angle anyway tho.

Ralph

Did you get the tacho working yet? Have got a chip that can halve the pulses.

Jon

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Posted 27/8/2009 11:55 AM (#526339 - in reply to #407590)
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bloody dp!

Edited by AdrianSi 27/8/2009 11:57 AM

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Posted 27/8/2009 5:44 PM (#526417 - in reply to #407590)
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Posted 28/8/2009 2:52 AM (#526431 - in reply to #407590)
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thread will start working shortly i expect.

tacho will be fine emerald will do that for me, it has a multiplier so you can set it to 0.5 in this case.

they sent me the software but i havent had a chance to look yet, the ecu will be here today anyway so soon will be able to look at it properly.

Ralph

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Posted 30/8/2009 3:50 AM (#526593 - in reply to #407590)
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got loads done yesterday, got the sump back on, which took about 3 hours! last person thought they where clever an fitted the sump with no gasket an just silicone sealent, so it was leaking, an took me ages to clean the engine surface up, refitted it with a proper cork gasket.

i replaced a core plug which started leaking the other day which was also bit of a bastard.

an most interestingly i fitted a later range rover coil pack, which has allowed me to lose the old coil, and remove the dizzy an replace it with a dizzy stalk to drive the oil pump. when i build next engine i will use the later type front cover which doesnt have the dizzy hole and has a crank driven oil pump, this should waste less power which should be goign to the wheels not turning pointless cogs. the fuel presure regulator will need to be moved to as it was in the way of the coil pack.

emerald has probably lost me 3kg, so thats a result in itself.

Ralph

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Posted 30/8/2009 4:41 AM (#526595 - in reply to #407590)
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Another advantage of coil packs, they look nicer than a dizzy setup

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Posted 31/8/2009 4:02 PM (#526827 - in reply to #407590)
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got HT leads all on, and more importantly started getting the emerald wired up, just need to get wires to connect the coilpack and a few connectors an it should be running..... again!

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Posted 6/9/2009 4:17 PM (#527548 - in reply to #407590)
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good few hours in the garage today.

i fitted the sump the other day but after i remembered i hadnt leak tested it! opps, filled her up with oil today an it had 2 tiny leaks, i drip had formed in a few mins, so i cleaned it up an put some belzona (chemical metal) over the leaking weld lol. i will make up a new sump int he long run.

got exhaust fitted to, an the new core plug was more successful an didnt leak.

more excitingly i finished wiring everything but the crank sensor (help needed see tech section), an got the emerald in place. it looks good, R200 wiper plug fitted the coil, so thanks for heads up on that one.

re routed the fuel return an almost finished the fuel supply but not quite.

just need a laptop or something to program the ecu now, either need laptop with a serial port or a serial to usb adaptor which i had but cant find..... an 10m of usb extensions! need to get the car pc fitted really as that has serial port on it.

Ralph

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Posted 6/9/2009 4:32 PM (#527549 - in reply to #407590)
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looking realy very good ralph

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Posted 9/9/2009 2:25 PM (#527843 - in reply to #407590)
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update, tho no pics.

eventually got pc connected to ecu, and eventually sussed out there program, an got things set up as they should. alot of f**king about with different flywheel patterns, the crank sensor pins, an other settings int he ecu.

now the ecu knows the throttle pot %, it knows when the engines cranking an its rpm.

it wont start but i have not worked out the location of the crank sensor in relation to TDC yet, made more difficult by the flywheel not being at any specific place either, so will have to take that in to consideration.

but im a step closer, an should be able to work out where TDC/crank sensor is tomorrow which means it MIGHT start!!

Ralph

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take plug 1 out and stick a screwdriver down the hole, when it's at the top of the stroke, thats tdc

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Posted 9/9/2009 3:07 PM (#527846 - in reply to #407590)
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yeah finding where the engines TDC is easy, but i need to know at how many degree's BTDC the sensor reads TDC, bearing in mind the sensor will not read TDC at the real TDC.

once its good enough to start you can fine tune it in emerald with a timing light as you can set the ignition timing to a pre determined degrees BTDC, measure with a timign light, an then update emerald to get it right.

Ralph

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Posted 9/9/2009 5:50 PM (#527868 - in reply to #527846)
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ralphh85 - 9/9/2009 9:07 PM

yeah finding where the engines TDC is easy, but i need to know at how many degree's BTDC the sensor reads TDC, bearing in mind the sensor will not read TDC at the real TDC.

once its good enough to start you can fine tune it in emerald with a timing light as you can set the ignition timing to a pre determined degrees BTDC, measure with a timign light, an then update emerald to get it right.

Ralph

Cant you take the sensor out and see when the gap appears in realtion to tdc?, you should be
near enough within 5 deg at least.

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Posted 10/9/2009 3:50 AM (#527884 - in reply to #407590)
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yup, was thinking of sticking a protractor tot he end pulley, then turning it till i see the markings, as you say will be within a few degree's.

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Posted 20/9/2009 2:02 PM (#528927 - in reply to #407590)
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Any progress on this Ralph?

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Posted 21/9/2009 2:53 AM (#528954 - in reply to #407590)
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yeah, but nothing interesting.

emerald have got my ecu an are bench testing it.

i have a voltage coming from the crank sensor, same voltage at the ecu connector but yet the ecu isnt doing anything, dare i say it i suspect somethings gone on the ecu, hopefully they will sort it out, kinda have a bad feeling they are just gonna tell me its fine an send it back as that will get them off the hook cause its very hard for me to prove its the ecu.

so should know in a few days.

Ralph

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yeah, but nothing interesting.

emerald have got my ecu an are bench testing it.

i have a voltage coming from the crank sensor, same voltage at the ecu connector but yet the ecu isnt doing anything, dare i say it i suspect somethings gone on the ecu, hopefully they will sort it out, kinda have a bad feeling they are just gonna tell me its fine an send it back as that will get them off the hook cause its very hard for me to prove its the ecu.

so should know in a few days.

Ralph

ECU is plug compatible with the K series so to proove a point just find someone with a 120 bhp 1.8 R200/mgf etc and plug it in, you'll have to laod the map but it will prove the ECU and the maps are easily downloadable.

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Posted 21/9/2009 9:39 AM (#528991 - in reply to #528989)
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ECU is plug compatible with the K series so to proove a point just find someone with a 120 bhp 1.8 R200/mgf etc and plug it in, you'll have to laod the map but it will prove the ECU and the maps are easily downloadable.

very good point, pitty didnt think of that before i posted it, i have a friend with a 120bhp elise.

Ralph

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Posted 21/9/2009 8:46 AM (#528982 - in reply to #407590)
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lets hope they own up to it buddy will still be coming to see this even if im metro less lol.

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Posted 21/9/2009 9:36 AM (#528990 - in reply to #407590)
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phoned them, said they will try an get it back to me by the end of the week.

dont wanna bad mouth them to much as i dont know them that well, but it pisses me off when service drops once you have paid/got product.

Ralph

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Posted 26/9/2009 3:48 PM (#529624 - in reply to #528990)
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phoned them, said they will try an get it back to me by the end of the week.

dont wanna bad mouth them to much as i dont know them that well, but it pisses me off when service drops once you have paid/got product.

Ralph

Understand your feelings, and I'm with you, but if you didn't know they're *essentially* a one man band as far as I understand it. They're definately nowhere near the size of any of the other main ECU people, and TBH my experience with large companies through work is they can be even worse. Once you phone a support line and get a set of options it's all downhill....

Great car BTW.

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Posted 23/9/2009 12:11 PM (#529238 - in reply to #407590)
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not the interesting update i been waiting for but all the same........

the panels which cover the engine, for thoes who aint read, are made from 25mm insulation foam, with fibreglass either side, can be seen in orange on the top.

i have covered the engine side in insulation foily stuff, then run ali foil tape round the edge which meets the cars seal bit. then carpeted the interior side. both foil/carpet where self adhesive.

looks real smart, once the metal is done to you wouldnt know there was a v8 hiding under there

should be very sound/heat insulating to which is main thing. also very strong.

Ralph

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Posted 5/10/2009 7:49 PM (#530726 - in reply to #407590)
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Any progress Ralph? ben a while.

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Posted 6/10/2009 3:51 AM (#530741 - in reply to #407590)
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yeah my ecu aint working! (see technical section).

so i pretty much done nothing in the last month!

slowly getting there tho i think.

Ralph

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Posted 12/11/2009 7:44 AM (#534957 - in reply to #407590)
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just to let you know its not forgotten, i think i have sussed the emerald issue, and i got it to run yesterday, so hopefully this could be the break i need to go an get it mapped.

bit of luck i can kick start the project again as its been slow lately!

Ralph

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Posted 13/11/2009 3:34 PM (#535085 - in reply to #407590)
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Look forward to seeing some more progress on this!

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keep ya pekka up mate cant wait or next bunch of picys

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Posted 15/11/2009 3:50 AM (#535182 - in reply to #407590)
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Good news

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Posted 29/11/2009 3:13 AM (#536515 - in reply to #407590)
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booked in for a mapping session on a local ish rolling road.

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Posted 16/12/2009 2:59 PM (#537850 - in reply to #407590)
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got it looking car like, shit photos, might go take another in a mo, but got all glass back in, got thw trackign kinda ok, the wheels are going in the right ish direction now anyway.

its spending its first night tomorrow night out of the garage on the road ready to be trailed off to SRD who are going to map the emerald ecu for me, all goign well within a few days i may have it back running, which would amke it drivable, even tho it will still need a fare bit more work to get everythign correct, but i need to drive it to fidn the problems.

Ralph

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Posted 17/12/2009 11:35 AM (#537910 - in reply to #407590)
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That looks so badass, love the cutdown speaker supports, will you have a cut down parcelshelf aswell?

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Posted 17/12/2009 1:02 PM (#537921 - in reply to #407590)
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wonder if you would even remotely be able to hear the music from two 10cm speakers in those speaker supports

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Posted 17/12/2009 1:41 PM (#537928 - in reply to #407590)
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Its been a long way but thats really looking like something now

Just need to carpet the engine cover

SLeeeeeeper

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Posted 18/12/2009 12:24 PM (#538007 - in reply to #537928)
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lol it wont have any speakers int he back, will have my genesis A16's int he front and im plannign to find somewhere for a sub, i might be able to build a sub box in tot he top shelf as i think theres enough room above the gearbox, of course it would be hidden under carpet!

anyway update, planned yto gte the mappign started today, after about 3 hours we got it running, basically the map was miles out, but once we got it runnign it was missing on cylinders 2 and 3, which obviously share an ignition driver, after thinkign it was the coil pack for them we drove round tryignt o get another, tho everyone was on lunch, so we wnt back an did further check which prooved the coil pack was good, (swaped 2 coil packs) and problem persisted on cyl 2 and 3.

eventually guessed it had to be the ecu, lookign through the settings came back across the bit which says, ignition driver 4, (requires hardware 1.4), i dont have hardware V1.4! i have brought this up with emerald before an they said i probly did but maybe they didnt fill int he box that says it has 1.4!!

basically if you pull the ht leads of the coil packs, they all spark tot he body but 2 and 3 dont, tho it still gives a small spark at the spark plug, i think hardware v1.3 doesnt have as good mosfet on this output, so tho it sparks it aint good enough.

bit pissed off with emerald, an will be very fuycked off if they dont get it sorted beofre xmas! cause now i have bought it they are gonna want to charge me 50 for an upgrade which would have been free ar the beggining!

but progress has been made, it runs! just only on 6cyl!

Ralph

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Posted 18/12/2009 5:08 PM (#538039 - in reply to #407590)
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glad to hear you have finally come so long that it is time to get it mapped, it must be very exciting!
but very annoying with those emerald guys. I understand your frustratation.

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Posted 18/12/2009 5:52 PM (#538043 - in reply to #407590)
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Wow, emerald do seem to know how to take the piss!

Surely it should be a free upgrade if its what you asked for in the first place?!

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Posted 19/12/2009 5:27 AM (#538061 - in reply to #407590)
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Yeah if they said it will work on a V8 and it does not then they should fix it free. This is another nail in the coffin for me and emmerald as all I hear now is bad reports. Unless you have a 4 pot K series then they seam to fail a lot.

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Posted 19/12/2009 9:36 AM (#538082 - in reply to #407590)
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yea it was very nice to hear it run, even if only on 6 cyl, big relief an feels like a step forward.

well sent ecu off today so should be with them on monday, will see what they say, they will probly say it would work fine if i was to use a dizzy/coil setup, but i know i told them i was gonna upgrade to coilpacks anyway.

i think emerald are probly a good company, just over stretched, i think they are always very busy, an not really got enough time.

i guess what happened is the woman i spoke to didnt put down that i was upgrading to coilpacks, but still i would think it would be clever to have 4 ignition drivers for any V8 application.

we will see, they may pull through yet......

Ralph

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Posted 8/1/2010 5:30 PM (#539424 - in reply to #407590)
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Back on track,

no pics as i left camera in back of the car at the rollers but....

all mapped, not 100% as he said he would really need to drive the car to totally finish all settings.

he estimated it was 175-180 bhp at flywheel, and it sounded bloody awesome! its not a paticuly hi teck dyno i dont think.

had few issues, only main problem is i have a clutch issue, its not fully releasing, and im not sure why, maybe spacing between flywheel/clutch/realease bearing i guess, but will get to the bottom of it soon.

hopefully picking it up tomorrow to bring it back home.

Ralph

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Posted 9/1/2010 4:42 PM (#539449 - in reply to #407590)
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not sure if embedded vid will work but...

failign that...... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-SIILJZz30E

when i go over to the display i think it was only on about 80bhp, most i saw read out was 150 at the wheels but wasnt watching all the time. audio doesnt do it justice!

few pics, including its sorry cold state when i first went up there, after it had been outside over christmas

Ralph

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Posted 9/1/2010 6:01 PM (#539450 - in reply to #407590)
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that sounds mental

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Posted 10/1/2010 2:05 AM (#539455 - in reply to #539450)
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Mutts - 9/1/2010 11:01 PM

that sounds mental

thanks

tho seriously it doesnt sound very V8 like in that, in the flesh its way better, i think it was to loud to for the cameras mic.

Ralph

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Posted 28/1/2010 12:05 PM (#541215 - in reply to #407590)
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well its moved up the food chain slightly, i have fitted a 3/4 inch clutch master cylinder and now the clutch works (but is making some bad sounds see teck section) i spun the rear wheels in the garage anyway and nothing catastrophic happened lol, hopefully get it out the garage and "road" test it tomorrow or ont he weekend weather dependent.

the clutch slave cylinder now moved further and was pushing the piston slightly out of the cylinder, so i made a longer and of course stainless steel (anyone want one?) rod for it...

Ralph

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Posted 28/1/2010 2:23 PM (#541247 - in reply to #407590)
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Have you allowed for the slave piston to retreat further into the slave cyl to
allow for clutch wear when the cover fingers move futher out against the release
bearing?.

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Posted 29/1/2010 1:00 AM (#541271 - in reply to #407590)
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should be plenty, it had 40mm of travel and im using about 25mm, surely its never going to retreat further tho as the springs release so theres no presure on them anyway??

praying for good weather tonight!!

Ralph

edit, think i see what you mean now, so really i should have it so its coming right to the end of the cylinder now with new clutch, i will look in to it but its easy to shorten my rod anyway, but either way i got many other probs to solve first!

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Posted 30/1/2010 4:13 AM (#541342 - in reply to #407590)
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Looking good Ralph! Seems odd to see a metro on the rollers that way round! Is that rolling road is Launceston?

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Posted 30/1/2010 10:52 AM (#541373 - in reply to #541342)
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Metromartin - 30/1/2010 9:13 AM

Looking good Ralph! Seems odd to see a metro on the rollers that way round! Is that rolling road is Launceston?

yep SRD. mark shilibar runs it, he knows my brother which is handy, strongly recomend him.

anyway good news, just took it for a road test

was short but sweet, got down the hill, a power wire came off which brought me to a stand still, bodged it back in and came back, but its an animal! once you pass 2.5k its off, has brutal amounts of power!

anyway got a list of things to do so should have it a bit more sorted soon and ready for next road test, will try an film it next time as was dark this time.

Ralph

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Posted 1/2/2010 1:13 PM (#541735 - in reply to #541373)
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well was busy on this on sunday and briefly today, on weekend i replaced 2 more core plugs which where leaking very slightly, got alternator wires on properly, and sorted the exhaust mounts out, needs slight modification but then the exhaust wont hit anything without being pushed hard, and hopefully the rubber wont move up and melt like it did on the rolling road!

today i replaced the 3 f**ked pads with 4 new ones, and apologized to the disc and piston lol, and filled it with water again, hopefully it wont leak now.

all i need to do it fix the water pipes up under the car a bit better as one was dinging against the floor, and it will be ready for a next hopefully more extensive road test.

Ralph

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Posted 4/2/2010 2:06 PM (#542194 - in reply to #407590)
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as my water pipes where rattleing ont he under side of the car i sorted that out today, i made up a highly over engineered spacer with weight reducing holes in it lol, to go behind the blue plastic double pipe holder, cable tied the rear ones up slightly.

and a few random under car shots, weather supposed to be good sat so hopefully give it a better test run.

Ralph

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Posted 5/2/2010 3:13 AM (#542250 - in reply to #407590)
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looks good underneath. looks like you have though it through

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Posted 5/2/2010 5:12 AM (#542260 - in reply to #407590)
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glad it looks that way

lol, nah have mostly thought it through, and tried to fit stuff in where it looks right, i hope one day it will look as standard fitment as possible, you know, im surprised rover never did it

Ralph

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Posted 5/2/2010 5:19 AM (#542262 - in reply to #542260)
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ralphh85 - 5/2/2010 12:12 AM

glad it looks that way

lol, nah have mostly thought it through, and tried to fit stuff in where it looks right, i hope one day it will look as standard fitment as possible, you know, im surprised rover never did it

Ralph

your right, when someone at MG (allthough not a part of rover back then) had the brilliant idea of fitting the Rover V8 to the MGB, why not a metro also

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Posted 6/2/2010 5:47 AM (#542355 - in reply to #407590)
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give it some more shit today, i still got one rattle which i need to sort, but it was a hole load better, tracking is all miles out, it held straight very well under power but went a bit flouty when i lifted off the throttle. once again vids dont do it justice, sounds well good.

front suspensions way to soft, need harder springs and opposite on the rear, when i boot it you can feel the front rise up, kinda weird when sitting in a metro lol. however my mates bought £800 worth of corner weight scales so can get it weighed at some point, and get correct spring rate springs.

was fun tho

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d3TZES-fAbs

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V0zu_Vskb7c&feature=channel

Ralph

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Posted 6/2/2010 3:02 PM (#542387 - in reply to #407590)
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Lol! looks well good Ralph. It sounds like something out of an american movie! Don't suppose you had an MOT did ya?

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Posted 7/2/2010 2:42 AM (#542402 - in reply to #407590)
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i think thats the best noise ive ever heard a metro make !!!

this car is an insperation.

well done !

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Posted 7/2/2010 6:26 AM (#542413 - in reply to #407590)
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thanks for the comments guys, have to say one big reason for fitting a V8 in rather than the multitude of similar power mostly turbo engines etc etc is the noise and the novelty value of just having a V8 in it!

i was surprised at how well it drove really, it still feels like a metro oddly, but in a good way and it never felt stupid or anything, which means it will defiantly be fine with a cammed up 3.9 with ported heads

just needs all the wheels aligning and definatly fit the new type B diff rather than the type A which it has now. type A was better in the front but i think type b is the tool for this one, also will put less strain on my currently cut an welded drive shafts!

Ralph

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Posted 14/2/2010 2:06 PM (#543236 - in reply to #407590)
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few pics, got my speedo drive from the front wheel almost sorted, thinking of this was a result as it means i dont need a massive mgf speedo drive cable which is lighter less wasteful and fits better, also will be calibrated perfectly for somewhere between toyo road pro 185/55 size and the yoko 175/50 tyre size, so will be more accurate than the usual PG1 conversion, being 1:1 drive ratio.

cold air feed in place, should mean it gets cold air even if the engine bay is fairly hot, spoke to emerald the other day and i can run a mgf cooling fan and engine bay temp gauge from my ecu with no upgrades needed to if i have a heat problem back there.

Ralph

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Posted 14/2/2010 3:48 PM (#543255 - in reply to #407590)
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Impressive stuff with the speedo.

Loving how it stll look like any other austin metro with cross spoke alloys!! People will be able to hear a V8 in traffic and never know where its comming from lol!!

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love this car matey 1 of the best about imo good job

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Posted 15/2/2010 11:29 PM (#543352 - in reply to #407590)
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Fantastic engineering work Ralph! Making full use of the water jet cutting still

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Posted 16/2/2010 3:56 AM (#543363 - in reply to #407590)
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thanks for the comments, waterjet cutter beats sticking paper templates on and grinding/drilling/filling around them....

Ralph

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You'll have to keep a log of the parts you made, and make your own part numbers for the amount of one off bits you've produced!

Top job though, whens it in for paint ?

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Posted 17/2/2010 3:14 AM (#543447 - in reply to #543395)
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cerbera - 16/2/2010 6:39 PM

You'll have to keep a log of the parts you made, and make your own part numbers for the amount of one off bits you've produced!

Top job though, whens it in for paint ?

That'll be handy for when people want to order them for their own conversions

Still.. a list of all the custom bits you've cut/made/fettled may not be a bad idea..

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Posted 16/2/2010 1:07 PM (#543400 - in reply to #407590)
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i got all the drawings, i started a new job in our database at work and its so big it takes minutes to load lol. probly a few hundred profiles.

its in for paint after it passes MOT and by bank balance recovers from its shock. will be very nice to have it looking like a standard smart metro clubman tho

its just such a pitty i couldnt retain the old a series wheels and hubcaps, i have been wondering if i could get some 13inch maestro hubcaps to fit wide gta steels. then it really would look sleeper on the outside.

update, speedo drive is finished just need a cable, and im gonna weight it on my friends corner weight scales and get the tracking/camber/caster lined up this weekend.

Ralph

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Posted 17/2/2010 3:37 AM (#543450 - in reply to #407590)
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threads f**king up again.....

as you can see by the scroll bar this is not even half of the parts used, often there are several profiles for one mount, im gonna try an export the hole job an take it home for safe keeping i think lol. at any future time i can cut more or send the drawings off and get them cut.

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Posted 17/2/2010 7:22 AM (#543472 - in reply to #543450)
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Ralph you can get centre caps to fit the Gta wide steelies

I've got a set off ebay for future sleeper projects! Freddie used some on his satin black metro I think!?

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Posted 17/2/2010 7:42 AM (#543481 - in reply to #407590)
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i have a set of them center caps to but idealy i would have the full size hubcaps like what the car had originally, which are very similar to maestro ones. need wide steels first tho.

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Posted 17/2/2010 7:46 AM (#543482 - in reply to #407590)
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Ralph my hat off to that is some customisation and a half nice to see that you done it

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Posted 17/2/2010 8:26 AM (#543490 - in reply to #407590)
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Yup and ive still got em

They were pretty damn cheap on ebay and looked awesome imho!

Love this car, cant wait to see it resprayed for the ultimate sleeper look!

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Posted 17/2/2010 8:28 AM (#543492 - in reply to #407590)
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its not done yet lol. i hope i will be MOTing it soonish tho, if nothing goes wrong then in the next month, and i would like to have it working properly by the end of march.
once its MOTed i will use it and save up for a respray, make new tubular subframes, build a new 3.9L engine, have new drive shafts made up.......... the list goes on....

Ralph

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Posted 17/2/2010 8:44 AM (#543497 - in reply to #407590)
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a set of these wheel trims over wide steels would be perfect...

i think they are 13 inch to.

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Posted 21/2/2010 9:20 AM (#544027 - in reply to #407590)
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Good news....

took it over mates house today, or his garage, put it on his £800 corner weight scales, an i was very impressed, it was almost perfect corner to corner, 1% out from the diagonals.

it was only 2kg out side to side, so its almost perfect balance (without driver), and its almost exactly 60/40 weight distribution front to rear.

we had a little bet, i said it would be 900kg, and it turned out it was 897kg!! which is a result, it will probably get 30ish kg lighter in the next few years as further parts get sorted.

did some work on the brakes and they are much better now, it drove a complete dream, all controls are beautiful, steering and brakes are pretty light which is great considering its has no servo assistance on any of it. only major fault is the front springs are WAY to soft, they are 250LB and im gonna go up to 400LB.

did about 15 miles and tock it up to about 100mph and it got there pretty swiftly, mate who was in it said it was tad quicker than his elise.

hopefully get it booked in for MOT probly next week. chatted to a local tester whos in to hotrods an i asked if it was the kinda thing he wouldnt mind testing, an he said nah not at all i got a 4.0L kitten over there an he looked forward to seeing it!

measured tracking and got that all setup pretty good, i think rears towed in slightly and front towed out slightly which is apparently whats best for mid engine rwd.

got few more bits to do now but she will be up and taking me to work very soon i hope!

Result!!

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Posted 21/2/2010 1:24 PM (#544059 - in reply to #407590)
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pics of display with otu and then with me in the car.

yes i know, its not just the car which is a bit fat

Ralph

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Posted 21/2/2010 2:28 PM (#544071 - in reply to #407590)
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Now thats one helluva car

Love reading thru this journal, such an epic bit of work

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Posted 21/2/2010 2:39 PM (#544074 - in reply to #407590)
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looks like all the details are coming together which is good to see

such a corner weight set would be so nice to have. I would really like to try setting up the A series with something like that. bet you cant weight to have the rest sorted and drive it on a daily basis

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Posted 23/2/2010 2:53 PM (#544302 - in reply to #407590)
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got the catch on the rear panel, the lid has a bit which clicks in which most will reconise as a rear seat catch, works really well, almost feels to got for a home brew car!

got the speedo drive cable routed as i want it to the frotn wheel, much neater, and blanked off the old speedo drive with the lightest possible blank.

next up is...

mgf lower ball joints ont he rear to give a bit of negetive camber,
ordered 400lb springs for the front, and need to rase damping alot.
carpet and foil top cover and bars which are next to it.

then just need 2 new tyres and an MOT! also after a red band rack (anyone got one going??)

int he pipe line are light weight rocker cover/plenum with maybe a roller barrel throttle body! and also makign a smaller capacity sump which should be lighter to.

Ralph

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Posted 28/2/2010 1:23 PM (#544914 - in reply to #407590)
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i finished my top panel today and carpeted/silver foiled the bottom, with the window in and the cover being black its hard to see any modifaction cause all you see is a reflection cause its dark inside. ace for the sleeper effect.

got 400lb springs on the front, i have done 1 ball joint and turned car round to do other side.

next up,

other ball joint/track rod end (on rear)
carpet remaining white bars
make extra light weight parcel shelf
sort out body work slightly more

and MOT

ow also sorted out a cad drawing of the mold im gonna make to make carbon or glass fibre rocker covers for the v8, should save me at least 2kg.

Ralph

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Posted 28/2/2010 1:31 PM (#544915 - in reply to #407590)
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absolutely brilliant!

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Posted 28/2/2010 4:51 PM (#544938 - in reply to #407590)
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this just gets better everytime

please sell me some carbon fibre rockers

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Posted 7/3/2010 11:36 AM (#545600 - in reply to #407590)
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aint had a hole load to do as need new tyres before MOT, so been mostly doing stuff to the interior. carpeted few more bits in the back and waiting on carpet before i can do the rest. also managed to get black parcel shelf supports, and black strips which hold carpet down by the sills.

been looking at making super light weight door cards, doors are a place i would like to lose some weight off, probably cut away some of the inner door which is behind the door card to.

Ralph

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Posted 8/3/2010 1:33 PM (#545742 - in reply to #407590)
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in the name of weight reduction i removed the seat rail thing, and replaced it with a few little ali spacers, rather like what the mk1 metro had, but mine are ali so lighter! i also made them slightly shorted to drop the seat down a bit.

Ralph

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Posted 8/3/2010 1:42 PM (#545745 - in reply to #407590)
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also fitted poly carb rear 1/4 window, just need to do other side and hopefully gonna do a rear window to at some point. only let down with rear window is it wont have a heating element.

Ralph

edit, i managed to curve the window so that when fitted it doesnt look flat, it being very clean in the only give away its not a standard glass window.

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Posted 9/3/2010 4:02 AM (#545802 - in reply to #545745)
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also fitted poly carb rear 1/4 window, just need to do other side and hopefully gonna do a rear window to at some point. only let down with rear window is it wont have a heating element.

Ralph

edit, i managed to curve the window so that when fitted it doesnt look flat, it being very clean in the only give away its not a standard glass window.

I've fitted restraining wires to my rear window just in case it decides to part company if I
open the door window at speed!!

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Posted 8/3/2010 1:44 PM (#545746 - in reply to #407590)
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Heating element on a perspex window! dont worry, I had mine in the winter and they never really frosted like glass windows do!

Car looks mint, I normally ditch that seat support completely as its more comfortable without the height!

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Posted 9/3/2010 4:31 AM (#545803 - in reply to #407590)
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lol good point dave, tho i shoudlnt think it would, after i cut out a rear window i think i might do some tests on a quite road at high speed!

is there much negetive presure behind the car? my engine bay is positive presure cause before my engine cover was fixed down as soon as i did 20-30mph it was flouting up. all sealed now so no more problems of that lol.

in fact thinking back to it opening the window caused the cover to lift so would appear that opening the window would bring presure in car down slightly...

Ralph

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Posted 9/3/2010 4:43 AM (#545806 - in reply to #545803)
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lol good point dave, tho i shoudlnt think it would, after i cut out a rear window i think i might do some tests on a quite road at high speed!

is there much negetive presure behind the car? my engine bay is positive presure cause before my engine cover was fixed down as soon as i did 20-30mph it was flouting up. all sealed now so no more problems of that lol.

in fact thinking back to it opening the window caused the cover to lift so would appear that opening the window would bring presure in car down slightly...

Ralph

I wouldn't take the chance, If mine blows out, then at least its still attached to the car, where It's not too
much trauma to refit it, whereas, if it isn't, you may have to cut a new window out if the old one is too scatched
by road rash or someone driving over it, but more importantly you may take someones head off with it as it's
flying through the air.

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Posted 11/3/2010 3:31 PM (#546221 - in reply to #407590)
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got my extra light weight carbon fibre/foam parcel shelf cut out today, its not very strong but does the job, and most importantly its stupidly light! going to carpet the top, when my carpet arrives from the very slow ebay seller.

also got a nicer engine cover catch sorted, this ones made from leather grain abs plastic so fits in nice with the rest of the plastic parts on the car.

Ralph

edit: also got 2 tyres on the way which are really the final parts needed for MOT.

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Posted 13/3/2010 11:28 AM (#546403 - in reply to #407590)
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braved the pikeys today and went scrappy, got myself some pov spec door mirrors without the remote adjust, as these are lighter, and i really dont mind opening a window to adjust them every month or 2!

tock them appart and cleaned the green shit off them, also copper greased the joints, and got grease on the outside, they just need a back to black treatment now and they will be nice.

also fitted central locking motor tot he drivers door, which now works, which is good cause a locking motor is lighter than the key lock, lockign pin and the rods which i have removed, so more weight gone.

Ralph

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Posted 14/3/2010 12:30 PM (#546512 - in reply to #407590)
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more relativly uninteresting updates as still waiting on the carpet from the super slow ebay seller....

i am de locking it for weight and security reasons, did the drivers door today, and gonna blank off the rear wiper/washer, so i cut myself some blanks which fit the holes.

blanks are available if anyone wants them for a small fee.

also fitted a horn and a metro washer bottle as i think the metro one with clear lid looks better than the mgf blue lid.... piccy aint i lol.

anyone got a lights/indicator stalk??? mines f**ked, horn/hazard dont work and i dont seem to have a spare.

Ralph

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Posted 16/3/2010 2:33 PM (#546781 - in reply to #407590)
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got my yoko A539's fitted today, even tho they are 175, they are same width as a 185, if anything it looks like they could do with a slightly wider rim, unlike the toyo 185 which looked perfectly souted to the std wheel.

they look grippy if thats anything to go by lol.

got some more done on the parcel shelf, and been assured that my carpet is on its way.........

Ralph

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Posted 16/3/2010 2:39 PM (#546784 - in reply to #407590)
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The Yokos are a pretty good everyday tyre, from the little I've driven Dad's GTi since he had them fitted. Still not quite as good as R888's for comp use, but will last a hell of a lot longer.

Coming along nicely there Ralph

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Posted 16/3/2010 5:30 PM (#546810 - in reply to #546784)
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Nice lock plugs you have made there Ralph

Don't you think you should fit a proper twin horn rather than the squeaker, or will you just blip the throttle instead of using the horn

I found the a539's to be good for the first few hundred miles but once they started to wear the wet grip reduced fairly rapidly.

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Posted 16/3/2010 2:58 PM (#546790 - in reply to #407590)
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I have also always used the A539's on my A series. good tire, although only average in the wet in my opinion, but super good in dry weather

by the way. If you fail to find the indicator stalks etc. in the UK I have them here in Denmark

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Posted 16/3/2010 3:05 PM (#546794 - in reply to #546790)
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DotMatrix - 16/3/2010 10:58 PM

I have also always used the A539's on my A series. good tire, although only average in the wet in my opinion, but super good in dry weather

by the way. If you fail to find the indicator stalks etc. in the UK I have them here in Denmark

i bought a new stalk on ebay £33

lol. will put the new one in the mg and put the MG one in the v8. thanks for the offer tho, if you could find a passenger seat to match my MG i would be interested tho! should be in better nick than my drivers seat since you drive on the wrong side of the road lol.

Ralph

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Posted 17/3/2010 2:08 AM (#546814 - in reply to #407590)
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nah i am sticking with the tweeter lol. want everything possible to fit in with its metro appearence. an as you said can alwasy dip the clutch an rev eer up!

will test the tyres out, if they aint up to the job i will use toyos as i found them good.

Ralph

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Posted 17/3/2010 3:00 AM (#546818 - in reply to #407590)
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Im finding the A539's adequate (185/60's)... skip and bounce a bit tho mid corner!

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Posted 19/3/2010 12:21 PM (#547152 - in reply to #407590)
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today made up extra light weight fibreglass/foam door cards, i think it was 200g cloth.

both new weight less than 1 original, so even carpeted they will be half the weight, thats another 1.2kg gone with no loss to comfort, if anythign will keep noise out better than hard board.

just need to carpet them and fit them!

Ralph

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Posted 19/3/2010 2:53 PM (#547171 - in reply to #407590)
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and a carpeted door card.

just need to get something to tape over the door to stop water getting in before i refit the door card.

also still need black window winder and inside door handle if anyone has them??

Ralph

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Posted 20/3/2010 9:35 AM (#547231 - in reply to #407590)
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one door card fitted, the door pocket will go black once i have fitted a bigger speaker, as i wouldnt be able to match the standard colour, so then doors will be completely black. the carpet is also only available in black, and its really good as is very light, also i think it deadens sound a bit more than the old cards.

hazard lights and horn now work, fitted the stick off the mg metro to it, just need to make up a light weight ali horn mount.

also carpeted up tot he rear windows, just need to sort the body work round the old fuel filler and fit the other rear window.

i hope it will be up for MOT either friday or next week. either way theres very little it needs doing now.

Ralph

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Posted 20/3/2010 9:48 AM (#547236 - in reply to #407590)
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other pic wont upload, will do it later........

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Posted 20/3/2010 11:55 AM (#547262 - in reply to #407590)
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they come out well m8.
what type of carpet did you use and how easy was it to shape?

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Posted 20/3/2010 12:10 PM (#547266 - in reply to #407590)
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its just like felty stuff, ideal for this kinda thing. shape the carpet? just cut it with scissors/knife.

Ralph

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Posted 20/3/2010 12:19 PM (#547269 - in reply to #547266)
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shape the carpet?

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is it easy to wrap around corners. shape is the wrong word really

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Posted 20/3/2010 12:40 PM (#547271 - in reply to #407590)
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that looks excellent. where did you get the fiberglass/foam material?

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Posted 21/3/2010 5:54 AM (#547382 - in reply to #407590)
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its easy ish to shape, if you wanted to you could bend it in to 3d shapes.

glass/foam, i work for a waterjet cutting/composite panels company

foam was left over from some skate boards which we made many years ago, so if i hit the door car it will flex rather than break. and was 200g cloth.

Ralph

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Posted 25/3/2010 1:58 PM (#548083 - in reply to #407590)
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some good news which i cant hold back any longer,

cars in for MOT tomorrow

although its obviously not finished totally its ready for mot, it still neds central locking motor in passenger door and boot, and obviously tad bit of body work and painting but i want it moted!

also made a mold to make my extra light weight carbon/glass fibre rocker covers.

Ralph

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Posted 25/3/2010 2:11 PM (#548088 - in reply to #407590)
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YES

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Posted 25/3/2010 4:36 PM (#548130 - in reply to #407590)
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Posted 26/3/2010 12:14 PM (#548203 - in reply to #407590)
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Failed, but only on few things so it was a result over all really,

only thing im not sure on is emissions, CO2 was slightly over at 3.58 (3.5 pass), said he couldnt get it any lower and at one point it was on 11! hydrocarbons was on 1734 (pass 1200). think i need to talk to the mapping chap and also sort a few things out, i got 2 injectors which are wired up on each others driver which might not help....

rear number plate lose
fog light switch not illuminating (no bulb)
apparently the bolts need tightening on 2 of the lower ball joints, (opps).

so not to bad, should all be sorted soon!

Ralph

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Posted 26/3/2010 2:24 PM (#548227 - in reply to #407590)
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not too bad then.

Try putting a brake pipe clamp on the fuel feed to the cold start injector in the plenum as it may be constantly on giving over fueling it. Or look into your injector setup as if yuor on the early injectors they don't like have full 12v and need basically a balast resistor fitting to reduce the voltage so they don't open as much and fully.

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Posted 27/3/2010 3:34 AM (#548285 - in reply to #407590)
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neither, it has a ballast resister and also has no cold start injector as is running on an emerald.

hopefully get closer to the bottom of it today.

Ralph

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Posted 27/3/2010 3:38 AM (#548286 - in reply to #407590)
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Was it mapped for high idle at 14.7 or has it just been mapped for max power?

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Posted 27/3/2010 9:37 AM (#548308 - in reply to #407590)
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i think it ranged from 14.7 at low throttle to 12.something at high throttle, but im not sure, wasnt paying that much attention.

i can always get an MOT friendly map done, will get it running right then worry about it.

Ralph

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Posted 27/3/2010 10:07 AM (#548313 - in reply to #548308)
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ralphh85 - 27/3/2010 3:37 PM

i think it ranged from 14.7 at low throttle to 12.something at high throttle, but im not sure, wasnt paying that much attention.

i can always get an MOT friendly map done, will get it running right then worry about it.

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Yeh, basically, where I worked when we mapped cars we'd map them on the rolling road we hold them at idle and fast idle at 14.7 for emissions purposes!

Its easy to do, wont take long, especially if youve got the software as you could just fuel trim the fast idle and idle while on the emissions test (depends how friendly your MOT tester is

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Posted 2/4/2010 3:54 AM (#549066 - in reply to #407590)
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retest booked, all MOT issues sorted, if i have any emissions trouble i will alter it there.

few weight reduction modifications, cut a load of slots in the rear bumper stiffener, it seemed like pointless dead weight, 0.8kg saved.

Also while i was changing my passenger door as it had a R100 door fitted (which is heavier) i fitted some light weight plates inside the door which sandwich up by the door hinge. made from 6082 T6 ali they are less than 1/4 of the weight of the steel ones, 0.3kg saved, every little helps!

also de locked the passenger door, which saves fraction of weight and mostly better security.

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Posted 2/4/2010 4:13 AM (#549074 - in reply to #407590)
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Would you consider making up some more of the door plates? Good work by the way

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Posted 2/4/2010 6:12 AM (#549089 - in reply to #407590)
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£10 a set posted, will stick them in forsale section to! good if you are weight reducing and need an extra bit less weight.

PM me if interested.

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Posted 6/4/2010 11:32 AM (#549530 - in reply to #407590)
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it Passed its MOT today

was a mission to get it through the emissions test but it was ok in the end, so just need tax an insurance an im on to a winner!

Ralph

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ralphh85 - 6/4/2010 7:32 PM

it Passed its MOT today

was a mission to get it through the emissions test but it was ok in the end, so just need tax an insurance an im on to a winner!

Ralph

Got mine MOTd today as well, such a relief once its out of the way

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Posted 7/4/2010 2:42 PM (#549695 - in reply to #407590)
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i made up a light weight horn mount, going a little far as it only saved 30 grams lol, but new one was less than 1/4 of the old one, and since its pointless weight its all good.

im looking at making up a light weight wiper assembly, like the horn mount would be ali so no rust to which is an added bonus.

my exhaust was slipping out of one of its mounts so i made up a little thing which looks like the standard exhaust thing, worked perfect.

hopefully insuring car tomorrow an going dvla on friday.

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Posted 12/4/2010 1:37 PM (#550324 - in reply to #407590)
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taxed an legal on the road.

cant up load pics as card reader is broke.

been out today with laptop sorting few ecu settings, idle wasnt very good but think its sorted now. need to get the map tweaked on rolling road but want a lambda sensor first, and that aint happening this month!

but its an animal all the same!

Ralph

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Posted 13/4/2010 12:37 PM (#550489 - in reply to #407590)
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few pics of my light weight/pretty wiper motor and modded stainless gear change bit.

after i get thgem a bit better i may be able to sell the wiper motor bodys.

Ralph

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Posted 18/4/2010 2:32 AM (#550977 - in reply to #407590)
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Lambda Sensor, should help get engine tuned up, i got a stainless bung for it to screw in to made up cause i aint welding there mild one to my exhaust.

should have more updates by end of the day.

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Posted 18/4/2010 3:24 AM (#550982 - in reply to #407590)
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dont forget to fit the 100 ohm resistor so you dont kill lc1

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Posted 18/4/2010 9:43 AM (#551001 - in reply to #407590)
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yeah got a few 100ohm resisters, also got the stainless bung thing welded to exhaust today, waiting on emerald to get me some more connector terminals. also will need bit more exhaust wrap.

pic of a glass fibre rocker cover i made up last week, got 2 made up, not sure if i will use these or make cleaner ones as i think there was bit of a reaction between the gelcoat and the mold on this one.

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Posted 18/4/2010 1:39 PM (#551040 - in reply to #551001)
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ralphh85 - 19/4/2010 6:43 AM

pic of a glass fibre rocker cover i made up last week, got 2 made up, not sure if i will use these or make cleaner ones as i think there was bit of a reaction between the gelcoat and the mold on this one.

Ralph

Looks like mould release problems perhaps? What mould release are you using Ralph? Looks good though, but carbon ones would look better

Presume you're using epoxy?

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Posted 18/4/2010 1:08 PM (#551036 - in reply to #407590)
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got bung welded in and re wrapped exhaust, going to paint this one with the sealing spray stuff.

also fitted light weight wiper motor.

Ralph

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Posted 18/4/2010 2:32 PM (#551060 - in reply to #407590)
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used some mold release wax, might have been i didnt buff the wax off properly. nah used some high temp polyester resin, tho the best stuff would have been vinalester as it goes up to 100 deg, so might get some of that and make another few. more expensive tho.

carbon would look nice but im really not fussed, think i will either leave them white or maybe spray them grey/silver to match whats there already, its only really a weight issue not pretty looking.

Ralph

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Posted 18/4/2010 3:01 PM (#551072 - in reply to #551060)
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Wouldn't recommend wax mould release unless you need high temps, have had issues with it not releasing very well. We use a product called safelease, which while it is wax based is very liquid and is a wipe on type thing, and works well (so long as you don't use too much or too little).

Epoxy can go higher than 100ºC, as can some polyesters, but it will be dependent on what gelcoat you're using as well.

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Posted 19/4/2010 2:27 PM (#551251 - in reply to #407590)
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will see what happens witht he rocker covers, just need to test one.

anyway did few bits today, including finish off my light weight stainless bonnet stay lol. made up of waterjet cut ends and 1mm thick tube in middle. saves 0.12 kg

Ralph

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Posted 26/4/2010 1:12 PM (#551975 - in reply to #407590)
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cars back on the road, after its 100 mile service and fitment of air temp and wideband lambda sensor.

also cut out some more light weight bits, about 0.7kg, which is nice cause these (of which some aint finished) and the last door hinge ones will now be saving a kilo. all 6082 T6 ali.

got the lambda sensor weld on nugget thing made up from stainless to.

Ralph

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Posted 27/4/2010 2:22 AM (#552007 - in reply to #407590)
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drive it like its hired

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whats the current weight?

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Posted 27/4/2010 2:52 AM (#552011 - in reply to #407590)
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hard to say but will be weighing it again soon, was 897 last time, might be as little as 890 this time, hope to achieve 800 eventually! trouble is to get good comparisons you need a similar amount of fuel in the car.

Ralph

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Posted 4/5/2010 4:42 AM (#553012 - in reply to #407590)
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i thought it was almost empty last time, an it had about £15 in it this time, an i beat 890KG! just another 89kg to go before my next mile stone. and i still aint fitted my rocker covers/sump or poly carb rear screen.

only other news is i picked up a 3.9 v8 at the weekend which i intend to rebuild with cam/ported heads etc to give me a bit more power, with a bit of luck in the region of 250, and i expect in the region of 230 foot pounds. poor PG1!

Ralph

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Posted 11/5/2010 1:53 PM (#554018 - in reply to #407590)
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well not much progress as such, got the emerald bit more set up, and stripped down my new 3.9 v8, just working out what i need to use the later dizzyless front cover on the older 3.9 engine. think i can get away with the original crank as long as i use a later type cam.

just bought loads of stuff on ebay today so there will be some cool things going in it soon.

Ralph

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Posted 7/6/2010 2:11 PM (#557576 - in reply to #407590)
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bout time for an update.

i fitted a poly carb rear window, and did a few weight reducing bits to the boot lid, it now stays up fine with just 1 gas strut, which is good as more weight loss. it also has remote boot pop, im either going to refit the little handle or blank over it which would be lightest.

also got my weight reduced rear bumper stiffener thing back from powder coating, almost a KG lost.

have mainly been getting the car pc ready to go in, so i can make more of the emerald, setting the ecu up when you can rarely see all the gauges etc is hard, having it always on next to me will make stuff much easier, and will be a step closer to music.

only let down with the emerald software is its not very touch screen friendly, does really need a keyboard as i think its very much aimed at laptop use, so i got a mini keyboard to use.

Ralph

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Posted 7/6/2010 2:41 PM (#557581 - in reply to #407590)
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the polycarb window looks good. was it easy to fit?
do you need the metal bumper thing at all?

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Posted 8/6/2010 1:20 AM (#557627 - in reply to #407590)
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probly could do away with it but you would need a way to hold the number plate light and the bumper on, i will probly look in tot hat another time.

poly carb windows where easy to fit, i have a few rear 1/4 ones i can sell for £40 posted, and another set which has a few scratches (sheet was scratched) £25 posted. no rear screens tho.

Ralph

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Posted 26/6/2010 10:10 AM (#559709 - in reply to #407590)
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got the car pc back working again, was about 2 years ago when i last had it in. tho its not doing music yet as i have no speakers, but it is rigged up to the emerald, which was main reason for getting it in, its real handy to have all the gauges an stuff just a glance away. its helped me diagnose an fix few idle issues, its running pretty smooth. an the touch screen is good when you display a graph. also got a mini usb keyboard hiding under the seat but dont need that enless altering stuff.

it doesnt turn on/off with unlock/lock yet but will soon, but does by pressing buttons on the key fob, i just need to link the auxiliary out puts to lock/unlock to make it automatic.

the rear wash button it also linked directly tot he power button so can be used if it turns off due to no activity (left on with no programs open).

im going to get a little plastic bit made up to replace the wash logo with a little pc logo of some sort.

Ralph

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Posted 9/7/2010 9:03 PM (#561557 - in reply to #407590)
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got an upgraded light weight wiper motor on, this ones got a 1 piece ali body!

not much else, got a mold made so i can make a fibre glass bonnet, no pics of that yet, hopefully buy some new bits next week when i get paid, TVR ported heads hopefully, an a set of harder springs.

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Posted 22/7/2010 10:24 AM (#563471 - in reply to #407590)
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pic of the mold made of a bonnet, just got to clean up a few bits where i have had to fill in holes then im ready to make the fibre glass skin of the bonnet.

its gonna be an expensive 5kg saved but every little helps an everything has to be done!

also just paid for a set of 2nd hand TVR ported cylinder heads for my next engine

Ralph

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Posted 1/8/2010 2:10 PM (#564587 - in reply to #407590)
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TVR Ported cylinder heads! look pretty nice to me, ports nicely blended in, an same with the valve seats, waisted inlet valve stems, bullet valve guides.

not over the top for what im doing but miles better than standard which are a major restriction on power.

taken them apart tonight an will get them cleaned an re lap valves in over next week.

Ralph

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Posted 1/8/2010 5:05 PM (#564598 - in reply to #407590)
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That screen is huuuuuuuuge! Maybe a good idea to mount it tilted slightly towards you Ralph? Id imagoin you get quite alot of glare on the screen?

Always wanted a in car pc hooked up to an ecu

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Posted 2/8/2010 1:19 AM (#564610 - in reply to #407590)
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hes only as wide as a standard head unit handyly, its pretty good from a glare aspect, can read it fine in most conditions, eventually i will get one of the daylight readable ones, but they are coming on for £400!

Ralph

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Posted 14/8/2010 12:07 PM (#566187 - in reply to #407590)
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fitted new clutch slave cylinder today as well as a few boring service type things, only regret it not weight reducing the slave cylinder before fitment, might buy another an mill of some of the excess meat of the casting.

tryign to get a webcam sorted for the car pc so i can get a film of it pulling away at speed.

Ralph

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Posted 14/8/2010 2:03 PM (#566207 - in reply to #407590)
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You want to ditch that airbox and get an ITG carbon fibre Maxogen box, much lighter, and there is too much length to the clutch pipe, more excess weight there for you too

Keep it up but when your sent to collect the party balloons be careful not to float away with them

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Posted 14/8/2010 2:03 PM (#566208 - in reply to #407590)
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good work, looks like an old metro turbo air box?

The slave cylinder is used on the elise too, so a light weight version might be availible already as they are rather heavy. Had one fail on my 600ti.

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Posted 15/8/2010 1:16 PM (#566317 - in reply to #407590)
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yes its a metro turbo one, the ITG one looks good but probably cost a shit load?

cant see any light weight slaves, if they aint made i will either weight reduce one or make a fresh one from a billet of ali! i will be happy when a load of balloons will lift te car

Ralph

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Posted 15/8/2010 3:15 PM (#566351 - in reply to #566317)
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Your right they are not cheap, new price is in the £300's but watch ebay as you can get cheap second hand ones. I bought Salty's old kit back at a fraction of the new cost price off Mark when breaking the GTi

I'm not aware of any light weight or replacement slaves other than the original AP one. If your going to make one up then I may be interested in one for my F

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Posted 18/8/2010 2:30 PM (#566763 - in reply to #407590)
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well, had a result of a day today, first found a chap who can bend the thin wall ali pipe i used for my radiator pipes so i can start making up long sections of bent ali pipe rather than ali straights an silicone elbows which aint the best.

and got started on the light weight slave cylinder! seems a bit silly but since its cost me nothing so far its good. got the main part turned down, then got the smaller parts notched on a milling machine, waterjet cut the flat bit an got another friend to weld it all up. just need to get it drilled tapped an bored out now, an maybe fit a steel sleeve.

Ralph

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Posted 18/8/2010 2:34 PM (#566765 - in reply to #407590)
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Not bad, looks quite good as it is un drilled

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Posted 18/8/2010 2:50 PM (#566768 - in reply to #407590)
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Ralph that slave is amazing!

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Posted 19/8/2010 12:16 PM (#566910 - in reply to #407590)
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thanks for the comments

heres pic of one of the pipes i had bent up for the rad plumbing, hopefully do a few more tomorrow. mates also finished a few bits which i need to made a tool to put ribs in the end of the pipes to the silicone elbows cant work there way off.

Ralph

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Posted 20/8/2010 1:24 PM (#567031 - in reply to #566910)
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Loving the pic Ralphy, its a good job I bought those anti-invisible glasses off www.skyhooks.com the other month

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Posted 20/8/2010 4:11 PM (#567058 - in reply to #407590)
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opps your right! heres pic!!

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Posted 21/8/2010 4:11 AM (#567073 - in reply to #407590)
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Should save a bit more weight! less silicone, less jubilees etc! nice one!

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Posted 21/8/2010 4:40 AM (#567075 - in reply to #407590)
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So thats where part of the frame from my walker went

Nice bit of pipe that. They able to do just about any size of piping as I may requie some for the turbo.

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Posted 21/8/2010 8:36 AM (#567097 - in reply to #407590)
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lol. this is 32mm OD 1.6mm wall, he had various dies from inch to 2 inch i think, he does stainless handrails an bits for boats etc.

just finished making a tool which will hopefully put nice rides round the ends of my pipes.

and yes to right will save tad bit of weight, also will aid cooling, be less restriction on waterflow and the ali pipe will act like a radiator unlike silicone which is a good insulator, and most importantly no more silicone pipes to come off!

vid.... 0 to just over 90, poor start shit tarmac on a back road (private runway obviously) so wheel spun slightly, when it spins the exhaust rattles as you can hear... will sort it one day lol.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wjqv8tGtk4k

Ralph

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Posted 22/8/2010 9:16 AM (#567225 - in reply to #407590)
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got my tool finished for flaring the ends of the pipes, and did a test, which proved the thorey, just needs some upgrades, and i think using it under a 22 tonne 3 phase hydraulic press was over the top, might just make a handle so its Mandrolic instead, i managed to bend the part the top die is welded to slightly even tho its mate from 20mm steel! so will re design and make a new one tomorrow.

the actual ridges came out much better than i thought tho, will do the job perfect.

Ralph

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Posted 22/8/2010 9:20 AM (#567227 - in reply to #407590)
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That's fantastic work there Ralph!

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Posted 22/8/2010 10:19 AM (#567236 - in reply to #407590)
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Love the tool and also love that video, im really suprised as to how easy it looks to drive, was expecting it to be more of a handful under a hard launch but that looks spot on!

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Posted 22/8/2010 2:16 PM (#567276 - in reply to #407590)
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thanks for the comments again!

its not really a handful at all, you need to be respectful but its generally got plenty of grip, only time its caught me are in the wet when putting power down going round corners, have spun it once an slid up a verge once lol. needs less aggressive diff, type B torsen is whats needed, an i got a new one here, will fit it when i put the new engine in, got type A atm.

will try an get better vid with a webcam some time, that was taken with digi cam wedged under the head rest!

Ralph

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Posted 26/8/2010 2:16 PM (#567885 - in reply to #407590)
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got the main water pipes which go under the car bent up today, was complicated as they run horizontal at the front, vertical in the middle by the gear change, then kind of diagonal at the rear before one dives in to the water pump, and other one goes in to silicone bend before going up to the engine output.

will take car off the road for a day or 2 an fit these, have to bead the ends of them first to. should be a nice improvement.

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Posted 28/8/2010 9:22 AM (#568041 - in reply to #407590)
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got the water pipes above and the one on the last page fitted, front 2 fit fine, the longer under car ones dont, just need a tweek or 3 then they should all line up.

and the mess which came off, its nice to see it so much more tidy, and reduced about a kg of weight!

Ralph

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Posted 28/8/2010 10:19 AM (#568048 - in reply to #407590)
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They look much better, can see you just need a slight kink in the main pipes to get them lined up but your not that far off

Keep it up

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looks so much neater, and more "factory" so to speak

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Posted 28/8/2010 4:49 PM (#568095 - in reply to #407590)
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yep, its about 20mm off, i left the bottom one straight as it was hard to tell if it needed it, not bad for first attempt as its so hard to measure things like this.

as said factory is the look i aspire to, rover defiantly wouldn't have used silicone elbows an ali straights!

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Posted 2/9/2010 1:00 PM (#568809 - in reply to #407590)
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more of the same boring stuff but its all i done lately, bent flared an tig welded made them look about as factory as can get.

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Posted 13/9/2010 8:39 AM (#570293 - in reply to #407590)
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Any more updates? Love seeing pics of this thing.

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Posted 13/9/2010 8:51 AM (#570294 - in reply to #407590)
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yea, i got the door catches lubed up an the doors shut nicely now! an readjusted my rear shocks, rides slightly better to.

so no f**k all lately, but few bits will be coming soon dont worry, work aint due to finish on this project for another 10 years lol.

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Posted 14/9/2010 8:30 AM (#570416 - in reply to #407590)
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Are you not itching to get it on the RR before you fit the TVR heads to see what the increase would be?

Stunning project by the way, It's the reason I found this site, this thread was linked from a Northern Ireland based car forum called Reallymeansounds. Kudos to you.

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Posted 14/9/2010 8:47 AM (#570423 - in reply to #570416)
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Are you not itching to get it on the RR before you fit the TVR heads to see what the increase would be?

Stunning project by the way, It's the reason I found this site, this thread was linked from a Northern Ireland based car forum called Reallymeansounds. Kudos to you.

ahh was it someone called steve who linked to it? done some work for a steve in NI.

its been on the rollers when the ecu was mapped, was a tame 150 at the wheels. the TVR heads etc will all be built on to a new engine so not really going to know how much extra power they have given.

thanks for the comments, good to know some people out there like it lol.

will have more pics on here later!

Ralph

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Posted 14/9/2010 12:57 PM (#570472 - in reply to #407590)
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got my last water pipes done today, just need to cut off the pipes sticking out, an cut off an drill/tap the bit of solid bar which will have a bleed screw in it. thinking of using a k series metro M6 bleed screw if anyone has 1 or 2 flouting about??

so hopefully no more water pipes an some more interesting updates next.

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Posted 17/9/2010 12:11 PM (#570807 - in reply to #407590)
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today been everywhere, got new battery, an went scrappy an got a bleed screw, plastic type (lighter

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battery center chap wanted me to get the 520ah battery as it was a V8, i turned it down cause it was a KG heavyer lol, an anyway my 44ah batterys works which is 4 years old an nakered so new one will be fine.

an check out the Man Table

2inch polished stainless legs, 10mm polished stainless base, an a 20mm slate top! we had some spare slate so i made it up, cost me f**k all so all good, might try an get a nice bit of marble for the top tho, think it would look better.

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Posted 17/9/2010 1:23 PM (#570817 - in reply to #407590)
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certainly wouldnt want to stub your toe on that!

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Posted 17/9/2010 4:21 PM (#570837 - in reply to #570817)
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Man table or bomb shelter?

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Posted 27/9/2010 2:42 PM (#572156 - in reply to #407590)
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the table is pretty industrial!

anyway another interesting update, almost got the ali slave cylinder finished, my mate reamed it out with a reamer but i think it still needs slight attention, probably hone it a bit more.

its almost exactly 1/3rd of the weight, so saves 0.3kg, which is worth it. especially as its something which is very over weight to start with.

as in the pic, master cylinder will be on the cards to!

Ralph

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Posted 28/9/2010 10:07 AM (#572243 - in reply to #407590)
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got the inside reemed out to the correct size an he said he lapped it in or something, not sure quite what that entailed but it slides in an out nice now. got the seal kit ordered, hopefully be able to fit it later this week.

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Posted 28/9/2010 1:18 PM (#572292 - in reply to #407590)
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Ok then come on, whats the difference in the weight this time

Looks good

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Posted 30/9/2010 10:44 AM (#572615 - in reply to #407590)
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the slave is 0.3kg lighter, so next up is the master cylinder

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Posted 1/10/2010 9:26 AM (#572739 - in reply to #407590)
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well got the slave fitted, i dont think its leaking, so will see how it goes over next few weeks, mgb slaves are ali an apparently they do suffer from the bores scoring but im guessing thats over a long period of time.

also did a tad more to my bonnet mold, its close to ready to make a skin, but its weeks since i last touched it but will crack on with that now.

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Posted 6/10/2010 10:01 AM (#573467 - in reply to #407590)
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had a frequent problem of sometimes when i started the engine it just wouldnt want to do anything, touch the accelerator an it would die, enless you instantly gave it a hoof full then it would go, anyway fitted a cheapo fuel regulator from ebay an it seems to have solved the problem, now have the problem of trying to best match the fuel presure an probly touch the map up to compensate for any differences.

only let down it weights 3 times what the old one did!!!!

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Posted 7/10/2010 11:04 AM (#573622 - in reply to #407590)
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Believe it or not those regulators are actually pretty good. Tested on engine dyno alongside very expeneisve digital one. Holds pressure very well and doesn't drift over time. Also has good flow rate for big power engines.

It should be fine.

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Posted 7/10/2010 11:16 PM (#573695 - in reply to #407590)
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Are you going to be moving the fuel line away from the exhaust manifold?

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Posted 8/10/2010 1:12 AM (#573703 - in reply to #573695)
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jasonr - 8/10/2010 7:16 AM

Are you going to be moving the fuel line away from the exhaust manifold?

will re route it when i change engines, looks like its touching in that pic but its about an inch this side of the exhaust.

i will probably run it straight back past the engine block an clip it to that or something.

well spotted tho, my lazy attempt at sticking a fuel pipe in!

Ralph

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Posted 23/10/2010 3:58 AM (#575369 - in reply to #407590)
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ok i been very slack, virtually nothing done over last 2 weeks, been pissed up for multiple occasions mostly! however back on the case now.

got most of my ali master cylinder done, just needs the bore putting in it now.

also hopefully fit the remaining 2 water pipes and an ali rad my friend has kindly sent me, hopefully the rad will be slightly lighter, although it may hold more water, if so it may not be, either way should aid cooling slightly. will put some pics up when i fit them.

im planning on starting tidying up some of the body work to, so will probably get it in the garage tomorrow, maybe for a few days.

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Posted 24/10/2010 10:25 AM (#575505 - in reply to #407590)
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ali rad saved another KG

with the extra pipes that over a KG saved this weekend, which makes it a good weekend

lol.

also got some anti freeze in it now which is a good idea considering temperature!

never had the motivation to touch body work.... in the week maybe!

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Posted 26/10/2010 2:58 AM (#575689 - in reply to #407590)
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just got my ali clutch master cylinder back, bored out an finished, looks stunning

will put some pics up later when im home. about 1/4 of the weight to!

Ralph

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Posted 27/10/2010 2:22 PM (#575865 - in reply to #407590)
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clutch master, i forgot 1 thing, the first bit needs a touch of machining to allow the washer bit go up beyond the circlip, so will hopefully get that sorted tomorrow.

some weight saving, made the spacers which rear of the seat sit on, made a set out of acetal for ultra light weight

if anyone wants a set they can have them £6 posted!

Ralph

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Posted 28/10/2010 11:51 AM (#575967 - in reply to #407590)
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got the master cylinder finished, just need to find a clean reservoir to go on it.

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Posted 14/11/2010 9:47 AM (#577621 - in reply to #407590)
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been very busy an hardly touched the V8 lately, been busy MOTing the MG an installing a fly press.

however got my plastic seat spacers installed, an the next part i think might go on a diet is the door catch parts, i seen them lurking on friends stripped turbo so took them off so ic an copy them in stainless/ali/titanium. seems insignificant but every few grams helps, if ic an half the weight of every silly component on the car then eventually it will get lighter.

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Posted 25/11/2010 1:49 PM (#579172 - in reply to #407590)
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check this out for over kill

Titanium clutch slave components, all titanium (other than the spring) and half the weight

my friend who machined them up must be pretty good, the piston is 0.02mm smaller in diamitor than standard, so in reality its spot on.

along with ali slaves these will be forsale. nuts an bleed nipples can be sold separately. tho i dont think many people are as anal about weight saving as me lol.

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Posted 25/11/2010 2:10 PM (#579173 - in reply to #407590)
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you tart, but me like

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Posted 25/11/2010 2:18 PM (#579174 - in reply to #407590)
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Oh thats just naughty!

Some lovely machining there, cant be cheap to remake it all in ali/ti tho!

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Posted 25/11/2010 3:02 PM (#579181 - in reply to #407590)
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looking good as always

you are really putting some effort into this. nice to see!

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Posted 25/11/2010 3:36 PM (#579183 - in reply to #407590)
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like the comments lol.

they aint to expensive if you know the right people an if i sell a few light weight slaves i will probly end up getting my parts free.

like everything on the project it cant cost me much but has to be done properly.

up next will be titanium boot stay ball joints and door striker pins!

Ralph

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Posted 29/11/2010 6:21 AM (#579491 - in reply to #407590)
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V8 metros are awesome in the snow

think the torsen diff helps to, i got up a hill today 2 vans couldnt, and the over steers good!

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Posted 29/11/2010 6:42 AM (#579492 - in reply to #407590)
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I'll let how awesome this car is distract me from the state of those wheels

Got to be the best sleeper on here

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Posted 29/11/2010 9:58 AM (#579517 - in reply to #407590)
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The torsen helps really well in the snow as when we had the bad snow last year I had to go out in it and the ZS just plodded alone nicely with everyone else struggling

Have you changed the rear tyres as they look larger or are they just coverd in slush from you playing about

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Posted 29/11/2010 10:13 AM (#579522 - in reply to #407590)
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nah same, they are a fraction bigger than the fronts anyway, but also where covered in crap.

your right Pandy, i seriously need to get the body work sorted so its polishable! it will come but i need to make some money first so i can afford it!

Ralph

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Posted 13/12/2010 6:17 AM (#581050 - in reply to #579522)
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ralphh85 - 28/11/2010 6:13 PM

your right Pandy, i seriously need to get the body work sorted so its polishable! it will come but i need to make some money first so i can afford it!

Ralph

i like it as it is, the faces on people as it cruises by must be magical

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Posted 4/12/2010 1:39 PM (#580134 - in reply to #407590)
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i been rather slack on this project, but there small update, and got a few more extreme weight saving measures coming up.

decided im gonna set myself a challenge to get it to 700kg eventually. it must be possible!

these where less than half the weight, an i will make the main wiper bit next. should save a KG or so over the complete wiper system.

Ralph

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Posted 9/12/2010 2:57 PM (#580701 - in reply to #407590)
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need to adjust drawing but i can def make this part in ali now.

also got some ali washer bits made up for the seat belt bolts an a plastic gear knob adapter rather than the ugly old steel one.

got some more pretty good weight saving coming up to. will post pics as an when.

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Posted 12/12/2010 9:43 AM (#580935 - in reply to #407590)
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few more bits, getting closer to the brace which the motor attaches to, also a weight reduced pivot bit, drilled a hole down the spindle bit an reduced the arm down bit. was hoping to remove a kilo off the wiper assembly but i dont think it will be quiet that much.

more titanium will be on order tomorrow to

Ralph

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Posted 12/12/2010 2:35 PM (#581005 - in reply to #407590)
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Ralph,

Your project is ambitious! I am very anxious for knowing and seeing the end of it! It's pretty much unseen here in Portugal and I guess, it's very rare even in Britain.

Keep up the good work,

Levi.

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Posted 13/12/2010 1:01 PM (#581092 - in reply to #581005)
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Levi - 12/12/2010 10:35 PM

Ralph,

Your project is ambitious! I am very anxious for knowing and seeing the end of it! It's pretty much unseen here in Portugal and I guess, it's very rare even in Britain.

Keep up the good work,

Levi.

Thanks

yes not many like mine, i want to get it painted just so it looks nice an respectable like it came out the factory, that way it wont spoil the sleeperness off it.

Ralph

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Posted 12/12/2010 2:37 PM (#581006 - in reply to #407590)
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Not considering running a single wiper setup?

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Posted 19/12/2010 4:37 AM (#581633 - in reply to #407590)
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got my new ultra light weight slave cylinder made, i have done these as i made a few an will sell them so if anyones interested?

new ones weigh less than 200g an are a thing of beauty with the titanium components.

Ralph

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Posted 20/12/2010 11:05 AM (#581780 - in reply to #407590)
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more titanium, ali and stainless

main pin is titanium, the hex locking part is ali and the location plates (also forsale) is stainless. another few grams saved

also looking in to new idealy stainless or titanium springs an forming the little spring retaining cap.

Ralph

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Posted 20/12/2010 1:05 PM (#581814 - in reply to #407590)
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If I remember correctly you have to be careful with titanium, if you don't use copper grease with dissimilar metals it ceases.

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Posted 21/12/2010 1:26 AM (#581866 - in reply to #407590)
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i dont think titanium causes many issues, it certainly doesnt corrode easily. but i expect everything will get lagged anyway.

Ralph

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Posted 21/12/2010 1:50 AM (#581869 - in reply to #407590)
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It's not a corrosion issue, it's due to the structure of it. I'm thinking back to my mountain biking days and using titanium bolts with steel and ally. Something to do with it getting stuck or seizing, I may be wrong but it is worth checking up on.

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Posted 21/12/2010 2:10 AM (#581871 - in reply to #581869)
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jasonr - 20/12/2010 9:50 AM

It's not a corrosion issue, it's due to the structure of it. I'm thinking back to my mountain biking days and using titanium bolts with steel and ally. Something to do with it getting stuck or seizing, I may be wrong but it is worth checking up on.

He does have a point, and its corrosion to a point but called Galling. Its where two materials self generate an oxide surface film (aka rusting) and if you have pressure and friction, say from threads pulling together, this adds to the affect and they fuse together over time.

IIRC the same grade of stainless steel components, ie nuts and bolts, gall easier than different grades.

This may help

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Galling

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Posted 21/12/2010 2:38 AM (#581878 - in reply to #407590)
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its only a car, it will be just fine lol. and i got a nice tin of copper slip if necessary.

Ralph

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Posted 3/1/2011 6:13 AM (#583291 - in reply to #407590)
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got a few bits on today, still waiting on seals before the new slave will be fitted. the best weight reduction are the things you never notice

and a few less parts to go rusty, just need to finish my glass fiber bonnet..... decided this an getting the car sprayed are high on the priority list now.

Ralph

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Posted 3/1/2011 7:24 AM (#583302 - in reply to #407590)
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Bonnet safety catch looks impressive.

I think the Bonnet slame pannel in alloy might be worth it and not too hard to make?

I was thinking, the back coolant pipe on the k-series engine to the thermostat housing might be a good one to make out of alloy and sell on? Should of been alloy from the factory IMO.

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Posted 3/1/2011 7:31 AM (#583304 - in reply to #407590)
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why not use the bro bolt alloy bolts for some fasteners may save a bit of weight doing this

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Posted 3/1/2011 10:09 AM (#583338 - in reply to #407590)
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thanks for the comments, slam panel is on the list to be made from glass fibre, be easyer than ali and probably lighter.

bolts, i already have a few Titanium M8 nuts an bolts on order, aluminium bolts would be ok but i wouldnt want them on the bonnet as its a potential saftey risk, where as titaniums ok an not much heavier. probably going to get a hole load of M8 an M6 titanium ones then i can start changing the majority of the nuts an bolts on the car. nylon bolts are also a good one for non structural bolts so will be getting some.

Ralph

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Posted 4/1/2011 2:07 PM (#583613 - in reply to #407590)
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got the wiper linkage welded today, and got some even more interesting bits coming tomorrow

well i think so anyway!

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Posted 5/1/2011 1:39 PM (#583834 - in reply to #407590)
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More titanium

Titanium door strikers, boot damper ball joints, M8 nuts an bolts, these will be fitted in various places and machined stainless ends which will be welded on to a piece of tube to make clutch slave rods.

door strikers/ball joints will be in the forsale section to.

Ralph

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Posted 6/1/2011 12:18 PM (#584051 - in reply to #407590)
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bits fitted.......

fitted few titanium nuts an bolts, many more to go yet tho. also fitted a nylon bolt in the rad bleed screw, much better as nylons almost weight less.

the boot strut balls are hardly glamorous, but will go well if i get a stainless damper, or if ic an find one an alloy one!

Ralph

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Posted 6/1/2011 4:29 PM (#584104 - in reply to #407590)
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will the door strickers fit the k series metros and if so how much for a pair ralph

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Posted 7/1/2011 1:12 AM (#584134 - in reply to #407590)
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see thread in the forsale section, pretty sure they are same through the years. they are M12x1 thread if you want to check, full refund on return if they dont fit!

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Posted 7/1/2011 1:55 PM (#584245 - in reply to #407590)
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got my ali wiper setup almost finished, its on the car but needs a tad refinement.

pic of before/after, only difference is the original already had ali motor body which i made. more good weight saving

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Posted 7/1/2011 2:07 PM (#584250 - in reply to #407590)
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very nice, I think its time to get the car painted isn't it so it makes all you handy work 'pop'

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Posted 8/1/2011 1:17 AM (#584328 - in reply to #584250)
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R119GTA - 7/1/2011 2:07 PM

very nice, I think its time to get the car painted isn't it so it makes all you handy work 'pop'

Agreed

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Posted 8/1/2011 10:37 AM (#584390 - in reply to #584328)
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R119GTA - 7/1/2011 2:07 PM

very nice, I think its time to get the car painted isn't it so it makes all you handy work 'pop'

Agreed

Agreed lol yes i will get round to it, i dont know how much but i think i got a christmas bonus this money, even if its a few hundred quid will be the start of a spray job.

todays been good to, i weight reduced a red band rack, knocked about 850g off the rack, so in all i should take more than a kilo from the hole rack. here a pic, i got a few in progress but i cant get them off my phone. basically parted it int he middle, bored out both pieces on a lathe and welded it back, still amply strong enough, aint gonna get any better without having one made from titanium, an im not that rich yet.

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Posted 8/1/2011 1:30 PM (#584412 - in reply to #407590)
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Your an absolute nutter ralph, wish I had the facilities you had, could make the S13 alot lighter with some work

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Posted 8/1/2011 4:02 PM (#584449 - in reply to #584412)
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FreddieS - 8/1/2011 9:30 PM

Your an absolute nutter ralph, wish I had the facilities you had, could make the S13 alot lighter with some work

Amen to that, I wish I could be bothered/had the money to do this anal level of weight saving, will add up to a huuuuge loss in the end.

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Posted 9/1/2011 1:50 AM (#584480 - in reply to #584449)
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R119GTA - 8/1/2011 11:38 PM

like the use of the last word in that sentence 'yet' lol

to right aim high an all that lol

Johneh - 9/1/2011 12:02 AM

FreddieS - 8/1/2011 9:30 PM

Your an absolute nutter ralph, wish I had the facilities you had, could make the S13 alot lighter with some work

Amen to that, I wish I could be bothered/had the money to do this anal level of weight saving, will add up to a huuuuge loss in the end.

yeah over the years i have built up a number of good friends an contacts to get stuff done, im also slightly aided by the fact that theres alot of medium size industry round here, mostly boating, although i hate boats its handy.

i did the rack in the same place as the drive shafts, my mate used to be a machinist for the china clay works, so we did it there, they got some massive equipment. only thing it cost me is a burn hand where i tried taking it out the lathe just after he welded it lol dur!

once again, thanks for the comments.

Ralph

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Posted 8/1/2011 3:38 PM (#584443 - in reply to #407590)
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like the use of the last word in that sentence 'yet' lol

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Posted 9/1/2011 8:05 AM (#584488 - in reply to #407590)
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Thats where its at boyo! To get stuff machined round here you either need to do alot of favours for the machine shops, pay through the nose, or own your own machines!

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Posted 9/1/2011 9:11 AM (#584492 - in reply to #407590)
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We have the same problem. If its more technical than a head skim you just cant find anyone to do it. I'm seriously considering getting 3 phase installed so i can buy my own machines and learn to do some things myself.

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Posted 9/1/2011 9:12 AM (#584493 - in reply to #407590)
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Great work by the way!

As said before, get it painted

Edited by Tom Sanderson 9/1/2011 9:14 AM

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Posted 9/1/2011 9:48 AM (#584501 - in reply to #407590)
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weighed it again today, 867, so since i started i have removed 30 kg, an considdering i have added at least 5kg of car pc an few other bits an bobs that good weight loss! 850 is already in sight!

few more pics of rack in progress, also the extended drill, which stayed dead straight which we where surprised about.

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Posted 9/1/2011 11:52 AM (#584542 - in reply to #407590)
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really really impressive. Will you be taking it on the 1/4 mile?

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Posted 10/1/2011 7:27 AM (#584699 - in reply to #407590)
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i will do, most years theres one local to me, else they are all miles away!

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Posted 10/1/2011 11:49 AM (#584776 - in reply to #407590)
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clutch slave rod, this was the easyest/cleverest way i could think of shaving weight off it. got a bit of tube welded between the two machined ends.

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Posted 10/1/2011 12:07 PM (#584780 - in reply to #407590)
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Now youve just got to get mega-pro with carbon fibre and make the shell out of CF and spaceframe it out of T45

then it will weigh like 500kg

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Posted 10/1/2011 3:51 PM (#584830 - in reply to #407590)
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Wow been reading this thread and that looks like such a good project, I bet it drives great as well.

Edited by steven211 10/1/2011 4:11 PM

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Posted 12/1/2011 2:54 AM (#585030 - in reply to #584830)
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steven211 - 10/1/2011 11:51 PM

Wow been reading this thread and that looks like such a good project, I bet it drives great as well.

was ment to update last night with pics but never got round to it......

thanks an yeah the way it drives is what keeps me going on the project, its got no power assisted anything, yet all the controls are a dream to work, non of its heavy yet has great feedback. makes me smile every time i drive to work

Edit, an yeah freddie thats on the cards but i dont think it will be in the next 10 years lol.

Ralph

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Posted 14/1/2011 3:24 PM (#585375 - in reply to #407590)
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got my new fuel presure regulator fitted, this one is definatly better and i think has solved a few of my issues i was having with fuel pressure, fitted the old gauge in to to help me check fuel presure.

going to get the car over the pit tomorrow an take a look underneath an check the general health of the engine, if alls well im goign to go an inquire again at the body shop an see about getting it sprayed, will see what the waiting list is like.

so should have a few more updates coming soon.

Ralph

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Posted 16/1/2011 11:30 AM (#585590 - in reply to #407590)
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what a weekend, had a core plug go in the head, changed that yesterday an was a right fooker to get out, did it tho, then fitted my new ali slave with titanium bits in it an ali master cylinder. which was also a bastard cause first i couldnt get thing to bleed, had to use a gearbox filling syringe to suck the fluid from the slaves bleed nipple, then i couldnt get the pipe to seal in to the master cylinder. but persistence prevailed an i got it done, had to use a mole grips to tighten the masters pipe nut! need to change the pipe anyway really to fit the new titanium pipe nuts, hopefully find lighter pipe as well.

an got fuel reg bolted on properly, all bits today bolted on with titanium nuts an bolts!

Ralph

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Posted 16/1/2011 11:33 AM (#585591 - in reply to #407590)
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Looking good ralph! could shave a fair bit of weight off of the engine if you changed alot of the bits for custom alu, ITB's would probably be lighter than the current inlet!

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Posted 17/1/2011 2:21 AM (#585718 - in reply to #585591)
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I am working on glass fibre rocker covers, all that will come when i make the new engine, but as you say alot of weight to lose there, hopefully new engine will be 10-15kg lighter. round the rear is where i want to be losing the weight really as thats the heavy end.

Ralph

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Posted 18/1/2011 11:11 AM (#586009 - in reply to #407590)
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Rack body lightened, ground off the text an other bits of the casting which wasnt required. might fit a new bearing to an maybe bore a small hole down the middle of the pinion lol. determined to remove a hole kilo off the rack!

Ralph

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Posted 20/1/2011 9:56 AM (#586308 - in reply to #407590)
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next target for titaniumisation lol.

by the looks of it these are just M10 bolts machined down with an M6 thread cut on them.

Ralph

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Posted 22/1/2011 9:44 AM (#586677 - in reply to #407590)
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got the car penciled in for a re spray probably early march!

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Posted 23/1/2011 3:32 AM (#586759 - in reply to #407590)
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Ralph i'm in awe of your passion and dedication. I can't even be bothered to get off my arse and change the driveshaft thats fubar'd even though I've had it in the boot for 2 months.
Keep up the good work and when you've finished I've got a shit load of jobs need doing..

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Posted 23/1/2011 12:15 PM (#586873 - in reply to #407590)
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thanks

good to know i might be inspiring people!

should have plenty more to update on soon as i will be taking it off the road for a while to do some jobs on it.

Ralph

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Posted 26/1/2011 1:06 PM (#587706 - in reply to #407590)
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i found theres only 1 part left of my radiator plumbing which is steel and this is it! think it needs remaking in ali if i can get the pipe bent.

also been looking at weight reducing the hole heater matrix box.

Ralph

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Posted 26/1/2011 2:11 PM (#587722 - in reply to #407590)
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Do you have any plans to reduce unsprung weight? Because I have studied it a bit and unsprung weight can constitute between 4:1 to 8:1 the actual weight of the component dependent on position relative to the axis, would be useful as with lighter wheels you have a lighter flywheel in effect.

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Posted 26/1/2011 2:14 PM (#587724 - in reply to #407590)
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i removed a load off the front stub axles.

other than that not till i build new subframes, then plenty of unsprung weight will go. i plan on fitting ali calipers, lighter suspension components and ali bodied shocks.

yes your right tho thats one of the most important weight saves going.

Ralph

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Posted 27/1/2011 11:27 AM (#587890 - in reply to #407590)
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done the easy bit, hopefully get some pipes bent tomorrow with a bit of luck, if the bender will do such tight radius's.

Ralph

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Posted 28/1/2011 9:48 AM (#588074 - in reply to #407590)
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the start of a titanium bonnet hinge bolt, i could have had them machined up but i would have had to order a batch, an i dont think they are the kind of things to sell so gonna make myself a pair from these bolts.

also got myself a load of titanium M8 x 25 bolts an nuts so i can start replacing loads of them on my car.

last but not least got myself an ali alternator pulley.

Ralph

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Posted 30/1/2011 11:20 AM (#588425 - in reply to #407590)
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start of the matrix pipes in ali. hopefully get them finished in next day or 3.

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Posted 1/2/2011 10:24 AM (#588847 - in reply to #407590)
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just needs cutting off welding up an a bleed screw point put in.

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Posted 2/2/2011 1:42 PM (#589156 - in reply to #407590)
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got this one almost finished, been fairly slack on other fronts....

as can be seen, it has bleed screw bit on it.

Ralph

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Posted 2/2/2011 1:54 PM (#589160 - in reply to #407590)
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good work mate,and i recieved the parts today

Thanks Mate

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Posted 4/2/2011 10:12 AM (#589484 - in reply to #407590)
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check out these beauties...........

and thanks for the comment

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Posted 4/2/2011 11:19 AM (#589509 - in reply to #407590)
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as always very smart

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Posted 6/2/2011 9:23 AM (#589786 - in reply to #589509)
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red1.1 - 4/2/2011 7:19 PM

as always very smart

thanks,

anyway got the MG Metro back on the road an the V8 in the garage to prepair for respray, taken the stickers/rubbing strips off one side.

plan it to remove all rust an prime over the bits where its starting to rust, the door needs a small hole welding, an while im at it im goign to do some weight reduction on the door innards.

so with a bit of luck i will be able to have a fully de rusted, brand new looking metro, only thing im not sure on it weather to leave off the rubbing strips an put black vinal stickers in there place, i want to keep it looking standard clubman any how. also it says "clubman 1.3 L" on the rear, i might change the 1.3 to 3.5 or maybe V8, be a subtle an amusing way for people to work out what it was if they wonder. or i could just leave it as Clubman L liek the lower models had, not really sure tho.

Ralph

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Posted 6/2/2011 10:19 AM (#589812 - in reply to #407590)
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Will be much better after a respray, I say go for vinyl and standard clubman stickers

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Posted 7/2/2011 11:58 AM (#590070 - in reply to #589812)
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mayoturbo - 6/2/2011 6:19 PM

Will be much better after a respray, I say go for vinyl and standard clubman stickers

it sure will, yeah your right for sure on a performance front, only advantage of the rubber strips is stops damage from people opening doors in to it.

Titanium bonnet hinge bolts fitted, another 20 grams gone lol need to get some good paint up under the scuttle panel really.

Ralph

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Posted 7/2/2011 12:03 PM (#590073 - in reply to #407590)
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clubman 3.5, dont have v8 on the back or its obvious

cant wait to see it in one colour!

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FreddieS - 7/2/2011 12:03 PM

clubman 3.5

words taken right outa my mouth clubman 3.5 ftw

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Posted 7/2/2011 12:15 PM (#590080 - in reply to #407590)
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Clubman 3.5 8v

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Posted 7/2/2011 12:34 PM (#590085 - in reply to #407590)
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1 primer layer, 1 colour layer, and 1 clearcoat yeah?

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Posted 7/2/2011 1:08 PM (#590100 - in reply to #590085)
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Pandy - 7/2/2011 8:34 PM

1 primer layer, 1 colour layer, and 1 clearcoat yeah?

fook knows, getting it done by a body shop cross the village from me!

only trouble with putting 3.5 is it wont be 3.5 forever.

Ralph

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Posted 7/2/2011 1:09 PM (#590102 - in reply to #590085)
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Pandy - 7/2/2011 8:34 PM

1 primer layer, 1 colour layer, and 1 clearcoat yeah?

fook knows, getting it done by a body shop cross the village from me!

only trouble with putting 3.5 is it wont be 3.5 forever.

Ralph

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Posted 7/2/2011 2:29 PM (#590158 - in reply to #590085)
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a big part of me is still saying leave it as it is

Other than that, brown or beige would be my colour of choice for the undercover granny racer

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1 primer layer, 1 colour layer, and 1 clearcoat yeah?

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Posted 7/2/2011 1:09 PM (#590101 - in reply to #407590)
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keep it standard then just leave people behind then there be wondering

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Posted 8/2/2011 11:24 AM (#590287 - in reply to #407590)
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it will stay white, i like the fact that white doesnt really say anything about the car, whiltes never really been in or out of fashion.

anyway think i will probly end up stripping the doors an removing them, have them sprayed separately, should make a better job of it.

im also sizing up some weight reduction inside the doors.

Ralph

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Posted 8/2/2011 11:53 AM (#590292 - in reply to #407590)
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Have you thought about an underbody floorpiece, Dropped Skirts and a rear diffuser? All will greatly reduce drag and lift, maybe adding weight but the gains far outweigh the weight increase as you may even be able to produce downforce.

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Posted 8/2/2011 1:35 PM (#590339 - in reply to #407590)
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Are you going to get rid of the sunroof? AK motorsport do non sunroof roof skins. How about a fiberglass roof!

Theres loads of unnecessary weight in there.

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Posted 8/2/2011 2:06 PM (#590356 - in reply to #590339)
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i had considdered an under body floor thing.

Tom Sanderson - 8/2/2011 9:35 PM

Are you going to get rid of the sunroof? AK motorsport do non sunroof roof skins. How about a fiberglass roof!

Theres loads of unnecessary weight in there.

thought about a fibreglass sunroof, kinda nice having a sunroof but could do away with it, if i was to make a glass/carbon fibre roof im not sure how strong it would need to be to be as strong as the existing steel one.

all ideas on how to reduce weight/increase efficiency much appreciated!

Ralph

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Posted 8/2/2011 2:25 PM (#590368 - in reply to #407590)
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grp bumpers and skip the metal ones. grp tailgate from smith and deakin. lighter brake calipers

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Posted 9/2/2011 3:07 AM (#590424 - in reply to #590368)
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jasonr - 8/2/2011 10:25 PM

grp bumpers and skip the metal ones. grp tailgate from smith and deakin. lighter brake calipers

i reduced the rear metal bumper bit, an will hopefully make a light weight support for the front, dont think there would be much to gain by swaping the plastic for grp, but one day maybe. all the doors/boon/bonnet in production are all race car parts really, i want to retain the car functionality with standard fittings hinges an catches etc.

will fit ali probably hi spec calipers when i re do my suspension.

Ralph

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Posted 17/2/2011 10:32 AM (#592258 - in reply to #407590)
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long time no update! was away last weekend an busy since, made these from ali if anyone knows what they are? another few grams saved!

Ralph

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Posted 17/2/2011 11:03 AM (#592264 - in reply to #407590)
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are they part of the door relase inside the car? looks like it by the shapes and holes..?

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are they part of the door relase inside the car? looks like it by the shapes and holes..?

yup! have yet to bend them, an will probly make the pins from ali or titanium. might also get some ali/titanium for all the locking rods.

and thanks for the comments from the netherlands! its taken a while an alot of effort, will be great to see it painted soon, in about a month i expect, have been preping it a bit today to....

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Posted 17/2/2011 12:37 PM (#592286 - in reply to #407590)
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1 thing..

RESPECT

my god i've been reading the whole topic now, in about 1 hour

but this is 1 of the most amazing project's i've ever seen, included the weight mods!!

looking forward for a movie of it when it's completed in total!!

greetings from the netherlands!!

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Posted 18/2/2011 2:44 AM (#592359 - in reply to #407590)
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are you doing all the prep then getting the bodyshop to paint it? Good progress!!

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Posted 19/2/2011 11:10 AM (#592592 - in reply to #592359)
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mayoturbo - 18/2/2011 10:44 AM

are you doing all the prep then getting the bodyshop to paint it? Good progress!!

pretty much, i will tyr an do all the laborious stuff an welding, then leave final finishing an spraying to him, i like engineering so not that interested in rubbing things down an painting, so best leave most of that to him, im just trying to keep costs down, an i dont mind welding holes up.

pics, i been cleaning all the rust off from behind the boot hinge bit, no wonder its rusted, theres so little paint, one hard go with emery paper bares metal first time, must have been sprayed with boot on?

im thinking i might weld up all the holes in the C pillars an also remove the captive nut thing for the seat belts, and also the unused damper captive nut/extra steel part, all in aid of weight reduction! and would also make it look more like this was how it was intended which is nice.

also spotted another part for potential titaniumisation! would go well with the door strikers.

Ralph

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Posted 24/2/2011 11:27 AM (#593681 - in reply to #407590)
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got a C pillar welded over an removed the various bits i didnt need including the nut which the seat belt used to go in to. more weight reduced an cleaner looking!

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Posted 24/2/2011 11:43 AM (#593683 - in reply to #407590)
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i like.

how light do you think you will get the car

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Posted 25/2/2011 1:49 AM (#593772 - in reply to #593683)
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Thanks ryan, i think so to

cant wait to see it all painted an in smart condition.

red1.1 - 24/2/2011 7:43 PM

i like.

how light do you think you will get the car

i expect i will get it down to 750kg without to much trouble, i havent done any of the bigger parts yet, an i think it would be possible to get a metro own at 650, end of the day shells are 160, and engine/box are about the same, so if you cant get a cars suspension/steering etc down to around 300kg then theres a problem!

V8 and 750 kg will be allot of fun

Ralph

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Posted 24/2/2011 12:03 PM (#593689 - in reply to #407590)
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this is going to be a master piece in my eyes

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Posted 25/2/2011 4:08 AM (#593797 - in reply to #407590)
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haha my dad was looking at this last night, he's in love lol,cause i was explained that some parts are from you and home made,btw the V8 was the horse power now and Torque cause my old man used to Tune V6 & V8 engines for a living

he said that if you brought a super charger kit for it that your bhp will go up quite abit but he said in his words lol "the torque fraaaaa f*ck me,will double" lol! its a interesting build though Ralph and the exhaust and manifold is a work of art,be good to see it sprayed

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Posted 26/2/2011 11:59 AM (#594071 - in reply to #407590)
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i dont want to much more torque as not sure what the gearbox is capable of lol. the next engine should see over 240bhp an about same foot pounds of torque, an not forgetting this isnt a highly strung engine so the powers where you want it so nice to drive to.

anyway, been doing more body work, will take more photos when i get bit further, also new rear light lenses, got all new lights now, new wheels, painted is gonna look like new!

Ralph

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Posted 26/2/2011 12:09 PM (#594072 - in reply to #407590)
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The T-series boys put a fair amount of torque through their PG1's without too much trouble (once they've fitted steel caged bearings and M208 diff bearings)

Keep up the good work Ralph.

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Posted 27/2/2011 6:46 AM (#594162 - in reply to #407590)
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less weight will put less pressure on everything, but being rear wheel drive will increase loadings so will see. its got all 7 steel caged bearings anyway.

been doing some body work today, will stick pics up later.

Ralph

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Posted 27/2/2011 7:23 AM (#594171 - in reply to #407590)
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Posted 27/2/2011 1:21 PM (#594244 - in reply to #407590)
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heres what it looks like atm, rather sorry for itself really, but will get there, got the door totally stripped back to a bare skin, needs some small bits of welding but not much.

Ralph

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Posted 1/3/2011 11:31 AM (#594718 - in reply to #407590)
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my other light weight bonnet components wouldnt be right without a light weight titanium bonnet spring

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Posted 1/3/2011 11:33 AM (#594720 - in reply to #407590)
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You are a legend Ralph

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Posted 7/3/2011 3:21 AM (#596002 - in reply to #407590)
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mostly stripped it a bit further over weekend and cleaned up some of the rusty bits, also found some more bits which can be lightened......

Ralph

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Posted 7/3/2011 11:56 AM (#596129 - in reply to #407590)
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just need welding now....

over 0.1kg saved

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Posted 7/3/2011 4:08 PM (#596221 - in reply to #407590)
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V8 metro love it

bolt some turbos on to it

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Posted 8/3/2011 1:04 AM (#596230 - in reply to #596221)
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carl747 - 8/3/2011 12:08 AM

V8 metro love it

bolt some superchargers**** on to it

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Posted 8/3/2011 1:59 AM (#596233 - in reply to #407590)
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good work mate

Savin some wieght now

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Posted 8/3/2011 5:43 AM (#596280 - in reply to #407590)
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i will have more weight saving tonight as i got another delivery arrive

thanks for the comments!

no turbos or super chargers im afraid! just cam an ported heads.

Ralph

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Posted 8/3/2011 6:28 AM (#596291 - in reply to #596280)
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ralphh85 - 8/3/2011 5:43 AM

i will have more weight saving tonight as i got another delivery arrive

thanks for the comments!

no turbos or super chargers im afraid! just cam an ported heads.

Ralph

lol i already spoke to you about the Supercharger lol as my old man told me to mention it lol, cam and ported head will do it some good

its a beast anyway & more goodiessss

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Posted 8/3/2011 11:47 AM (#596362 - in reply to #407590)
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been de rusting my gutter, amazing how small amounts of rust can be a fooker to totally get rid of, got this hammerite rust remover but it makes a mess, does work tho.

wind deflector hinges, with titanium nuts/bolts, i bought a bag full of M6 titanium nuts an bolts not so can change loads of them over the car to.

Ralph

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Posted 9/3/2011 2:01 PM (#596680 - in reply to #407590)
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gutter finally de rusted an primed.

Ralph

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Posted 9/3/2011 2:51 PM (#596702 - in reply to #407590)
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Cornish engineering FTW keep it up buddy, your doing an ace job of it,

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Posted 10/3/2011 2:24 PM (#596950 - in reply to #407590)
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^^^ Thanks

got a hub off ebay, looking at ways to weight reduce them, first easy bit is this... after that i would love to make ali hubs and steering arms.

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Posted 12/3/2011 8:46 AM (#597279 - in reply to #407590)
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today i mostly, made a mess with some sigaflex which the chap whos spraying it recommended for running down the seams, good stuff not easy to apply tho.

should come off ok once dry i hope!

Ralph

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Posted 13/3/2011 5:07 AM (#597437 - in reply to #407590)
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that stuff is auwful to get off rofl

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Posted 13/3/2011 5:16 AM (#597439 - in reply to #597437)
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muzza - 13/3/2011 11:07 AM

that stuff is auwful to get off rofl

yup, you need to wipe it off before it goes off. It's also easier to apply if its warm.

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Posted 13/3/2011 5:38 AM (#597445 - in reply to #407590)
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Degutter it! simples

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Posted 13/3/2011 10:19 AM (#597488 - in reply to #407590)
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it came off ok, ran a knife down where i wanted it off an rest came off ok.

also got the rear bit cleaned up an sprayed, if i can get it all cleaned up like this an also make sure its clean inside then hopefully it wont rust away to quickly.

Ralph

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Posted 13/3/2011 12:54 PM (#597513 - in reply to #407590)
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Some good progress Ralph!

Look forward to seeing it all primed up and smooth! and of course painted...

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Posted 17/3/2011 3:40 PM (#598441 - in reply to #407590)
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bit more, been rather busy doing the shock mounts but goign back on it tonight.

Ralph

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Posted 20/3/2011 9:52 AM (#598843 - in reply to #407590)
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more body work, i know this bits boring, but nice to have a complete journal!

seeing metros restored which are really rusty makes me appreciate how easy this is, i should be left with a rust free metro which isnt goign to rust again for another 20 years. tho hopefully i will have a non metallic shell by then lol.

Ralph

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Posted 22/3/2011 2:27 PM (#599363 - in reply to #407590)
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yes, boring, i know but i got some more interesting titanium bits coming soon

pretty much finished this side (what im going to do anyway) so going to turn it round tomorrow

Ralph

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Posted 23/3/2011 1:59 PM (#599546 - in reply to #407590)
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got car turned round today as finished the other side. this side looks a bit easier, slightly less rust over all an not so bad where it is.

hopefully have done my part by next weekend so will be able to get it in to be sprayed.

also made up some new wheel spacers, these save more weight an are fixed back by the disc retaining bolts. it was pointless in them havign a foot print any bigger than whats on the wheel.

Ralph

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Posted 25/3/2011 12:12 PM (#600046 - in reply to #407590)
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i was going to start preping this side of the car but i ended up rummaging through my old nuts an bolts tin, an i found some interesting bits i could get made up in titanium.

while i decided to fit a titanium bolt tot he bonnet lever i thought i had better make an ali spacer for it to.

first is all the exterior PG1 gearbox plugs, these ahev a bit of weight tot hem an would smarten up any gearbox being made from titanium.

an also caliper bolts, theres about 0.25 KG of unsprung mass to be saved in total, would also go well with my wheel nuts an center nuts!

some or all of these might find there way on to my next order!

Ralph

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Posted 26/3/2011 11:06 AM (#600233 - in reply to #407590)
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made a start today. got stickers an bump strips off, an started disassembling the door.

Ralph

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Posted 26/3/2011 12:19 PM (#600246 - in reply to #407590)
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Those door hinges look like a potential for lightening

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Posted 26/3/2011 3:13 PM (#600291 - in reply to #407590)
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Just putting weight reducing ideas in your head Ralph, Metro doors are a fairly flat panels, bet it wouldn't be hard to make a set of door skins!

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Posted 26/3/2011 3:59 PM (#600294 - in reply to #407590)
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Gettin there mate

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Posted 27/3/2011 7:57 AM (#600382 - in reply to #407590)
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If you can read this then your lucky, as I can't see anymore post's since the 23rd post number 599546 I think the thread has got too big again

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Posted 27/3/2011 7:58 AM (#600383 - in reply to #407590)
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If you can read this then your lucky, as I can't see anymore post's since the 23rd post number 599546 I think the thread has got too big again

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Posted 27/3/2011 11:14 AM (#600414 - in reply to #600383)
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R119GTA - 27/3/2011 3:58 PM

If you can read this then your lucky, as I can't see anymore post's since the 23rd post number 599546 I think the thread has got too big again

indeed,

All fixed now

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Posted 27/3/2011 10:02 AM (#600395 - in reply to #407590)
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yeah it is getting there, an i will make composite doors eventually, but that will be bit further in to the project as are quite in depth.

today mostly been de rusting the 2nd gutter, defently less rust on this side.

Ralph

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Posted 27/3/2011 11:39 AM (#600425 - in reply to #407590)
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I've been cheating and typing a higher post number in the url to get to the next pages!

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Posted 31/3/2011 3:09 AM (#601300 - in reply to #407590)
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what is the green stuff you put on your rust?

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Posted 31/3/2011 3:13 AM (#601302 - in reply to #407590)
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its from the pot in the last pic, some rust eating stuff, works pretty well, means you can wire brush the rust out an get back to clean metal rather than ending up grinding half the good metal away to. will stick a pic up later if ya want of the front.

also got new door catch mechs, door handle, fog lights and some hinges in the post, it will have all brand new lights now once re assembled. should look nice!

Ralph

edit, this is it...... http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Hammerite-Rust-Remover-Gel-750ml-/130340920231?pt=UK_DIY_Material_Paint_Varnish_MJ&hash=item1e58ec9ba7 but i got mine in halfords an think it was actually cheaper.

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Posted 31/3/2011 6:44 AM (#601351 - in reply to #407590)
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PUT ANY NUTS AND BOLT YOU FOUND THERE.... AND GET IT ON ROAD......

I WHANT TO SEE IT EATING ASPHALT...............

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Posted 31/3/2011 2:12 PM (#601507 - in reply to #407590)
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the plugs will get made, if anyone wants a set for sure PM me an let me know what colour your interested in, (although colours maybe limited).

did some more today, the bodys not far off ready to go tot he spray shop.

Ralph

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Posted 2/4/2011 11:31 AM (#601856 - in reply to #407590)
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some of my new parts, got new door catches, along with the titanium door strikers, doors should now shut as good as new

new fog lights, now have all new lights for it,

new door catch, will make the little metal bit from ali, and also the hinges, i hope to make the main body parts of them from ali to. woul dbe nice to get titanium studs made up for the hinges, but not sure how easy it would be to make the spline bits done.

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Posted 3/4/2011 6:36 AM (#602021 - in reply to #407590)
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Epic thread dude. Will be awsome to see it on the black stuff.

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Posted 4/4/2011 12:23 PM (#602313 - in reply to #407590)
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and more body work...........

gutter sealed, cleaned up a rust hole at the bottom on the rear, also removed the other rear seat belt mount and smoothed it over like the other side.

and thanks for the comments!

Ralph

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Posted 6/4/2011 12:08 PM (#602730 - in reply to #407590)
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got my titanium order in, have wheel nuts, which on there own will save 0.65 kg, just need to get the center nuts an caliper bolts ordered.

also have titanium lower rose joint connectors and tube nuts, it will be more obvious what they do when i put a rose joint in one which i have not purchased yet. but will allow on car adjustable camber.

Ralph

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Posted 6/4/2011 1:23 PM (#602756 - in reply to #407590)
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nice nuts sir

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Posted 6/4/2011 1:32 PM (#602759 - in reply to #407590)
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i do say them nuts are a right hand full

hahahaha

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Posted 10/4/2011 10:44 AM (#603363 - in reply to #407590)
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well on the topic of my nuts heres 4 fitted!

cars now basically ready, got the other head light out to so hopefully will be goign over tot he body shop tomorrow!! just need to weld up a hole in one of the doors, but i can do that while he starts work on the car.

Ralph

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Posted 12/4/2011 1:28 PM (#603737 - in reply to #407590)
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no picks today, but cars at the body shop! will pop in an get a few as progress develops with it, he said 7-10 days but i suspect it could be longer! should have other developments in the mean time.

car felt nice an light driving over there, probly less than 800 kg lol.

Ralph

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no picks today, but cars at the body shop! will pop in an get a few as progress develops with it, he said 7-10 days but i suspect it could be longer! should have other developments in the mean time.

car felt nice an light driving over there, probly less than 800 kg lol.

Ralph

Still so impressed but what will the colour in the end be ?

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only White again! want it looking nice an standard!

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Posted 14/4/2011 10:47 AM (#604154 - in reply to #407590)
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few pics of it, its wrong having filler on the rear 1/4 but i dont want to go upsetting the car by removing panels, an its sounds so should be fine.

dropped a door an the wings down today, will try an get pics of it goign through the process of looking shiny.

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Posted 16/4/2011 7:22 AM (#604521 - in reply to #407590)
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here what my bottom ball joints will look like, very similar to jasons! just waiting on titanium half nuts.

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Posted 16/4/2011 7:27 AM (#604524 - in reply to #407590)
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Wouldn't worry Ralph most of the filler will be knocked back anyway

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Getting there now mate

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Posted 19/4/2011 1:39 PM (#605333 - in reply to #407590)
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hes doing way more than i expected especially as £550 was the estimate lol.

said he wants to take the heater box out to spray behind it, which is good as i wanted it out anyway so i could make an ali base.

Ralph

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Posted 22/4/2011 9:19 AM (#605740 - in reply to #407590)
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update of its progress, how much would this kind of job usually cost??? hes started ont he panels as well.

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Posted 24/4/2011 1:56 PM (#605968 - in reply to #407590)
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lookin slick

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Posted 25/4/2011 8:06 AM (#606016 - in reply to #407590)
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shes primed, looks weird looking at the 1/4 with no fuel filler cap!

also found a chap who will finish off my bonnet mold and make me a glass fibre bonnet cheap, so i left the mold with him, he will have the first stage done (just the skin) in a month or so as hes pretty busy, i will then sort out hinge/catch mounts.

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Posted 25/4/2011 8:35 AM (#606018 - in reply to #407590)
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So when do we reckon this beast will be on the road?

Also what paint job you getting, Maybe some Sport C pillar vinyls would be good.

lol

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Posted 25/4/2011 8:54 AM (#606020 - in reply to #407590)
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probably be complete in a week or so, its run out of MOT an tax so need to do both them an she will be my everyday car again! cant wait.

Ralph

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Posted 26/4/2011 9:02 AM (#606153 - in reply to #407590)
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looks really good without the fuel cap, cant wait to see it finished!

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mayoturbo - 26/4/2011 5:02 PM

looks really good without the fuel cap, cant wait to see it finished!

not as much as me.... just want it driving again. no other car compares

chap spraying it drove it from the prep booth to the spray booth an even he said how nice it drove!

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Posted 27/4/2011 2:45 PM (#606331 - in reply to #407590)
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today it got the primer flatted back, he recons they will have it ready to be sprayed an maybe sprayed tomorrow, had a few rush jobs in so its not got on to far. getting there tho!

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Posted 27/4/2011 2:58 PM (#606338 - in reply to #407590)
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Coming on well Ralph, cant wait to see it have the paint it deserves.

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Posted 1/5/2011 12:42 PM (#606786 - in reply to #407590)
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while tidying up the garage i found some more good culprits to be made from titanium, as i have discs all round i have 4 of each, would be an extra tiny bit of unsprung weight lost!

not seen the car today but probly will tomorrow, last saw it yesterday an hes really gone to work on it, after flatting it down it cant of been perfect as hes done some more filler work with extra fine filler, said it was for where theres tiny scratches etc, also work done on the boot/bonnet/doors/wings.

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Posted 1/5/2011 3:40 PM (#606827 - in reply to #606786)
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Sounds like hes really going to town on it! I wish all body shops were as dedicated as yours, most just seem to think 'its only a bloody metro' and don't seem to take as much care over it. Can't wait to see it finished!

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Posted 3/5/2011 2:30 PM (#607165 - in reply to #407590)
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this was yesterday, didnt manage to get down there today, he really is going for it, heater box out, started pulling the loom out of the engine bay.

guessing it may well have its last coat of primer on now ready for top coat. will see it tomorrow.

Ralph

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Posted 4/5/2011 11:34 AM (#607325 - in reply to #407590)
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its the right colour again!!

he said its not perfect an will need wetting back an polishing once complete but its fine for what i want an paid, so is a result! wont be long now!

got heaps of new parts to go on just need some new or good condition bumpers.

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Posted 4/5/2011 11:52 AM (#607331 - in reply to #407590)
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love it ralph ,good job.....

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Thanks, an yeah got the lights in, having the new bits is really going to show it off. hopefully will look like a new car, not an old one with new paint job.

Ralph

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Posted 5/5/2011 1:55 PM (#607618 - in reply to #407590)
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If you are paying £550 you have a bargain

They have paid a bit of care and attention aswell which is rare unfortunately nowaday's.

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Posted 6/5/2011 3:50 PM (#607869 - in reply to #607618)
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Its like a completely different car

Looking good, just in time for the summer too

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Posted 5/5/2011 3:47 PM (#607645 - in reply to #407590)
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as always ralph looking good hope you get her on the road soon

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Posted 7/5/2011 8:37 AM (#607942 - in reply to #407590)
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Posted 7/5/2011 8:43 AM (#607943 - in reply to #407590)
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Looking good Ralph nice to see it getting ever closer to being painted up

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Posted 7/5/2011 9:01 AM (#607945 - in reply to #407590)
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cant wait to see it with all the panels back on! are you going to run stock decals etc?

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Posted 7/5/2011 12:07 PM (#607961 - in reply to #407590)
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Can we have a pic of it as you got it and finished next to each other when your done. I think this will be in the same sort of attention league as Daz's turbo at shows.

I love that car. lol

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Posted 8/5/2011 2:00 PM (#608166 - in reply to #407590)
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yes stock decals, handy i thought i have the coach line for 1 side new, was goign to get both replicated but turns out its both sides in one.

will get the Metro bits replicated.

its coming on very well, bonnets got tad bit of rust on it still but i said to him just to get a coat of paint on it as i have the glass fibre one coming soon anyway so not worth wasting time on.

thanks for the comments to, i dont think it will ever be much of a show car, if for no other reason i drive it to much an dont clean cars very often lol. will try an keep it clean tho! i just want it looking like a good condition standard vehicle

like it was ment to be like it!

and yes i will park it up in as closer place as it was in previous pics an get some photos once its done, i got some of the metro auto i bought all them years ago, and it pre paint!

Ralph

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Posted 8/5/2011 2:37 PM (#608177 - in reply to #407590)
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Looking good!

Next to get some protection on it after a few months, makes life soooo much easier and i think even you will be able to keep on top of it

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Posted 8/5/2011 2:43 PM (#608179 - in reply to #407590)
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Ralph that does look good mate

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Posted 9/5/2011 2:14 PM (#608402 - in reply to #407590)
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pandy you will have to let me know more about what to do to it!

anyway its home! he said he still needs to paint the sill level bit of the wings with wax oil stuff, an hes still got to dot he bumps but thats about it now, i just got to reasemble it now!

its not perfect but is well done, few tiny dents which are visible now its glossy but is fantastic for the money and most importantly its the correct colour and is no longer rusting away! im very happy with it, is exactly the job i was after, an very cheap!

Ralph

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Posted 9/5/2011 2:21 PM (#608403 - in reply to #407590)
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good progress mate looking sweet

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Posted 9/5/2011 2:27 PM (#608406 - in reply to #407590)
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Looks like new

, needs some new wheels tho

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Posted 9/5/2011 2:37 PM (#608410 - in reply to #608406)
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thanks for the comments,

shep123 - 9/5/2011 10:27 PM

Looks like new

, needs some new wheels tho

i got 3 new wheels, an these are pretty good condition so if i cant find another new one i will clean up the best one off the car.

Ralph

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Posted 9/5/2011 4:00 PM (#608421 - in reply to #407590)
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Ralph forgive me if you've already answered this but what are you doing with the heat? That engine is going to make your car very hot?

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Posted 10/5/2011 3:31 AM (#608488 - in reply to #407590)
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no heat comes in to the cabin at all, the panels are made from 25mm foam with glass fibre either side, carpet on the inside and foil covered insulation stuff on the engine side. even where the exhaust is you dont feel any heat on the inside of the panel. exhaust is wrapped to to minimise heat being given off.

its a pleasant car to drive, fraction noisy for me but i will quieten it down eventually, probly quieter than alot of other cars on here tho!

Ralph

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Posted 10/5/2011 10:29 AM (#608551 - in reply to #407590)
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goign to start putting bits back on now....

my progress today, made a start at making door hinges, hopefully these will end up being ali hinges, with bronze bushings and titanium studs/spring/pivot. would make very good weight saving.

Ralph

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Posted 10/5/2011 1:00 PM (#608597 - in reply to #407590)
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omg thats one stunning metro ralph looks amazing

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Posted 10/5/2011 1:37 PM (#608609 - in reply to #407590)
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2 updates in 1 day

heres the door i have almost fully assembled, just the rest oft he furniture to get on, took me ages as i got the link wires from the door handle/lock wrong about 8 times an kept having to take the catch out to change it lol.

outer door handles brand new, and it fixed in with titanium nuts! soon will order titanium wire to make all the link wires from.

passenger door now shuts perfectly with its new door catch mechanism and door striker! old cars dont have to feel old!

an thanks nwarl, it is finally coming together!

Ralph

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Posted 16/5/2011 11:33 AM (#609507 - in reply to #608609)
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std window winders? im dissapointed

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Posted 11/5/2011 2:34 AM (#608666 - in reply to #407590)
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Few things to you Ralph car looks Million times better now

good work doing what uve done so far and keep it up, im sure reading this that the engine you have in now its just a donor engine? u had another the same with abut more tweeks and performance aint you? Also your making it lighter would fibre glass bonnet and boot be helpful?

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Posted 12/5/2011 12:17 PM (#608914 - in reply to #407590)
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check out these bad boys! all together they weight less than 50 grams!

these will also be forsale.

Ralph

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Posted 12/5/2011 1:20 PM (#608943 - in reply to #608914)
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ralphh85 - 12/5/2011 8:17 PM

check out these bad boys! all together they weight less than 50 grams!

these will also be forsale.

Ralph

dibs!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Posted 12/5/2011 1:56 PM (#608949 - in reply to #608943)
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This is looking the dog's Blk's!

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Posted 12/5/2011 2:08 PM (#608952 - in reply to #608949)
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Wood - 12/5/2011 9:56 PM

This is looking the dog's Blk's!

if i may say so myself......... yes i quite agree

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Posted 13/5/2011 4:38 AM (#609014 - in reply to #608952)
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ralphh85 - 12/5/2011 2:08 PM

Wood - 12/5/2011 9:56 PM

This is looking the dog's Blk's!

if i may say so myself......... yes i quite agree

lol funny, nice work mate

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Posted 12/5/2011 12:26 PM (#608918 - in reply to #407590)
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i laughed when i read you were planning on getting it down to 600kgs, now i am in admiration

Also glad its not a show car, cars should be driven not polished

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Posted 13/5/2011 1:49 PM (#609093 - in reply to #608918)
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djwilma - 12/5/2011 6:26 PM

Also glad its not a show car, cars should be driven not polished

Whats wrong with looking good as you thrash the pants off others

Ralph, just stop being a tart with all your fancy bits.... send them to me instead

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Posted 15/5/2011 1:31 PM (#609371 - in reply to #407590)
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they are all forsale matt

well most anyway....

today got all my titanium wheel nuts on, puts a load more bits back on, both doors complete, bonnet end complete, just need to finish fitting the boot pop so i can assemble the boot.

hopefully have my head lining shortly, then will have a nice black head lining to match the rest of the black interior.

in a mad hurry to MOT it as theres a little local classic car meet next weekend an i was asked if i wanted to turn up. its organized by a local national trust guy, an they are planning an under the radar hill climb up the road away from the national trust property, should be amusing!

Ralph

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Awesome Ralph

People take nowt - this is how u build a propa car

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Posted 16/5/2011 5:02 AM (#609434 - in reply to #407590)
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booked in for MOT on wednesday, different tester so will see what this one thinks! i know this chaps far more stringent!

Ralph

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Posted 16/5/2011 7:49 AM (#609461 - in reply to #407590)
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Posted 16/5/2011 1:43 PM (#609545 - in reply to #407590)
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fair play that looks awesome after the respray. Deffonatly need a passenger ride in this when done.

The lightweight pg1 parts look good! I hope they are strong that iem on the right that holds the case is a mega hard to budge so be need to withstand alot of abuse!

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Posted 17/5/2011 2:06 PM (#609697 - in reply to #407590)
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not a hole load i can do about the window winders!

wouldnt say my chances are good on the mot, considering i have never had a car pass first time, ever!

still not put the bumpers on as waiting for some glue to go off where i glued some of the lugs back on.

got 2 of the light weight plugs on. body shop did a good job of waxoiling under arches.

Ralph

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Posted 18/5/2011 12:25 PM (#609869 - in reply to #609697)
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ralphh85 - 17/5/2011 8:06 PM

not a hole load i can do about the window winders!

http://www.motorspeed.com/store_main.asp?int_product_id=2182

im sure you could knock something up!

Drew

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Posted 18/5/2011 2:04 PM (#609880 - in reply to #407590)
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well, what where the chances of that, i took it so a very stringent tester, was hour an 20mins from driving in to driving out, and it passed first time

never had any car pass first time an i have moted quite a few cars!

shes taxed an back on the road, will start clocking them miles up again now, taking it to the body shop again tomorrow to have the stickers i have put on, which includes coach lines and boot sticker, hes going to get some vinyl stuff so hopefully he can do the door/B piller bits and the door rubber look alike stickers. and will get the "Metro" stickers done soon to.

pics not to good, its dark outside!

i think the plastic winders are probly lighter than ali ones! i do want black ones tho.....

Ralph

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Posted 18/5/2011 2:23 PM (#609883 - in reply to #407590)
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Looking good and well done for making it legal.....

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Posted 18/5/2011 10:23 PM (#609895 - in reply to #407590)
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excellent. not seen the fuel cap before, looks odd!

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Well done mate

Happy for you

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Posted 19/5/2011 4:39 AM (#609929 - in reply to #407590)
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There was a load of Genuine MG/ Austin/ Rover Metro decals on ebay recently. I believe they belonged to MG Mal on the Metro Owners Club if it's any help

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Posted 19/5/2011 5:41 AM (#609935 - in reply to #407590)
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thanks for the comments!

have messaged MG Mal, having some bits off him for it anyway, i dout he has clubman decals tho, they seem to be rare.

Ralph

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Posted 19/5/2011 2:11 PM (#610004 - in reply to #407590)
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daylight photos, got the stickers put on which i got on ebay, left the body shop chap the bits he needs to sort the rest.

one thing which was weird was the coach lines down the side, they seem shorter than the originals, didnt come much further than the side repeaters, where as originals did, but i have no idea who they would be like that. if it bothers me i can always pull them off an get ones made longer!

Ralph

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Posted 19/5/2011 2:17 PM (#610006 - in reply to #407590)
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Thats come out really well, progress on the body is good. Whats next now its nearly finished?

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Posted 19/5/2011 2:21 PM (#610010 - in reply to #407590)
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build the 3.9 engine,
reduce weight,
make black head lining,
clean that bird shit off the bumper,
fit new wheels,
GRP bonnet will be done soon, if that comes out good then move on to wings/slam panel/doors an boot maybe.
CDS tubular subframes,

shes got a few years left in it yet!

Ralph

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Posted 20/5/2011 12:44 AM (#610062 - in reply to #610010)
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clean that bird shit off the bumper,
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Nice comment - PMSL !

Looking good Ralph.

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Posted 20/5/2011 2:24 AM (#610074 - in reply to #610062)
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ralphh85 - 19/5/2011 2:21 PM
clean that bird shit off the bumper,
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Nice comment - PMSL !

Looking good Ralph.

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thats whats expected to drag on for a few years!

really tho there is so much more planned, only time and money holding it back.

Ralph

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Posted 19/5/2011 2:24 PM (#610012 - in reply to #407590)
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Bootlid looks weird without the latch button. Really nice project, the perfect sleeper.

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Posted 22/5/2011 7:49 AM (#610367 - in reply to #407590)
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more pics of the event here......... http://www.metropower.org.uk/forum/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=67168&posts=2#M610365

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Posted 23/5/2011 3:18 AM (#610485 - in reply to #407590)
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How is it running ralph all good? What do you think to it?

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Posted 26/5/2011 1:04 PM (#611165 - in reply to #407590)
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shes lovely to drive, as smooth as a pint of john smiths!

in my element today, more titanium goodies, center nuts, disc retaining bolts and caliper bolts, thats over 1kg of unsprung mass gone now!

Ralph

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Posted 26/5/2011 1:53 PM (#611177 - in reply to #407590)
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i now have titanium M5 and M6 bolts, i will be able to go through the car an replace lots of bolts with these now.

Titanium center nuts are forsale to, see forsale section.

Ralph

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Posted 29/5/2011 3:21 PM (#611604 - in reply to #407590)
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got my new roof lining mostly put in today, im not a massive fan of stuff like this but its quite satisfying to have it in an looking nice, got the look i wanted of making the inside less visible, helps make it less obvious its any different to another metro.

needs a few more bits an need to sort myself some black sun visors and sunroof handle, a mate has just bought a flocking company, so may get the sunroof handle bit flocked black, along with the sun visor plastic screw in bits.

Ralph

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Posted 3/6/2011 11:01 AM (#612278 - in reply to #407590)
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my fibreglass bonnet skin is laid up and will be ready to come out of its mold on monday! just need to sort the hinge mounts an catch mount then.

my boot lids slightly twisted, so going to try an soon make a glassfibre boot lid to.

Ralph

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Posted 3/6/2011 12:40 PM (#612291 - in reply to #407590)
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Looking good fella. Are those slats above the drivers rear light standard or there for something?

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Posted 3/6/2011 3:21 PM (#612322 - in reply to #612291)
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Pandy - 3/6/2011 8:40 PM

Looking good fella. Are those slats above the drivers rear light standard or there for something?

mk1 had them on both sides, mk2 left them off the exhaust side, i suspect to do with fumes making there way in, then i think later ones left out both, they also have a little hole behind the tail light with a rubber flap over it.

An thanks

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Posted 8/6/2011 12:57 PM (#612925 - in reply to #407590)
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have been decidedly slack with this lately, but have been driving it every day which makes it all worth it.

got a little further with door hinges, however just dicided today im goign to fold them a different way, found i can fold them might tighter without stressing the metal so much.

and just waiting for my titanium studs and springs to arrive. also think i made my mind up how im goign to arrange the bushes and pins.

Ralph

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Posted 11/6/2011 5:20 AM (#613301 - in reply to #407590)
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just creamed my pant's

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Posted 11/6/2011 12:14 PM (#613349 - in reply to #407590)
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since theres little progress on on projects to document i thought i would get some pics of it out an about, went for a drive round today an burnt 3/4 of a tank lol.

in the back round of pic 4 you can see where it was parked in pic 1 and 2 on the far side of the river mouth.

on other news i dropped the mg metro bonnet down tot he place making the fibre glass bonnet so they can glass in all the hinge mounts an catch mounts etc, so hopefully that will be ready for painting sometime soon.

Ralph

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Posted 13/6/2011 1:06 PM (#613701 - in reply to #407590)
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got some of the other hinge bits cut out and folded, hopefully the next set will be acurate enough to be put together as a prototype and fitted.

Ralph

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Posted 14/6/2011 2:37 AM (#613787 - in reply to #407590)
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6th picture looks like uve gone into the bush mate

looking good, i really like them new door parts uve made

they fit mine?

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Posted 14/6/2011 9:10 AM (#613862 - in reply to #407590)
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This car is the ultimate sleeper. I fooking love it

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Posted 27/6/2011 12:02 PM (#615794 - in reply to #407590)
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Thanks for the comments, yeah hinges are same across all ages i believe. im making some 6R4 ones atm to.

anyway bit further with them now as got the titanium springs and the dies to press int he bits which stick out on the top hinge if that makes sense... see pic!

just waiting on the titanium studs now, then i should be able to get a set on my car!

also while i ordered the springs i got them to send me some small titanium wire to make the door catch rods from, will also make the locking ones to. should save another 50 grams lol.

Ralph

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Posted 4/7/2011 1:54 PM (#616738 - in reply to #407590)
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got a bit further with my inner door handles, the body bit and the pin will be ali, will go well with the titanium rod.

glass fibre bonnet is apparently pretty much done, hopefully they have done a decent job. that way they can do boot/slam panel an maybe a sun roof.

Ralph

if anyone has black door handles i want them!!

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Posted 4/7/2011 3:23 PM (#616764 - in reply to #407590)
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can you do me a set of the hindges ralph when there done

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Posted 5/7/2011 8:48 AM (#616848 - in reply to #616764)
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dazbooker - 4/7/2011 11:23 PM

can you do me a set of the hindges ralph when there done

will PM you once i have them sorted an are ready to produce them, the titanium studs are done and on route to me now.

should have some more updates when that batch of stuff gets here.

also just designing my light weight foam/glass fibre steering wheel!

Ralph

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Posted 5/7/2011 11:55 AM (#616868 - in reply to #407590)
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my new side repeaters, bought them while i was in scotland the other week, all but one light is new now, just need the last fog light.

Ralph

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Posted 7/7/2011 1:23 PM (#617155 - in reply to #407590)
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ok, almost there on the hinge front! these are taking far longer than planned but are looking good.

got the bronze bushes made, just need a tiny change to the body parts an they are done, and need to make the titanium bits which will hold the little wheel on. also the titaniums tuds are only 40 miles away do should be delivered tomorrow! its possible the lower hinges could be complete tomorrow.

also hopefully off to pick up some foam for my new steering wheel.

Ralph

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Posted 7/7/2011 1:52 PM (#617160 - in reply to #407590)
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You need a new fog light? I bought a rear one from AK but its for the LH which is on the A series as standard isnt it?

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Posted 7/7/2011 1:59 PM (#617163 - in reply to #407590)
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i cant remember which im missing, they are different R to L, i got both the same side. will check an let you know!

Ralph

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Posted 9/7/2011 9:01 AM (#617465 - in reply to #407590)
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the start of my custom light weight steering wheel, keeping it light should improve feel through the steering as it wont damp the feel of the road as much.

plan is to stick both parts together, shape it very similar to a standard metro one and leather cover the outside an either vinyl wrap or flock the inside.

also got some new titanium bits an bobs im gonna go fit now...

Ralph

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Posted 9/7/2011 11:02 AM (#617480 - in reply to #407590)
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And... the hinge studs came, they go in a treat, and also fitted titanium bolts to hold the seats down. ideal now i dont need to use a bloody torque drives.

Ralph

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Posted 12/7/2011 2:21 PM (#618099 - in reply to #407590)
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got my first door hinge fitted an seems to be a result, went in fine, door opens as per normal.

also i originally made my gear stick box from stainless, donno what i was thinking lol. so here the ali one with titanium bolts, hopefully bit it at the weekend.

Ralph

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Posted 16/7/2011 11:46 AM (#618799 - in reply to #407590)
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well i got the glass fibre bonnet an its good, half thr weight of original, its being painted now.

and swapped the door catch bolts and the window winder mechanism bolts/nuts with titanium ones, an fitted the ali door handle bit.

also got the top door hinge fitted.

bit more weight lost.

Ralph

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Posted 19/7/2011 3:07 PM (#619292 - in reply to #407590)
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got some new rear tyres, will fit them to my new wheels. will try an film some fun on the old ones before i change them!

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Posted 19/7/2011 3:31 PM (#619298 - in reply to #407590)
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Did you get the new alloys from rimmer bros?
Also i bet you get some funny looks when people see you filling up the car at the front wing

Connor.

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Posted 21/7/2011 7:08 AM (#619580 - in reply to #407590)
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nah wheels off ebay, got 3.... one went missing in the post.... aint paying rimmer prices, will keep my eyes on ebay as they come up every now an than.

may buy some center caps off rimmers.

Ralph

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Posted 21/7/2011 7:19 AM (#619585 - in reply to #407590)
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Fast parts in Croydon [that also has the fibreglass bonnets] has 1 of these GTi SPI alloys BRAND NEW for £40 I think he wants.

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Posted 21/7/2011 9:05 AM (#619591 - in reply to #407590)
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cheers for the heads up, just spoke to him, he has 1 new an 2 almost new by sounds of it.

Ralph

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Posted 21/7/2011 9:36 AM (#619600 - in reply to #619591)
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Yes, I have seen all 3. The new one us mint! Brand new and sitting on his shelf along with some A series wheels and mini ones. The other 2 are practical new with couple chips and storage marks.

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Posted 21/7/2011 3:41 PM (#619708 - in reply to #407590)
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Are you still using a-series hubs? GTI wheels won't fit

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Posted 21/7/2011 3:44 PM (#619709 - in reply to #407590)
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i think he is using k series, due to the use of the F/Tf subby? not sure which one your using raplh, i know its one of two?

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Posted 21/7/2011 4:17 PM (#619711 - in reply to #407590)
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He has GTi wheels on it atm...

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Posted 24/7/2011 3:22 AM (#620076 - in reply to #407590)
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has mgf hubs on the front and k series metro on the rear, as said already have the SPi's on it.

anyway, got the drivers side door hinges on yesterday, with titanium pins this time, other nice thing about these is the door has fook all play it in now.

also got a pic of the bonnet, the chap whos spraying it has just been cutting out the slots.

Ralph

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Posted 24/7/2011 3:28 AM (#620078 - in reply to #407590)
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sell me a bonnet when theyre done

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Posted 24/7/2011 10:22 AM (#620104 - in reply to #407590)
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love the hinges ralph. they look extremely nice

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Posted 25/7/2011 3:47 AM (#620216 - in reply to #407590)
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thanks, an if your interested freddie i will get a price on making another.

had good weekend, got my ali gear stick box fitted, and tighted my alternator belt so it doesnt squeek every morning now! only took me about 10 months to get round to it lol.

will have pics of bonnet soon as hopefully will be done soon.

Ralph

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Posted 26/7/2011 2:23 PM (#620511 - in reply to #407590)
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got round to starting shaping the steering wheel, the foam is very dense, had to use a grinder with course sander and a hack saw blade, sanding it takes yonks.

hopefully get both parts mostly done tomorrow.

Ralph

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Posted 29/7/2011 10:33 AM (#620968 - in reply to #407590)
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them useless bits of foam are looking more like a steering wheel now! pitty missed the place which sell the fibre glass today, so dout i will be able to glass any of it this weekend but might be able to find some.

Ralph

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Posted 30/7/2011 10:14 AM (#621102 - in reply to #407590)
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put my new rear wheels/tyres on today and it would have been rude not to do some.....

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not that great donuts really but the sounds good!

Ralph

Edit: gay it doesnt work but you can still link to video. if anyone knows how to fix it let me know.

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Posted 30/7/2011 10:35 AM (#621107 - in reply to #407590)
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ACE!!!!

i will be so happy to see you at the meet, we'll all come find you if you dont.

you have made so much progress mate, it must be so good to finally enjoy it like that!

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Posted 30/7/2011 10:43 AM (#621108 - in reply to #407590)
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its not the first time shes been side ways lol, i try not to in the dry tho as i proved today it shreds the tyres v quick as theres alot of weight over them (compaired to a front engined car) but in the wet thats the standard way to do a U turn.

that was about 1/2 to 3/4 throttle in second gear!

Ralph

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Posted 7/8/2011 12:53 PM (#622337 - in reply to #407590)
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the GRP steering wheel at its next stage, needs a touch more glass, then just cleaning up fairing and wrapping, soemwhere i have a new one of them little "METRO" steerign wheel badges which i hope to put on it, cant find it atm tho.

Ralph

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Posted 7/8/2011 1:12 PM (#622339 - in reply to #622337)
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Looks good mate!

That looks a bit difficult to get perfect.

Better be able to see that wheel on the car on the 20th

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Posted 9/8/2011 1:50 PM (#622723 - in reply to #407590)
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i hope it will be on the car by then, along with the bonnet, will do my best anyway!

got it mostly cleaned up today, should be able to do a trial fit tomorrow and then start thinking about covering it.

inc boss its 800 grams so ultra light weight to!

Ralph

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Posted 9/8/2011 2:09 PM (#622728 - in reply to #407590)
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I hope if you come to PoL 2012 that your giving free rides down Low Hill Lane in this mean machine.

lol

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Posted 11/8/2011 1:57 PM (#623105 - in reply to #407590)
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2012 thats ages away but hopefully will be able to attend.

anyway got another cool shipment in which i have been after for ages, took me about 6 months to track both of these down.

Titanium wing bolts, they look really nice as are cnc machined rather than rolled, and also i have a bit of 4mm grade 5 titanium to make the hand brake ratchet mechanism from, now i should be able to make an alloy/titanium hand brake lever assembly. they also throw in some samples of smaller titanium screws, these are ones i enquired about which would fit things like the seat belt covers and carpet rail bits and many other places, might need to add a load of them to my next order!

Ralph

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Posted 14/8/2011 10:25 AM (#623501 - in reply to #407590)
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got a bit further with my steering wheel, and fitted the 8 top wing bolts, will do the other 22 when i have the motivation!

been promised the grp bonnet will be sprayed for next weekend (south west meet), and might get the steering wheel done to if im lucky.

Ralph

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Posted 14/8/2011 10:32 AM (#623502 - in reply to #407590)
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Have you ever considered Titanium seat bolts? The black painted torx bolts can get manky sometimes. Titanium would be cool.

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Posted 14/8/2011 11:30 AM (#623507 - in reply to #623502)
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Thanks Dan,

111Sli - 14/8/2011 6:32 PM

Have you ever considered Titanium seat bolts? The black painted torx bolts can get manky sometimes. Titanium would be cool.

see 2nd to top pic http://www.metropower.org.uk/forum/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=42039&start=857

not got any pics of them in place yet tho. i dont like torques bits so yeah they are much better, also if you want a set i have spares i can sell.

Ralph

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Posted 14/8/2011 12:06 PM (#623511 - in reply to #623507)
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ralphh85 - 14/8/2011 7:30 PM

Thanks Dan,

111Sli - 14/8/2011 6:32 PM

Have you ever considered Titanium seat bolts? The black painted torx bolts can get manky sometimes. Titanium would be cool.

see 2nd to top pic http://www.metropower.org.uk/forum/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=42039&start=857

not got any pics of them in place yet tho. i dont like torques bits so yeah they are much better, also if you want a set i have spares i can sell.

Ralph

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Posted 14/8/2011 10:40 AM (#623503 - in reply to #407590)
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Posted 17/8/2011 2:16 PM (#624197 - in reply to #407590)
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here is the standard mechanism ont he right, the a stainless test one i have cut out on the left to make sure it works, an if it does the titanium plate is underneath.

my existing one i bolted the front part of the hand brake through the rear hold and made a bracket to go along side to hold it in place, so this time i will make it so it fits in correct place from the start. i moved it due to the gearstick being set further back, an since i have seat right back it makes the driving position better.

i also made a mold to make GRP inner door handle surrounds, as one of the ones i had is broken so be nice to make new unbroken ones.

Ralph

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Posted 21/8/2011 10:13 AM (#624869 - in reply to #407590)
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got my new bonnet fitted, need to get the shut lines a bit better but other than that good, nice bit of weight saved as it 4 an half kg lighter!

Ralph

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Posted 21/8/2011 11:24 AM (#624877 - in reply to #624869)
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ralph i noticed the rear wheel track is slightley wider than standard
have you thoght about a metro turbo arch kit
think it will look excellant

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Posted 22/8/2011 2:25 AM (#624951 - in reply to #407590)
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yea, trying to keep it looking standard on the outside, the rear wheels need a little more camber which will help them sit in the arches a bit better.

Ralph

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Posted 22/8/2011 2:32 AM (#624952 - in reply to #407590)
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Posted 24/8/2011 10:23 AM (#625405 - in reply to #407590)
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what do you do when you cant find any non broken door catch surounds?

make your own GRP ones! front to are grp, back one old plastic one, need trimming up an cleaning but look good, and are lighter lol.

Ralph

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Posted 24/8/2011 11:09 AM (#625416 - in reply to #407590)
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Its weird seeing a working metro with the bonnet open and no engine!

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Posted 25/8/2011 8:47 AM (#625559 - in reply to #407590)
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you say that, i drove my mg metro for first time in a few months yesterday, an its weird having a back seat behind you? like somethings missing??

Ralph

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ralphh85 - 25/8/2011 4:47 PM

you say that, i drove my mg metro for first time in a few months yesterday, an its weird having a back seat behind you? like somethings missing??

Ralph

Lol, Not having all the engine noise coming from behind you

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Posted 18/9/2011 9:54 AM (#628414 - in reply to #407590)
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back from holiday and hopefully back on with this, i got a better bumper painted for the front as others a bit ropey.

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Posted 29/9/2011 11:32 AM (#629824 - in reply to #407590)
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decided to use a wilwood master for the clutch to as i want to try a different size or 2 and will match the brake ones, this will hopefully be the start of an all alloy/titanium pedal box.

the old threaded bit sticking out was massive and had a funny thread ont he end so the new ones smaller and titanium, will allow an adaptor to fit straight on to take the metro clutch pedal.

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Posted 4/10/2011 10:40 AM (#630277 - in reply to #407590)
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eventually sussed how to make the reservoir integral to the cylinder so i odnt need to bother with hoses an brackets for the reservoir.

would be nice to do this to the brakes one day.

just waiting on the little bit which connects it to the pedal then im away, then just need to get the new ali pipe in.

Ralph

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Posted 12/10/2011 10:30 AM (#631327 - in reply to #407590)
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well it works again, pulled it out the garage today.

today spied we had some ideal material to make the little door kicks out of, ultra light weight anyway, carbon fibre honeycomb panels, will cover them in black vinal stuff to match the black door cards/carpet etc.

also goign to fit a new front carpet section and fill in where its missing around where the gearstick was as mines further back.

Ralph

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Posted 12/10/2011 10:32 AM (#631328 - in reply to #407590)
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How light is this going to end up Ralph? Got a rough guesstimate?

Get some carbon wings and you might just be able to take off

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Posted 12/10/2011 11:36 AM (#631338 - in reply to #407590)
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keep on tweaking sir.

and thank you for reminding me about making these as I knew there was something I had to do on the 100, being in the
foot well I had forgotten about them, even when I replaced the bonnet cable the other week I still forgot when i took
the panel off lol.

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Posted 13/10/2011 2:49 PM (#631569 - in reply to #407590)
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can not wait for the updates, always the first journal i look for.
about time i started mine lol

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Posted 13/10/2011 2:49 PM (#631570 - in reply to #407590)
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can not wait for the updates, always the first journal i look for.
about time i started mine lol

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Posted 21/10/2011 10:15 AM (#632634 - in reply to #407590)
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its about 850 now, im sure 800s possible and 750 shouldnt be out of possibility, after all i have lost 50 kg without really doing anything substantial.

anyway finally got the kick panels cut out today, it almost seems a crime to cover them in black vinal lol.

Ralph

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Posted 21/10/2011 12:22 PM (#632667 - in reply to #632634)
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ralphh85 - 21/10/2011 4:15 PM

after all i have lost 50 kg without really doing anything substantial.

Ralph

Whats that diet called as I'm very interested in that as I don't have time for anything like going to the gym

Wont take long to cover these so I presume the next update will be tomorrow and the panels fitted along with the next modification

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Posted 21/10/2011 11:19 PM (#632719 - in reply to #407590)
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This is the most awesome build i have ever seen.
If you need need more weight savings, you could drill out the centers of the titanium bolts if you haven't already?
Something the formula one teams used to do to get ridiculously lightweight cars.

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Posted 27/10/2011 3:09 PM (#633711 - in reply to #407590)
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got one panel fitted!

but also got back on with the steering wheel, so hopefully that wont be much longer.

no drilling holes in bolts, most off them are pretty small so would be alot of work for very little.

Ralph

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Posted 1/11/2011 3:58 PM (#634329 - in reply to #407590)
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how to recon and re trim sun visors in black....

got some sticky back foam to replace the old fooked stuff and some vinyl type stuff to cover them in.

had to do this as had no sun visors fitted an winter sun has been blinding me!!

ralph

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Posted 2/11/2011 5:31 AM (#634350 - in reply to #407590)
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cant believe you didnt replace them with carbon or something....lol think of the weight. nice neat job though

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Posted 2/11/2011 5:41 AM (#634351 - in reply to #407590)
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Very nice sir, keep on reminding me of all the things I keep forgetting I need to sort lol

btw, straps and washers

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Posted 2/11/2011 6:40 AM (#634354 - in reply to #634351)
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flatcapmetro - 2/11/2011 12:31 PM

cant believe you didnt replace them with carbon or something....lol think of the weight. nice neat job though

well even carbon fibre would p[robly be heavier then cardboard so it stayed as it was, an theres no need for extra strength in sun visors!

R119GTA - 2/11/2011 12:41 PM

Very nice sir, keep on reminding me of all the things I keep forgetting I need to sort lol

btw, straps and washers

got new strap bits in yesterday, will have them freshly made soon, an washers done!

Ralph

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Posted 2/11/2011 5:07 PM (#634442 - in reply to #407590)
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i was only joking glad to see you even put thought into weight saving there ha.

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Posted 3/11/2011 12:18 PM (#634506 - in reply to #634442)
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flatcapmetro - 3/11/2011 12:07 AM

i was only joking glad to see you even put thought into weight saving there ha.

i did think about trying to replace the steel wire with titanium dont worry

Ralph

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Posted 15/11/2011 11:55 AM (#636255 - in reply to #407590)
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got both my sun visors done, fitted one al looks really good, photo makes it look different colour to the head lining but thats just because its more shiny, in life it looks spot on, just need to get the end plastic bits flocked black and a black sunroof handle an the interior will be there

because i used later ones they are lighter than A series standard to.

also fitted some dynamat hoodliner sound absorption stuff to the inside of the engine cover which has made it much better, and best bit was it was no heavier than the reflective heat stuff which was on there before.

should have a load of titanium and other interesting bits coming soon to.

Ralph

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Posted 17/11/2011 3:05 PM (#636648 - in reply to #407590)
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the steering wheel is pretty much there, hopefully have it bolted on soon, maybe this weekend. and shes less than a kg!

somewhere i have a little metro badge as fitted to standard steering wheels, might stick that in the center to!

Ralph

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Posted 17/11/2011 3:09 PM (#636650 - in reply to #407590)
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looks spot on that wheel mate, how you planing on bloting it up

alex

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Posted 17/11/2011 3:09 PM (#636651 - in reply to #407590)
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looks spot on that wheel mate, how you planing on bloting it up

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Posted 17/11/2011 3:13 PM (#636654 - in reply to #407590)
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valid question, with 4 titanium bolts from behind it, making a removing center would have been complicated. will stick pics up tomorrow.

Ralph

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Posted 17/11/2011 3:31 PM (#636657 - in reply to #407590)
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sound just wonderd that the last few times i visted you journal

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Posted 22/11/2011 10:28 AM (#637214 - in reply to #407590)
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some more goodies, Titanium Dash bolts, i will have titanium self tappers to go with them soon to.

and titanium clevis pins, will fit them to clutch master/slave, and not sure if theres any more on the metro. i have yet to source titanium R clips

Ralph

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Posted 22/11/2011 1:32 PM (#637250 - in reply to #407590)
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Nice titanium bits as always rallph. And that steering wheel and refurbised sun visor looks good

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Posted 24/11/2011 2:30 PM (#637481 - in reply to #407590)
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got the ti dash bolts fitted, and also my steering wheel, fitted it at a body shop so shes a bit dusty! does feel good tho.

Ralph

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Posted 30/11/2011 2:51 PM (#638226 - in reply to #407590)
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was trying to work out a way of pressing one of these in aluminum, but now thinking of making a grp one.... not sure tho.

Ralph

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Posted 14/12/2011 2:07 PM (#640079 - in reply to #638226)
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ralphh85 - 30/11/2011 10:51 PM

was trying to work out a way of pressing one of these in aluminum, but now thinking of making a grp one.... not sure tho.

Ralph

Really garish and basic idea, but... How about making a say an mdf mould, both positive and negative releifs then just putting a sheet of ali in it and whack it in a flypress? Drill the holes after, think itd work - in some form or another lol

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Posted 15/12/2011 7:11 AM (#640129 - in reply to #638226)
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p319 hok - 14/12/2011 10:08 PM

Really garish and basic idea, but... How about making a say an mdf mould, both positive and negative releifs then just putting a sheet of ali in it and whack it in a flypress? Drill the holes after, think itd work - in some form or another lol

mdf might work, however my plan was to bend a top an a bottom sheets from steel which would fit either side, then make some uprights which would also go in to the bit which has to stretch out, and press that. however i recon glass fibre will be lighter an probly easier. painted black will look pretty much standard to.

Ralph

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Posted 1/12/2011 2:39 PM (#638370 - in reply to #407590)
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ill have one if you can make one but not grp

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Posted 14/12/2011 8:29 AM (#640034 - in reply to #407590)
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looking like it will be GRP, anyway heres one for the health an saftey conscious out there, few things have been pissing me off about the seat belt buckle, its to high an my arm rests on it, an you cant fold it out the way, so i shortened it an it can now be folded back flat.

and i made the rivets out of titanium

touch wood will have some more parts arrive later today if parcel force pull there finger out

Ralph

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Posted 14/12/2011 11:42 AM (#640065 - in reply to #407590)
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not the most interesting bits in the world but...

titanium self tapping screws, these will fit in pretty much all places on the metro, dash, carpet rails, door pockets, seat belt covers, parcel shelf supports, list goes on...

did these as had a large order for a load of titanium axles (pictured) for a local company, and they had M8 counter sunk bolts in end so i ordered extra for me as they fit boot catch's an maybe some other places.

Ralph

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Posted 15/12/2011 10:02 AM (#640138 - in reply to #407590)
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doing some over time in work so fitted a pair of these!

these will be foresale to.... see forsale section.

another few grams shaved off

need to get round to making the titanium catch part to.

Ralph

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Posted 15/12/2011 12:04 PM (#640149 - in reply to #407590)
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as usual extreme attention to detail with you ralph

looks nice

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Posted 18/12/2011 12:49 PM (#640401 - in reply to #407590)
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Sizing up some more bolts which might get made but lighter

they are the ring of bolts which go round the gearbox and also the reverse idler bolt.

anyone be interested in a set of shiny titanium ones??? go well with the ali PG1 plugs!

Ralph

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Posted 21/12/2011 1:37 PM (#640776 - in reply to #407590)
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fitted a few of my titanium self tapping screws. got some more even more cool bits on order, the brake connectors which i think i photoed the steel ones earlyer.

might put dash bolts/screws in forsale section.

Ralph

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Posted 27/12/2011 1:53 PM (#641246 - in reply to #407590)
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been busy trying to get my new garage kitted out lately, but did go watch a landrover trial today, got my car rather muddy to!

been working out some new bits to get made to.

Ralph

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Posted 8/1/2012 12:59 PM (#642644 - in reply to #407590)
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replaced some more screws with titanium ones and a few bolts.

the big ugly thing at the back is the crank bolt (with starter dog thing) which im gonna replace with a standard hex headed titanium one hopefully.

also got some more goodies in the post hopefully be here in a day or 2.

also fitted other sun visor, and changed battery for a varta silver one which is 10 times better than the other cheaper type, not cranks the engine faster than idle i think lol.

Ralph

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Posted 8/1/2012 5:33 PM (#642670 - in reply to #407590)
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got the mold made for the outside skin of the boot.....

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Posted 9/1/2012 8:42 PM (#642885 - in reply to #407590)
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More titanium bits, bit more interesting to,

seatbelt bolts, unf brake pipe nuts for my clutch/brake master cylinders, m10x1 femail pipe nuts for the brake flexi pipe joints, male pipe nuts for rest of the joints, banjo bolts for the calipers and last half nuts to hold the flexi's to the bulkhead.

if anyone wants any of the above let me know.

Ralph

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Posted 10/1/2012 8:22 AM (#642969 - in reply to #642885)
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ralphh85 - 10/1/2012 4:42 AM

More titanium bits, bit more interesting to,

seatbelt bolts, unf brake pipe nuts for my clutch/brake master cylinders, m10x1 femail pipe nuts for the brake flexi pipe joints, male pipe nuts for rest of the joints, banjo bolts for the calipers and last half nuts to hold the flexi's to the bulkhead.

if anyone wants any of the above let me know.

Ralph

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These are not the parts you are looking for. (Obi Wan Kenobi)

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Posted 10/1/2012 9:03 AM (#642975 - in reply to #642969)
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jasonr - 10/1/2012 4:22 PM

STOP IT - your an evil evil man.

one of them is UNSPRUNG MASS you know

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Posted 11/1/2012 8:18 PM (#643311 - in reply to #407590)
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changed my seat belt bolts today, i forgot there was 8 till when i did it! 0.15kg saved is good tho.

Ralph

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Posted 12/1/2012 9:28 AM (#643405 - in reply to #407590)
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Please tell me you're bringing the V8 metro to the pride of Longbridge!

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Posted 12/1/2012 9:43 AM (#643407 - in reply to #407590)
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Stunning work as always

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Posted 12/1/2012 12:01 PM (#643422 - in reply to #407590)
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Bloody hell, Ralph! Been a while since I've been on here, how much does the car weigh now?

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Posted 12/1/2012 8:39 PM (#643476 - in reply to #407590)
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Thanks for the comments, might well make it to POL, will see nearer the time,

welcome back Edd! hard to say been trying to organise weighing it for ages now, probably about 850kg, a good weight loss considering i havent lost anything of any use or done anything big.

plenty more to go to.

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Posted 13/1/2012 5:52 PM (#643564 - in reply to #407590)
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some more fastenings replaced with titanium, 12 screws on the rear/fog lights an 4 bolts on the boot hinges.
need to make another order for parts as had some pulleys ordered, im just wondering if i should resist ordering the PG1 bolts or not!!

Ralph

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Posted 21/1/2012 7:44 PM (#644698 - in reply to #643564)
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ralphh85 - 13/1/2012 11:52 PM
im just wondering if i should resist ordering the PG1 bolts or not!!
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ill take a set off you.

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Posted 21/1/2012 12:41 PM (#644652 - in reply to #407590)
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been slack on this as been getting my other car through its mot an general other shite!

but shes getting lighter, almost less than 850!! didnt really know what to expect as had it painted etc which was all unknown weight gain.

got some more nice titanium bits coming to

Ralph

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Posted 21/1/2012 8:09 PM (#644709 - in reply to #407590)
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iv been away for so long and this is still one of the best on here

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Posted 22/1/2012 12:32 PM (#644774 - in reply to #644709)
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Roverdose - 21/1/2012 7:44 PM

ill take a set off you.

they will be here this week! didnt bother with the reverce idle bolt tho, that might follow in the future. they might not be particuly cheap tho as theres quite a few bolts there, think its 12 small 2 long. will pm you when they are here if your interested.

martsmetro - 21/1/2012 8:09 PM

iv been away for so long and this is still one of the best on here

Thanks glad some people enjoy reading

Ralph

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Posted 23/1/2012 9:46 PM (#645050 - in reply to #407590)
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here they are! weight nout an as theres so many definitely worth it.

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Posted 23/1/2012 10:16 PM (#645058 - in reply to #645050)
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ralphh85 - 24/1/2012 5:46 AM

here they are! weight nout an as theres so many definitely worth it.

Ralph

What a hero !!!

If i do a weight weenie / track whore these are going in ! Have you made the heads a normal size instead if a god dam 12 ?

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Posted 24/1/2012 7:31 PM (#645142 - in reply to #407590)
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fraid they are 12's lol.

fitted 10 of them today, rest will have to wait till engine/box is out which wont be long i hope.

these an the plugs gives half a kg saved from the box, an when i open it up im sure i will find more.

Ralph

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Posted 25/1/2012 12:01 PM (#645224 - in reply to #407590)
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Hope to be fitted a new engine in a few months, eyeing one up to buy now, while im at it i will take the gearbox apart an fit a type B diff, looking at pictures of gearboxes apart an thought....

... titanium diff bolts?!?!

should be strong enough, only one way to find out really!

Ralph

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Posted 25/1/2012 12:14 PM (#645228 - in reply to #645224)
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ralphh85 - 24/1/2012 8:01 PM

Hope to be fitted a new engine in a few months, eyeing one up to buy now, while im at it i will take the gearbox apart an fit a type B diff, looking at pictures of gearboxes apart an thought....

... titanium diff bolts?!?!

should be strong enough, only one way to find out really!

Ralph

get the new engine in, thats all i am going to say.......

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Posted 26/1/2012 6:47 PM (#645449 - in reply to #407590)
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these are to heavy, gonna make an ali pair! brass is more dense than steel so definitely needs to go!!

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Posted 2/2/2012 9:52 PM (#646406 - in reply to #407590)
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eerr why have i still got one of these on my car??? just cadded up a nice ali one, should have almost 2kg!

anyway who needs saftey

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Posted 2/2/2012 9:59 PM (#646408 - in reply to #646406)
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ralphh85 - 2/2/2012 3:52 AM

eerr why have i still got one of these on my car??? just cadded up a nice ali one, should have almost 2kg!

anyway who needs saftey

Ralph

We drive metros, that little bit of metal isn't going to help much when the crumple zone is our faces...

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Posted 2/2/2012 10:02 PM (#646409 - in reply to #646408)
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MetroCJ - 2/2/2012 9:59 PM

We drive metros, that little bit of metal isn't going to help much when the crumple zone is our faces...

lol

anyway im sure the radiator does the same job as this heavy steel thing!

Ralph

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Posted 2/2/2012 10:47 PM (#646419 - in reply to #407590)
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would be interested in them brake T's mate

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Posted 3/2/2012 7:06 PM (#646518 - in reply to #407590)
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the new rad support, this one weighs only a few 100 grams! will make the little end bits which bolt tot he wing from ali and then bolt it all on with titanium bolts

nice to save 2kg from an extremity. and few less bits to go rusty. if i think it needs more support i will roll a piece of ali box section an weld it to the front of this part.

Ralph

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Posted 5/2/2012 6:49 PM (#646751 - in reply to #407590)
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got this finished an fitted, went on a treat an held the bumper really nice to, a great 2kg saved i recon! really need to do something similar tot he rear now as didnt save as much on that as i could.

also got another bumper on which is better painted an not faded on the corners.

Ralph

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Posted 9/2/2012 9:55 PM (#647269 - in reply to #407590)
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my next few targets, the u bolts aint gonna be easy as i have ordered some grade 2 round bar which i will need to tap the threads and bend it round somehow.

as i hope to be getting a replacement engine sometime soon im trying to get bolts made so i can change them when its out.

the engine seems to be bolted on with M12 bolts, same as caliper bolts but i need ones 10mm longer, and also alot longer like one in pic for the starter motor ones.

Ralph

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Posted 11/2/2012 7:54 PM (#647448 - in reply to #407590)
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rummaged through a box of PG1 bits to find diff bolts an found some more bits which might be possible to make from titanium, gonna have to sweet talk the local machinist i think lol.

the corner weights showed i had moved the center of gravity back, hopefully lose as much of the engine/box now.

Ralph

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Posted 12/2/2012 8:15 PM (#647543 - in reply to #407590)
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Brake T pieces, got my mate to machine them in to octagons and drill the holes, i then filed them round and tapped the holes, done one, go well with the titanium pipe nuts.

just really really want titanium brake pipe but not let myself buy it yet lol.

Ralph

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Posted 12/2/2012 8:34 PM (#647544 - in reply to #407590)
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What sort of weight saving is there on running titanium brake lines?

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Posted 12/2/2012 9:09 PM (#647548 - in reply to #407590)
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not much, but its the thought that counts lol. not sure how many meters of brake pipe are on a metro. i changed the clutch pipe to ali, an i plan on changing the fuel pipes to ali to, ali wouldnt really be advisable on brake lines so titanium be good!

Ralph

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Posted 12/2/2012 9:37 PM (#647553 - in reply to #407590)
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to answer your question roughly, i recon theres half a kg of brake pipe on a metro, so it would save half that, so be 1/4kg saved, the plan is to get a batch of pipe made an sell some, on light weight track an race cars it could be an extra bit of weight saved, think few people (maybe not metro owners) would be interested in it, also would be nice silver colour an never corrode so is an excellent material for pipes, its used for hydraulic pipes in things like fighter jets etc.

Ralph

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Posted 16/2/2012 10:20 PM (#648084 - in reply to #407590)
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Titanium bar which i intend on making a steering rack u bolt, got 2 pieces of grade 2 and 2 pieces of grade 5, i dout the gr5 will be possible to bend but gr2 should be ok.

Ralph

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Posted 17/2/2012 8:25 PM (#648177 - in reply to #407590)
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MP playing up so double post.

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Posted 17/2/2012 8:26 PM (#648178 - in reply to #407590)
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Could you make up new spacer blocks for the rack too, and then do some as kits as I have come across several vehicles which suffered from the blocks breaking when coming to do rack swaps.

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Posted 18/2/2012 12:29 AM (#648205 - in reply to #407590)
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could do, plan on doing some bolts which bolt through the u block bit, do you have any pics of broken ones? i took a look at them but didnt think i could better them from a weight aspect.

Ralph

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Posted 18/2/2012 6:23 PM (#648235 - in reply to #407590)
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got a Denso Alternator, only 40 amp but should be ok, they are the lightest available and they are used alot on kit cars because of it, think i will make mine lighter with alloy pulley an titanium nut an few other bits. would like to make the metal end bit from grp.

Ralph

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Posted 21/2/2012 8:00 PM (#648625 - in reply to #407590)
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silly one really but i have managed to make it for free so far, my titanium steering rack U bolt an the dies i made today to bend it, managed to bend the grade 5 bar to so it will be made from grade 5 as long as i can tap it ok, which is supposed to be really hard.

Ralph

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Posted 24/2/2012 10:25 PM (#649083 - in reply to #407590)
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my rack can now have a titanium u bolt!

really hope i can get on to some more fun advancements soon, hopefully new engine!

Ralph

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Posted 24/2/2012 10:34 PM (#649084 - in reply to #649083)
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Very good sir, did you have fun cutting thread then?

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Posted 24/2/2012 10:40 PM (#649085 - in reply to #407590)
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i found it real easy, just gave it to my friend Malcolm an asked him to do it lol. i have tapped internal threads in gr5 titanium an its not that bad, as always easier than the critics make out!

Ralph

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Posted 11/3/2012 2:20 PM (#651291 - in reply to #407590)
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lol shes making sounds an engine shouldnt make....

anyone know what it is? big end bearing? it doesnt happen all the time, and it sounds worse on the video than it does in life but still not very healthy!

im not to worried about it, i want a bigger engine anyway so might drive it till it blows up! its on almost 158k so not done badly really.

Ralph

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Posted 11/3/2012 5:22 PM (#651310 - in reply to #407590)
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yeah sounds deep, big end - piston comming apart.

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Posted 11/3/2012 5:56 PM (#651314 - in reply to #407590)
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anyone wanna gamble how long it will last

done 100 miles since it started, but like i said it doesnt do it all the time, seems it doesnt like certain RPM's, 1.5 - 2 ish on medium power.

Ralph

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Posted 11/3/2012 6:41 PM (#651324 - in reply to #407590)
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Doesn't sound too good

maybe pop the sump off and see if any of the big ends have play.

Has to be said, the engineering in this little Metro is fantastic. 10 out of 10 Ralph!

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Posted 12/3/2012 3:48 PM (#651458 - in reply to #407590)
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Cam follower.

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Posted 12/3/2012 3:50 PM (#651459 - in reply to #407590)
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Sounds like camshaft speed rather than crank speed, check to see if a cam rocker arm is loose
maybe indicating a worn cam follower, or a bent pushrod.

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Posted 12/3/2012 3:54 PM (#651460 - in reply to #407590)
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i kinda agree now you say that it does sound slower than crank speed, thats great news, she should go on for ages if its not bottom end lol.

got my eye on a few engines on ebay, just waiting to get paid hopefully this week so i can buy one

Ralph

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Posted 13/3/2012 11:53 AM (#651660 - in reply to #651460)
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ralphh85 - 12/3/2012 10:54 PM

i kinda agree now you say that it does sound slower than crank speed, thats great news, she should go on for ages if its not bottom end lol.

got my eye on a few engines on ebay, just waiting to get paid hopefully this week so i can buy one

Ralph

Whip the rocker covers off and check, (I want to know!!!), at least if it is cam/rocker related, its easy to sort, if its all ok, then
it could be piston/small-end/big end related as the noise could just be on the power stroke (cam speed),
its unlikely to be mains as they tend to rumble rather than knock.

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Posted 12/3/2012 4:21 PM (#651462 - in reply to #407590)
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drive it like its hired

5000

A rover v8 will run for ages as long as it has good oil pressure.
Even if the mains are down to the copper

Avoid over revving!
Its probably cam related though.

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Posted 12/3/2012 6:38 PM (#651480 - in reply to #407590)
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Not sure if I have mentioned this to you but my local scrappy has a p38 range rover in it with the big 4.4 V8 engine and LPG system fitted to it. I can get you pics and a price if you were interested in it for your metro as the owner is happy to put engines etc on a pallet for a courier to collect.

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Posted 13/3/2012 12:02 PM (#651662 - in reply to #407590)
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i actually think now i could be completely wrong, it may be the diff broken like type a's do, or maybe cv related, hard to tell as it doesnt do it often an often stops with RPM change. i have a brand new type B diff to go in which it hink will drive much better to.

i will find out sooner or later!

Ralph

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Posted 23/3/2012 1:39 PM (#653131 - in reply to #407590)
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not done anything to this recently other than cleaned it yesterday, we have a new presure washer/steam cleaner at work now!

tough wood theres a 4.6 engine finishing on ebay this weekend, hopefully have a bid on that, just been waiting for once to come up which is suitable.

Ralph

ow and my titanium brake pipe should be on way soon

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Posted 27/3/2012 7:50 PM (#653764 - in reply to #653131)
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ralphh85 - 22/3/2012 9:39 PM

tough wood theres a 4.6 engine finishing on ebay this weekend

sod the gearbox did you get the engine ?

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Posted 27/3/2012 7:52 PM (#653765 - in reply to #653764)
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djwilma - 27/3/2012 7:50 PM

ralphh85 - 22/3/2012 9:39 PM

tough wood theres a 4.6 engine finishing on ebay this weekend

sod the gearbox did you get the engine ?

the engine i was after got removed off ebay, moneys sitting waiting for one to come up on ebay.... i want a 4.6 THOR engine.

taken the car off the road now, so want one asap really.

Ralph

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Posted 27/3/2012 7:47 PM (#653762 - in reply to #407590)
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Gearbox bits as promised! didnt dare give him all 4 at once lol, will get the other 2 done soon, also thinking about boring a big hole down the middle of the reverse gear idler, i really dout it needs to be very strong. i suspect it was 20mm diameter just for bearing area.

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Posted 28/3/2012 10:37 PM (#654069 - in reply to #653762)
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ralphh85 - 28/3/2012 2:47 AM

Gearbox bits as promised! didnt dare give him all 4 at once lol, will get the other 2 done soon, also thinking about boring a big hole down the middle of the reverse gear idler, i really dout it needs to be very strong. i suspect it was 20mm diameter just for bearing area.

Ralph

I'd be a bit carefull about doing that, that shaft takes a fair bit of side load when reverse is selected,
as its almost 1st gear (lots of torque) going the wrong way, it'd be a shame to blow the reverse gear through
the casing!!

petrol_head

Posted 27/3/2012 8:31 PM (#653774 - in reply to #407590)
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drive it like its hired

5000

the thor engines are the same you know, especially if your using your mappable injection system.
the manifolds got more low down not noticable really

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Posted 27/3/2012 9:20 PM (#653792 - in reply to #407590)
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biggest reason for wanting thor is the manifold looks like it will souts my engine bay better, also probably lighter, else yes gems would be fine.

Ralph

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Posted 28/3/2012 12:22 AM (#653847 - in reply to #653792)
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drive it like its hired

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ralphh85 - 28/3/2012 3:20 AM

biggest reason for wanting thor is the manifold looks like it will souts my engine bay better, also probably lighter, else yes gems would be fine.

Ralph

Yes the manifolds are better in that way, but they also weigh a hell of allot,

Just get the best engine you can find imo

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Posted 28/3/2012 3:13 PM (#653956 - in reply to #407590)
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they cant be heavier than the gems etc manifolds surely??

my eyes are peeled on ebay!

Ralph

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Posted 30/3/2012 7:59 AM (#654331 - in reply to #407590)
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"ow and my titanium brake pipe should be on way soon"
Ralph its a pity you could not fit the rare mmc alloy brake discs from an early elise ( same pcd ) I have just removed some as I require alloy bells (for there bolts to be used as a sensor pick up )
the alloy disc only weighs six and a half pounds a steel disc weighs twelve pounds and the alloy caliper weighs next to nothing also

bob

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Posted 30/3/2012 5:16 PM (#654426 - in reply to #654331)
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Dave rcr - 28/3/2012 10:37 PM

I'd be a bit carefull about doing that, that shaft takes a fair bit of side load when reverse is selected,
as its almost 1st gear (lots of torque) going the wrong way, it'd be a shame to blow the reverse gear through
the casing!!

maybe i will only make it an 8mm hole then!

elise - 30/3/2012 7:59 AM

"ow and my titanium brake pipe should be on way soon"
Ralph its a pity you could not fit the rare mmc alloy brake discs from an early elise ( same pcd ) I have just removed some as I require alloy bells (for there bolts to be used as a sensor pick up )
the alloy disc only weighs six and a half pounds a steel disc weighs twelve pounds and the alloy caliper weighs next to nothing also

bob

my friend who has an elise said about these, not seen them myself but herd they where light, only thing is as i do a fairly high mileage i dont know how long they last? alloy calipers and bits are on the cards.

and talk of the brake pipe....

its awesome stuff, really light and should be great at its job, will try an get a bit pressure tested, i can get it tested to 250 bar but could do with more really.

Ralph

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Posted 30/3/2012 7:04 PM (#654454 - in reply to #407590)
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Ralph the discs last for ever if treated right
"One of the benefits of Adherent Friction is that under normal use the discs last a very very long time. When braking the pads transfer their material to the surface of the disc, and it is this layer that is broken down, not the disc suface. Therefore the discs suffer very little wear. Under very heavy use however, the bonds between the pad and disc cannot reform as fast as they are broken down, meaning areas of the disc can loose the material layer entirely. When this happens the abrasive friction of the pad can score away the disc surface making it too rough to rebuild the original material layer. If this happens braking performance from the disc is permanently damaged and the disc must be replaced."
but they fit under a 15 inch wheel only , they can be refaced but only with a diamond tip and heavy braking track's can destroy them

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Posted 1/4/2012 7:49 PM (#654715 - in reply to #654454)
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Thats interesting i didnt know any of that! sounds like they would have been ideal else!

Other news, i have a 4.6 Gems V8 coming to me soon, interestingly it was removed from a range rover which was being burnt for a film stunt! trying to find out more info on it!

Ralph

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Posted 7/4/2012 3:31 PM (#655714 - in reply to #407590)
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well it arrived this morning, unfortunitly rather than a track with a tale lift/pallet truck, TNT send a fook off great van with neither lol.

tlucky the driver was pretty friendly an happy for me to unpack it remove everything else (gearbox/rads) slide an pull the pallet out with a trolly jack under the back edge.

today i just been removing all the ancilaries, its nice removing all the shite which wont be going back on.

Ralph

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Posted 8/4/2012 10:19 PM (#655958 - in reply to #407590)
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Doesnt look much different in the pic but i have removed loads of bits and it now looks more like an engine which will fit in a metro.

you can tell weight just isnt an issue when dismantling these! only thing going back on is a small denso alternator an my tubular manifolds.

all the bits which i took off are forsale if anyone wants anything.... http://stores.ebay.co.uk/Component-Engineering

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Posted 9/4/2012 6:36 PM (#656091 - in reply to #407590)
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my PG1 gearbox fill plugs just happened to fit the oil cooler pipe take offs which will need to be blanked off.

hopefully getting my car back here tomorrow so i can remove the engine/subframe.

Ralph

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Posted 13/4/2012 8:03 PM (#656852 - in reply to #407590)
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well what i thought was a gearbox problem ended up to be a fooked CV joint, went to bring the car home got a mile from my mums and lost drive, RAC bloke pointed you can feel the cv ball bearings inside the boot lol, so good news should be fixed shortly.

started today but cant split the upper ball joint so need to buy a splitter tomoz, have spotted lots of nuts an bolts which need to be titanium, upper ball joint nuts and steering arm bolts.

Ralph

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Posted 13/4/2012 8:29 PM (#656863 - in reply to #407590)
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thats the same engine as in the p38 range rover right? is that about 220 bhp? how much did the old have?

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Posted 13/4/2012 8:41 PM (#656865 - in reply to #407590)
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old one standard 165, it did 150 at the wheels on the dyno, however thats with an emerald an no flapper air flow meter.

new ones 225, if changing the CV joint fixes the car i will run it with the old engine longer, and fit my ported heads an a new cam/followers to the new engine an delay fitting it. new engine should be in a different world to the old one, especially as the old ones now done 158k limes!

Ralph

edit an yes its from a P38 RR

Edited by ralphh85 13/4/2012 8:41 PM

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Posted 14/4/2012 9:59 AM (#656929 - in reply to #656865)
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ralphh85 - 13/4/2012 9:41 PM

old one standard 165, it did 150 at the wheels on the dyno, however thats with an emerald an no flapper air flow meter.

new ones 225, if changing the CV joint fixes the car i will run it with the old engine longer, and fit my ported heads an a new cam/followers to the new engine an delay fitting it. new engine should be in a different world to the old one, especially as the old ones now done 158k limes!

Ralph

yeah, ported heads etc. will make you metro quite fast I think

should be fun! (and expensive in fuel is that kind of thing matter to you

)

edit an yes its from a P38 RR

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Posted 14/4/2012 11:47 AM (#656940 - in reply to #407590)
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Nice updates, few more ponny's for ya

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Posted 14/4/2012 8:13 PM (#656966 - in reply to #407590)
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even tho its been posted in tech section this is the state of the cv joint. fixed it an its great now, so will hold up fitting new engine and fit the heads an a different cam hopefully.

thanks for the comments

Ralph

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Posted 15/4/2012 10:14 PM (#657269 - in reply to #407590)
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been nice driving the car again today! anyway i dug out the ported heads i will now be fitting them before i fit the engine, also started in alternator fitment, one of the cast ali parts almost fits on, just needs 13mm milled off the lug which the alternator if bolted to, then cut the rest of it away and i will have a neat little bracket. just need to make a tensioner to hold the other side of the alternator and job done.

Ralph

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Posted 17/4/2012 10:30 AM (#657578 - in reply to #407590)
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top job ralph. i love this build the most on here tbh, oh apart from mine of course

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Posted 17/4/2012 3:55 PM (#657633 - in reply to #407590)
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Thanks dude

i gave the alternator mount to my machinist guy today, and to my surprise it was done in about an hour! so will test fit it again today, then will need an adjustable stay to its easy to tension the alternator.

next up jobs will be to fit a water in pipe to replace the water pump, make a light weight smaller sump, an work out what to do in the way of lighter rocker covers.

Ralph

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Posted 17/4/2012 5:26 PM (#657646 - in reply to #407590)
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Didnt you already do those fibreglas rocker covers?

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Posted 17/4/2012 5:31 PM (#657648 - in reply to #407590)
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yeah i have but im not entirely sure of how well they are going to take the heat, i will either make some more with vynalester resin, or maybe make some ali ones, apparently the old buick V8 (which the rover was derived from) had pressed tin ones, which kinda made me want pressed ali ones!

either way the uber heavy 6-7mm ali ones have to go lol.

Ralph

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Posted 17/4/2012 10:26 PM (#657730 - in reply to #407590)
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Got the alternator on more or less as it should be, need a longer belt, and a tensioner. and clean up the mount so its a bit more pretty!

Ralph

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Posted 29/4/2012 7:15 PM (#659862 - in reply to #407590)
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i have bought a thor inlet manifold which will hopefully be more compact an lighter, hopefully shortly talk to a company about ordering a cam, followers valve springs etc,

Ralph

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Posted 29/4/2012 7:33 PM (#659866 - in reply to #407590)
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drive it like its hired

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Give real steel a call about the cams, I have one and they were very helpful and sell good quality bits

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Posted 3/5/2012 3:21 PM (#660471 - in reply to #407590)
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Bit of free fame for you, Ralph.

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Posted 3/5/2012 4:10 PM (#660480 - in reply to #407590)
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What is this 190bhp VVC Elise S1 engine you speak of?

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Posted 3/5/2012 4:27 PM (#660482 - in reply to #407590)
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As far as I was aware the Elise engine was 190bhp? Am I wrong in thinking that?

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Posted 3/5/2012 4:29 PM (#660483 - in reply to #407590)
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If so, *facepalm!*

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Posted 5/5/2012 5:05 PM (#660859 - in reply to #407590)
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yey fame lol

anyway i got a load more titanium to stick on my new engine! sump bolts, front cover/waterpump, engine to adaptor plate, rocker covers, exhaust and inlet bolts! and of course the diff bolts lol.

if anyone wants to try a set of diff bolts for £44 i fancy finding out if they break before i put them in mine

nah im sure they will be fine... i think. maybe.

on more pressing news i dropped the heads off to be skimmed an the valves re cut in.

Ralph

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Posted 8/5/2012 10:07 PM (#661413 - in reply to #407590)
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got the engine on to an engine stand i borrowed and got some more bits stripped off it.

once i have the heads back i will remove these and fit the new ones.

Ralph

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Posted 14/5/2012 9:44 PM (#662246 - in reply to #407590)
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Wow.

All this happening 2 miles away from me.

What an inspiration and I'll look forward to seeing it one day.

Ian

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Posted 14/5/2012 10:24 PM (#662257 - in reply to #662246)
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Smutmeister - 14/5/2012 9:44 PM

Wow.

All this happening 2 miles away from me.

What an inspiration and I'll look forward to seeing it one day.

Ian

bigger wow another member from cornwall!! where abouts are you based, actually in truro? i drive the car every day so you may have seen me out and about.

Ralph

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Posted 14/5/2012 10:34 PM (#662263 - in reply to #407590)
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Ralph,

I live in Penweathers and own Tyrrells gift shop in Carnon Downs - so I'm there 6 days a week.

I started off thinking my Metro was disposable banger rally fodder but have decided it's a keeper...with a few alterations. If you don't mind I'll be picking your brains.

Ian

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Posted 15/5/2012 10:35 AM (#662312 - in reply to #662263)
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Ahh cool, yeah what ever really if its metro related just ask, be happy to help!

Ralph

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Posted 15/5/2012 12:40 PM (#662326 - in reply to #407590)
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Ralph, would you get some K series sump nuts made in Titanium? Sorry if you already have them!

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Posted 15/5/2012 1:14 PM (#662333 - in reply to #407590)
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not done them but can, what size are they?? PM me!

Ralph

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Posted 16/5/2012 10:00 PM (#662561 - in reply to #407590)
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steering rack powder coated,

hopefully pick up the heads on friday,

got titanium rocker shaft bolts and head studs/nuts which is a controversial one.

Ralph

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Posted 18/5/2012 12:29 AM (#662752 - in reply to #662561)
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ralphh85 - 16/5/2012 10:00 PM

steering rack powder coated,

hopefully pick up the heads on friday,

got titanium rocker shaft bolts and head studs/nuts which is a controversial one.

Ralph

added a small grease nipple to mine. runs lots smoother now, just an idea for you mate

Alex

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Posted 18/5/2012 10:19 AM (#662780 - in reply to #662561)
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ralphh85 - 16/5/2012 11:00 PM

steering rack powder coated,

hopefully pick up the heads on friday,

got titanium rocker shaft bolts and head studs/nuts which is a controversial one.

Ralph

can you get the bushes and what ever it is inside an a-series steering rack to renovate it?

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Posted 18/5/2012 5:01 PM (#662835 - in reply to #662561)
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got titanium head studs/nuts which is a controversial one.

Ralph

i dont think they will take the torque. did you roll the threads or cut them?

Drew

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Posted 18/5/2012 11:54 AM (#662797 - in reply to #407590)
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where abouts did you put the bleed nipple alex? near the pinion?

i had planned on just reusing all the insides from another mgf rack, not sure if new bits are available.

Ralph

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Posted 18/5/2012 2:10 PM (#662811 - in reply to #662797)
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ralphh85 - 18/5/2012 11:54 AM

where abouts did you put the bleed nipple alex? near the pinion?

i had planned on just reusing all the insides from another mgf rack, not sure if new bits are available.

Ralph

yes mate althuo after looking you could fit it anywhere in the shaft as it compelty fills with grease anyway

Alex

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Posted 18/5/2012 5:36 PM (#662838 - in reply to #407590)
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would be cut, theres only one way to find out i guess! picked the heads up today will put picks up later.

Ralph

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Posted 18/5/2012 5:42 PM (#662839 - in reply to #407590)
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Ralph,
Stop pushing ahead so quickly - you'll ruin Cornwall's reputation for doing things dreckly.

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Posted 18/5/2012 6:18 PM (#662844 - in reply to #407590)
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dreckly?? i dont do dreckly, its got to be now!!

anyway heres the heads after there skim etc, they look nice now.

Ralph

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Posted 20/5/2012 5:53 PM (#663076 - in reply to #407590)
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whipped the old heads off, i think they look in good condition?? one looks a tad lighter coloured but i guess each bank probably runs at slight different temps? kinda dout the water flows perfect.

just need to get a cam kit now, dont intend on taking any more apart. in the future when moneys more available i would like to start with a short engine with new bearings etc, but this engine should keep it going for a few years hopefully.

Ralph

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Posted 29/5/2012 9:02 PM (#664183 - in reply to #407590)
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as my front tyres where fooked i fitted new tyres on the 2 remaining new wheels an fitted them to the rear, an fitted the rears to the front.

got more skimmed off my heads which i now have back so can start building engine soon, just waiting on my titanium head studs/nuts an rocker shaft bolts.

Ralph

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Posted 5/6/2012 5:06 PM (#665275 - in reply to #407590)
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i gotta say this is on hell of a sleeper is it rear wheel drive or 4 wheel drive mate

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Posted 5/6/2012 5:07 PM (#665276 - in reply to #407590)
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i gotta say this is on hell of a sleeper is it rear wheel drive or 4 wheel drive mate

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Posted 7/6/2012 9:18 AM (#665498 - in reply to #407590)
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RWD, take a look in the earlier pages, shes most of the build.

failed its mot yesterday, only thing with real substance is the rear lower arm bush, then rack gater and cv joint boots need new clips.

Ralph

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Posted 7/6/2012 10:58 AM (#665506 - in reply to #665498)
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ralphh85 - 7/6/2012 9:18 AM

failed its mot yesterday, only thing with real substance is the rear lower arm bush, then rack gater and cv joint boots need new clips.

Is that all? I'd gladly take that as a fail sheet after a crazy project like that!

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Posted 7/6/2012 11:06 AM (#665507 - in reply to #407590)
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yeah, it actually passed last year, first year had a few little bits wrong, but a hole load of the car is new, bearings/joints etc.

hopped it would pass but maybe that was optimistic, however ordered the bits hopefully fit them tonight and its booked in for 5 tomorrow so will see!

Ralph

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Posted 7/6/2012 1:01 PM (#665513 - in reply to #407590)
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Cool enough! What's the plan then... go looking for Saxos Frogs and Fiestas etc to embarrass the crap out of?!!
Not tempted with a solenoid activated open header to make the ground shake??

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Posted 7/6/2012 1:07 PM (#665517 - in reply to #407590)
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PMSL!!
Not sure which Renault hater made it change the name... but i like that!! :D
(I'd like it even more if it posted first time... instead of waiting 'til i tried again and then posting 3 times!?!)

Edited by Marv_666 7/6/2012 1:13 PM

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Posted 7/6/2012 10:41 PM (#665592 - in reply to #407590)
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got another shipment in today, Titanium Head studs/nuts and rocker shaft bolts,

Just need a cam an bits now so i can get further with building the engine,

Hopefully fixed the mot failiors today to.

Ralph

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Posted 8/6/2012 5:51 PM (#665705 - in reply to #407590)
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fooking passed

he had to give me a new proper sized cable tie to clip the cv boot back on with int he retest but that was it, my weedy electrical ones wernt up tot he job lol. retest was only a tenner.

Ralph

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Posted 8/6/2012 6:08 PM (#665707 - in reply to #407590)
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Bonus! Can't moan at that!
Nice one!!

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Posted 20/6/2012 8:01 PM (#667384 - in reply to #407590)
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Posted 20/6/2012 8:05 PM (#667385 - in reply to #667384)
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ralphh85 - 20/6/2012 8:01 PM

Well before i do anything with my titanium brake pipe i thought i better test it,

normal brake pipe is tested to 8000psi, we got this up to 10,000 psi/700 bar, pretty good considering the little brass fitting was only rated to 200 bar, however it looked like it was about to go as there was a crack round the olive.

Ralph

Sounds like you've been living dangerously ralph!

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Posted 20/6/2012 8:08 PM (#667387 - in reply to #667385)
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redgrave66 - 20/6/2012 8:05 PM

Sounds like you've been living dangerously ralph!

it was tested on a proper test rig

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Posted 20/6/2012 8:05 PM (#667386 - in reply to #407590)
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Well before i do anything with my titanium brake pipe i thought i better test it,

normal brake pipe is tested to 8000psi, we got this up to 10,000 psi/700 bar, pretty good considering the little brass fitting was only rated to 200 bar, however it looked like it was about to go as there was a crack round the olive.

so this confirms my suspicions that brake pipe would never just blow up and the amount it holds is down tot he happy chappy who flares the ends as they are the only bit which could potentially leak.

Ralph

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Posted 20/6/2012 9:58 PM (#667413 - in reply to #407590)
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thorough!

have you had the pipe made or bought? if made, how?

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Posted 20/6/2012 10:32 PM (#667414 - in reply to #407590)
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i bought a load from a titanium tube company, if you want some let me know

Ralph

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Posted 24/6/2012 9:53 PM (#667960 - in reply to #407590)
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found a puddle in the passenger footwell today, its either the screen seal or sunroof, either way the seal was cracked so i fitted one of my seals, went in lovely.

Ralph

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Posted 25/6/2012 10:14 PM (#668066 - in reply to #407590)
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did it rain yet so you can tell us if it fixed the leak?

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Posted 26/6/2012 7:35 AM (#668092 - in reply to #407590)
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Why is it not clean...

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Posted 26/6/2012 8:40 AM (#668095 - in reply to #407590)
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Mr B1ng... you're obsessed with clean!!
Are you a valeter touting for business or something?!! lol
This doesn't need to be clean, it's a V8, it's torquey and rumbley... that's good enough! It's the law!?!

ralphh85

Posted 26/6/2012 8:55 AM (#668096 - in reply to #407590)
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erm i did kinda drive down a muddy lane the other week and kinda gave it some grief lol.... was fun tho.

Ralph

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Posted 26/6/2012 10:02 AM (#668100 - in reply to #668096)
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ralphh85 - 26/6/2012 8:55 AM

erm i did kinda drive down a muddy lane the other week and kinda gave it some grief lol.... was fun tho.

Ralph

Would love to see an on board video of this beast! I bet its awesome having a v8 right behind you

ralphh85

Posted 26/6/2012 10:18 AM (#668104 - in reply to #407590)
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few on youtube, on a lose surface its alot of fun, an theres lots of that in cornwall!

Ralph

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Posted 6/7/2012 12:54 AM (#669094 - in reply to #407590)
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This project has been ongoing for over 4 years. I hope it's more sustainable and comes in more under budget than the olympics has done in the same time scale! Most of us have had kids and got married since you started stripping that old 2.0L down.

Loving your work Ralph. I haven't been on here for a long while but I sometimes pop back on from time to time just to see how you're getting on. Keep up the good work pal.

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Thanks

yeah, glad i aint bothered getting married or having kids, not sure the mrs would agree lol.

i have got a few updates for this but not had a chance to get pics up, been to busy with other stuff lately, touch wood looking at a few industrial units later so may have more room soon!

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I been slack on this again, but anyway just got an order in today, i saw the heads had steel screw in core plugs, they had to go! alloy ones installed...

also my titanium spring caps, just waiting for my titanium springs to come now

they messed up an sent unc head nuts last time, so they replaced them with unf so they fit the right end of the stud now lol.

need a cam before i can go much further, but theres a world shortage of blanks, spoke to kent and they confirmed but said they should have some near the end of the month and said i could get one direct from them as i have been waiting!

valve springs which should be in a week or 2 will mean i can assemble heads, just need gaskets so i can fit the head with the new nuts, then waiting on cam.

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Posted 12/7/2012 8:03 PM (#669680 - in reply to #407590)
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and got the 2 alternator bracket bits anodized black,

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Posted 12/7/2012 8:52 PM (#669687 - in reply to #407590)
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brave man making valve spring caps

does the car still have an engine in so you are able to drive it this summer?

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Posted 12/7/2012 9:34 PM (#669689 - in reply to #407590)
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i donno spring caps/springs are about the only normal things people make from titanium!

yeah cars still running round with the 3.5 in it, wont take it off the road till this engines pretty much ready,

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Posted 12/7/2012 10:16 PM (#669692 - in reply to #407590)
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ah ok. hopefully will be ok then

I managed to crack on of my valve spring caps on my blue a-series this year. cracked clean through on one side

good to hear, do you use the car much then?

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Posted 12/7/2012 10:23 PM (#669695 - in reply to #407590)
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every day to work (during the week), no point in spending all that time making it else

not a huge mileage in all, done about 16 k miles since i built it.

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ok, kinda crashed my car on thursday, lucky i dont think theres any to bad damage, i think it will need 4 new tyres, both front wings are buggered and its got a bit of a dent on the little strip bellow the door. ow and rear bumper fell off.

since front wings are fooked on friday i bought everything i need to make glass fibre ones, i made a mould and released it off the wing today, came off well, will tide it up tomorrow then should be finished an ready to make a main wing panel.

hopefully will have it back to full working order soonish!

few pics

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and if this all works i will add fibre glass a series wings to my product list

anyone interested in a set? i plan on making them as the standards, so perfect for road use.

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Posted 23/7/2012 1:30 AM (#670463 - in reply to #670453)
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ralphh85 - 22/7/2012 10:30 PM

and if this all works i will add fibre glass a series wings to my product list

anyone interested in a set? i plan on making them as the standards, so perfect for road use.

Ralph

I would buy a pair

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Posted 22/7/2012 10:43 PM (#670457 - in reply to #407590)
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Ohh no! Atleast its all repairable! Good luck with the wings, you'll have to let me know how you get on

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Posted 23/7/2012 2:37 PM (#670475 - in reply to #407590)
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Bit of a bugger Ralph. You got access to a vacuum pump? If so would be nice to try and infuse the GRP panels under vacuum, leads to a lighter, stronger part. Would need to reinforce your mould a bit though.

Nice looking mould, what release agent did you use?

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Posted 23/7/2012 3:02 PM (#670478 - in reply to #407590)
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not really, we have one here at work but i dont really want to get in to that yet, carbon fibre/epoxy/vac bagging im sure would do a way better job but polyester/CSM will hopefully get a wing skin if not a hole wing dont this week! should half there weight to 1.5kg hopefully.

another problem i have is these basic materials i can buy off the shelf at a local place pretty cheap, buying small ish amounts of better materials i think will prove harder.

i cant remember what the wax was, i asked the difference between the 2 mirror glaze ones and he said the cheaper one was far better than either, so i bought that, it was a bastard to get out but that was purely around the edge, the surfaces came off perfectly.

Ralph

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Posted 23/7/2012 5:56 PM (#670491 - in reply to #407590)
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What sort of price do you estimate for a pair of wings Ralph?

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Posted 24/7/2012 10:20 PM (#670571 - in reply to #407590)
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very hard to say, will let you know when i finish an have a better idea of cost and labour time to me, wont be very expensive tho.

done some more mould stuff today, but also got these

Titanium valve springs! will start assembling heads soon now, then when i have gaskets i can fit them.

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Posted 25/7/2012 2:40 PM (#670601 - in reply to #407590)
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how did you work out spring rates for the titanium springs? are they they same rate as the orig springs?

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Posted 25/7/2012 2:43 PM (#670602 - in reply to #407590)
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yep same as standard which is 220 pound/inch i think, i decided to keep it standard, but since my valve train will be lighter should work better, and im not revving to silly revs anyway.

mine are one less coil and 4.5mm dia wire instead of 4.2. will have to run them to find out exactly how well they work but should be good.

Ralph

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Posted 25/7/2012 2:55 PM (#670605 - in reply to #670602)
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ralphh85 - 25/7/2012 3:43 PM

yep same as standard which is 220 pound/inch i think, i decided to keep it standard, but since my valve train will be lighter should work better, and im not revving to silly revs anyway.

mine are one less coil and 4.5mm dia wire instead of 4.2. will have to run them to find out exactly how well they work but should be good.

Ralph

right. so with a coil less and the thicker wires it should probably work out to about the same max depression.
should work out to a more revy engine if you do all the valve train and stuff like that in titanium.

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Posted 25/7/2012 3:49 PM (#670612 - in reply to #407590)
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think the only other valve train mod will probably be tubular CR MO push rods, reducing weight rather than just fitting more powerful springs will make it more efficient,

Ralph

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Posted 25/7/2012 5:30 PM (#670620 - in reply to #407590)
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would it not be worth selling ti valve gear for a series? they seem to go mad for things like that... or do you only make things that you need rather to make profit?

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glyn-ellis - 25/7/2012 5:30 PM

would it not be worth selling ti valve gear for a series? they seem to go mad for things like that... or do you only make things that you need rather to make profit?

make loads to sell, a series would be tad more complicated as the valves have them 3 little rings, might consider it tho.

valve springs, i will see how these perform, i try an steer clear of risky items.

Ralph

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Posted 28/7/2012 12:41 AM (#670807 - in reply to #407590)
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pulled my first wing out of the mould today, looked really good, needs a few bits repairing but overall good, i missed a few bits with the gelcoat which is the parts which are not white, also started making the mould for the 2nd part.

Ralph

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Posted 28/7/2012 8:48 PM (#670852 - in reply to #407590)
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Not bad sir, not bad at all

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Posted 28/7/2012 8:52 PM (#670853 - in reply to #407590)
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F*ck me Ralph, anything you can't make?!

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Posted 30/7/2012 1:06 PM (#670973 - in reply to #670853)
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scarfey - 28/7/2012 8:52 PM

F*ck me Ralph, anything you can't make?!

well what can i say

getting there on the wing, also goign to buy some valve seals an head gaskets today hopefully so i can start putting the engine back together.

Ralph

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Posted 7/8/2012 10:08 PM (#672048 - in reply to #407590)
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I got head gaskets and valve stem seals so ready to put heads together and on to the engine, just not had time.

grp wing is now almost done!, it fits spot on, didnt bolt the bottom on in the pic as its raining!

half the weight of standard wing so 1.5kg loss, alot when you see some fo the small mods i have been doing to lose weight!

Ralph

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Posted 7/8/2012 10:10 PM (#672049 - in reply to #672048)
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bringing yourself and this thing for metropower to see for the first time in the flesh?!

you have already told me 99% but its not enough ralph! we want the v8! we want the v8!

lol

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Posted 7/8/2012 10:14 PM (#672050 - in reply to #407590)
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kinda depends if its working or not as its currently got 3 flats! however, i will come anyway an bring the mg metro if this isnt working.

would much rather bring the v8 so will try tho.

Ralph

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Posted 17/8/2012 7:57 PM (#673398 - in reply to #407590)
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a little battle weary but shes fixed

oil light is staying on bellow about 2k but think that will solve itself, might stoop to an oil change when im back from holiday.

just need to get more fiberglass panels made so i can get the rest of the body work sorted and get on with engine building again!

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Posted 17/8/2012 8:34 PM (#673408 - in reply to #407590)
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Beautiful! But less of these crappy excuses of why it cant come to the meet on the 8th

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Posted 17/8/2012 8:44 PM (#673411 - in reply to #407590)
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it should be coming as long as it stays working

dont really wanna drive the mg metro all the way cause its slow an more tired than the v8!

Ralph

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ralphh85 - 17/8/2012 8:44 PM

it should be coming as long as it stays working

dont really wanna drive the mg metro all the way cause its slow an more tired than the v8!

Ralph

lmao, I'm driving an A-series automatic on a 3 and half hour journey down, how do you think I feel

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Posted 17/8/2012 11:53 PM (#673454 - in reply to #407590)
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rather have your drive than mine lol, i have to pick between the noisy or the slow, trying not to put to many more miles on the mg so want to bring the v8.

Ralph

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Posted 18/9/2012 8:46 PM (#676652 - in reply to #407590)
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finally found some stem seals which are spot on, fitted one valve/spring/retainer, looks bang on!

hopefully if i get time i will assemble this one and other head tomorrow.

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and 8 of them fitted

other head will be next.

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Posted 19/9/2012 11:47 PM (#676806 - in reply to #676776)
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Those stem seals look better lol

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Posted 19/9/2012 11:33 PM (#676805 - in reply to #407590)
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Starting to come together nicely ralph!

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Yeah these ones where perfect, pressed on a treat def wont come off!

really want to get the other head done and get them fitted to the block, should motivate me to get on with the rest

Ralph

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One head on! not torqued up yet, will start work on the other tomorrow hopefully.

with the titanium rocker shaft bolts its gonna be pretty well titaniumed up

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Pull ya socks up and crack on lol, good work so far tho

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Pull ya socks up and crack on lol, good work so far tho

Crap phone.....

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Loving the titanium valve gear. What you need now is some carbon pushrods.

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coming on realy well mate looks good cant wait to see this again

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Posted 23/9/2012 10:35 PM (#677164 - in reply to #676913)
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minimunky - 20/9/2012 9:05 PM

Pull ya socks up and crack on lol, good work so far tho

Crap phone.....

Done

MG mad - 21/9/2012 7:45 AM

Loving the titanium valve gear. What you need now is some carbon pushrods.

Yeah going to make carbon rods with titanium ends hopefully,

rover_mad - 21/9/2012 10:54 AM

coming on realy well mate looks good cant wait to see this again

yeah hopefully with new engine and some more glass fibre body panels!

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Posted 27/9/2012 7:57 PM (#677609 - in reply to #407590)
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Kinda Running out of things to do at the min, buying a cam/follwers when i get paid,

anyway decided it wouldnt be right to put it back together with steel core plugs, so got these lot coming in ali. main core plugs, small head ones, and small screw in ones.

still mulling over weather i should try an make carbon fibre push rods, they have mixed reviews on the net, but should be fairly cheap to make so probly should.... but then i dont want my engine falling appart.

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Posted 27/9/2012 8:59 PM (#677612 - in reply to #407590)
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I saw a tv program (british program) yesterday where they talked about metallurgy and they explained the alloy invented by some guy (think he was british) which was called super alloy which is the stuff used in airplanes etc. perhaps you can turn some pushrods out of some sort of super hard aluminium? (then you are welcome to make some super light ones for in alloy for my a-series afterwards

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Posted 27/9/2012 9:34 PM (#677617 - in reply to #677612)
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DotMatrix - 27/9/2012 8:59 PM

I saw a tv program (british program) yesterday where they talked about metallurgy and they explained the alloy invented by some guy (think he was british) which was called super alloy which is the stuff used in airplanes etc. perhaps you can turn some pushrods out of some sort of super hard aluminium? (then you are welcome to make some super light ones for in alloy for my a-series afterwards

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what channel was it on? will look in to it, could have been on about 6082 (Ali/copper alloy) aka duralimin,

carbon fibre i think is by far the best material as it wount flex and is way more stiff than any of the metals, but the let down is it can snap an fill your engine with carbon fibres!

if it works i could make up carbon fibre ones easy enough but its at a risk!!

Ralph

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Posted 27/9/2012 10:56 PM (#677631 - in reply to #677617)
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it was on a danish tv channel. but it was really interesting, one of the things they talked about was explained who invented what different sort of alloys for different purposes and how the invented them.
yeah. exactly, duralimin sounds about right

I can understand why carbon fibre would be the best material in theory, but I know from my race engine when having the push-rods out that in that engine they do touch the walls of the head, so wouldn't think carbon would last that long in there. and how about valve float, can they handle that?
if 1/3 or 1/2 of the weight could be lost while still retaining the same rigidity as the standard items, that would be what I would buy. but then again, I have never tried carbon rods.

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Posted 28/9/2012 8:57 AM (#677664 - in reply to #407590)
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yeah im not sure why its called duralimin, just known as 6082 here, or H30 if its in bar form, its just a copper based alloy, its a shed load harder than pur ali and a fair bit harder than other alloys.

lucky on the V8 theres not a hole load for the rods to rub against, theres just little rings in the head which can easy be drilled out, im not sure why they ever rub, you would think there would be plenty of room enless its like that for a reason??

Ralph

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Posted 28/9/2012 9:10 PM (#677732 - in reply to #677664)
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yeah im not sure why its called duralimin, just known as 6082 here, or H30 if its in bar form, its just a copper based alloy, its a shed load harder than pur ali and a fair bit harder than other alloys.

lucky on the V8 theres not a hole load for the rods to rub against, theres just little rings in the head which can easy be drilled out, im not sure why they ever rub, you would think there would be plenty of room enless its like that for a reason??

Ralph

It still used to be called duralamin here back in the 60's and 70's, mainly used for Mini and mk1 escort sumpgaurds,
usually advertised in CCC mag,

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Posted 28/9/2012 9:59 PM (#677738 - in reply to #677732)
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Dave rcr - 28/9/2012 10:10 PM

It still used to be called duralamin here back in the 60's and 70's, mainly used for Mini and mk1 escort sumpgaurds,
usually advertised in CCC mag,

sorry for off topic posting in your thread ralph

it could be fun to buy a stick of this h30 and turn it down into pushrods for my a-series. Is such a stick of alu hardened all the way through?

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Posted 28/9/2012 9:58 PM (#677737 - in reply to #407590)
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i dont remember the 60's or 70's lol, guess it was just what it was called maybe when it was invented, its a great grade either way, just not so good for folding!

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Posted 28/9/2012 10:20 PM (#677743 - in reply to #407590)
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no worries lol, yes its a grade of material rather than a hardening process so will be constant through the material, however it would be heat treated to, so as long as you dont get it to hot/weld it then it will hold its strength,

it wont be as strong as steel for its size so would either need to get bigger or best use a tube, you can buy 6082 tube, infact most extrusions are either 6082 or 5083,

sorry for boring anyone lol.

Ralph

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Posted 28/9/2012 10:47 PM (#677748 - in reply to #677743)
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ralphh85 - 28/9/2012 11:20 PM

no worries lol, yes its a grade of material rather than a hardening process so will be constant through the material, however it would be heat treated to, so as long as you dont get it to hot/weld it then it will hold its strength,

it wont be as strong as steel for its size so would either need to get bigger or best use a tube, you can buy 6082 tube, infact most extrusions are either 6082 or 5083,

sorry for boring anyone lol.

Ralph

yeah. Tube will be good both for weight and strength. A tube of this stuff with two steel ends inserted with a tight fit and lock-tight should do the trick

i will enquire at the place where you buy 1" square steel tube and sheet metal if they have this also

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Posted 30/9/2012 8:35 PM (#677856 - in reply to #407590)
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got a mold done for the outer skin of the boot lid, came off really well, its even got the authentic rust spot molded in lol, will clean that off tho.

hopefully get the boot done quicker than the wing as i think there will be less mold repairs needed.

Ralph

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When are you getting round to doing a roof skin

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Posted 30/9/2012 8:50 PM (#677860 - in reply to #407590)
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when i make a hole shell lol, would be good but not sure i could fit one without a roll cage,

doors would be great but pretty complicated tho so most probably be further down the line.

edit, doesnt 6r4.com sell them??

Edited by ralphh85 30/9/2012 8:51 PM

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Posted 30/9/2012 9:00 PM (#677861 - in reply to #677860)
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ralphh85 - 30/9/2012 8:50 PM

when i make a hole shell lol, would be good but not sure i could fit one without a roll cage,

doors would be great but pretty complicated tho so most probably be further down the line.

edit, doesnt 6r4.com sell them??

will have a look

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Posted 30/9/2012 9:09 PM (#677862 - in reply to #407590)
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6r4's had ally roof skins

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Posted 4/10/2012 8:50 PM (#678245 - in reply to #407590)
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Pretty sure theres somewhere which sells carbon an glass roofs for them,

pulled the mold off the inner side of the boot today, not as good as the outer one but will do the job perfect, planning on laying up both pieces of the boot on saturday.

Ralph

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Posted 5/10/2012 11:21 AM (#678292 - in reply to #407590)
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id have one of them boots from you mate its all im waiting on tbh

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Posted 7/10/2012 5:49 PM (#678493 - in reply to #407590)
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once i have sussed how long they are going to take i will try an price them up along with wings,

anyway laid up the inner skin today, hopefully do the outer tomorrow,

Ralph

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Posted 8/10/2012 4:02 PM (#678563 - in reply to #407590)
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Has this filled up again?

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Posted 8/10/2012 8:32 PM (#678590 - in reply to #407590)
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only the thread fooking up as usual, will fix itself!

Titanium adjuster to go in the middle of this thingy, just need to get a nut welded on to the middle and a few lock nuts.

Ralph

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Posted 12/10/2012 7:53 PM (#679097 - in reply to #407590)
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Well no pics but have news, ordered a fast road kent cam today, plan is to be non 4x4ish like the original but not to crazy as to make it non everyday useable, should be in on monday.

also got the outer boot skin pulled out, bit of repair needed but hopefully have them ready to be stuck together by the end of the weekend. just need to do the repairs an sort out tapping plates for the fixings.

Ralph

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Posted 12/10/2012 8:41 PM (#679105 - in reply to #407590)
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Posted 15/10/2012 9:14 PM (#679325 - in reply to #679105)
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Roverdose - 12/10/2012 8:41 PM

longest, greatest thread ever?

Drew

il let you be the judge of that

Ralph

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Posted 15/10/2012 8:59 PM (#679323 - in reply to #407590)
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one kent fast road cam, had no luck at all with the performance V8 places, basically they dont cater for the later non dizzy engines enless you want a sports torque one.

the only engine i have got ish deep in to is the A series engine, theres nothing like the knowledge base and easy supply of parts for the v8.... pain int he ass but its all there!

just need followers and timing chain now.

Ralph

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Posted 15/10/2012 9:20 PM (#679326 - in reply to #407590)
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It will be very interesting to see a rolling road print of this when this engine is running

also get it on weights when you are done with the fibreglas parts. Will end up having a nice power to weight ratio

ralphh85

Posted 29/10/2012 9:55 PM (#680655 - in reply to #407590)
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getting there, been very busy an also the lids taken alot of time, i hope it works out ok lol.

once this is sorted i will be on to the engine,

Ralph

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Posted 29/10/2012 11:24 PM (#680665 - in reply to #407590)
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i allways wait to see more progress on this but bloodys hell there gunna be no wait left soon only the engine lol
must be some seriouse fun lol

ralphh85

Posted 30/10/2012 9:03 PM (#680757 - in reply to #407590)
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yeah an heres some more weight lost off the engine

now all 4 types of core plugs will be ali, 4 screw in head ones already done, 4 little head ones and 8 block ones as pictured, an the 2 little screw in ones pictured.

plus they wont bloody rust out!!

Ralph

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Posted 30/10/2012 10:52 PM (#680781 - in reply to #407590)
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set of core plugs, and also some little ali pipe nuts i have made to hold alloy fuel pipe in to an mgf fuel filter, these will remove the need for rubber pipe/jubilee clips an hose tails which my current system uses.

Ralph

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Posted 4/11/2012 6:23 PM (#681183 - in reply to #407590)
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Putting the fiber glass to one side so i can get on with the engine, did a test fit with the fibre glass rocker covers i made ages ago, also titanium valley gasket bolts an cam retainer bolts.

will buy a cam chain kit, piper to a vernier one which i thinks ali, but the only problem is no one knows if it will fit the later 4.6L engine... probly buy it an find out!

once thats sorted i will be able to fit the front cover, design an make the sump, then it will be getting there.

Ralph

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Posted 9/11/2012 11:27 PM (#681752 - in reply to #407590)
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got the 12 core plugs fitted today, will be ordering cam chain kit and a few other bits next week so should have some more interesting stuff!

Ralph

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Posted 14/11/2012 10:17 PM (#682250 - in reply to #407590)
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got some goodies in the post today, heres one of them, this one fits the early type v8, however im going to adapt it to fit my later one with a bit of luck.

its also all steel so hopefully remake the inside bit (to fit) from ali an use titanium bolts of course!

Ralph

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Posted 14/11/2012 10:27 PM (#682252 - in reply to #407590)
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Not tempted to ditch the chain...
and make a twin idler gear drive thingy??

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Posted 15/11/2012 8:51 AM (#682262 - in reply to #407590)
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a what? sounds good but be to much work atm, on my next engine maybe!

Ralph

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Posted 15/11/2012 8:59 AM (#682265 - in reply to #682262)
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This kind of thing:-

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Posted 15/11/2012 9:55 AM (#682274 - in reply to #407590)
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I recon it would be a better setup, certainly would have a longer service life than chain/belt! probably out last an engine, but to much work for now, not sure if theres any downsides?

Ralph

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Posted 15/11/2012 10:07 AM (#682276 - in reply to #682274)
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Well I put "timing gear drive" into Google to find a pic...
there was a page with a heading about the downsides!?
Not read it myself...
I'm just aware of the downsides to walloping up to 800bhp through a chain!!

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Posted 15/11/2012 11:57 AM (#682291 - in reply to #407590)
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start of the new inside bit.... found a nice bit of 6082 T651 so should be pretty strong.

Ralph

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Posted 15/11/2012 12:00 PM (#682292 - in reply to #407590)
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loooks good ralph!

ralphh85

Posted 16/11/2012 11:57 PM (#682456 - in reply to #407590)
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Got my last little core plugs in properly, also fitted a new wiper motor, had problem with the intermittent with the other but gonna light weight this new one at some point, also wired in a new heater fan resister,

the wiper motors, theres no thread on them, you have to reem a bolt in to make the thread... god they where tight lol.

Ralph

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Posted 17/11/2012 1:39 AM (#682457 - in reply to #407590)
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so thats why you want the mechanism is it?

ralphh85

Posted 18/11/2012 1:37 PM (#682536 - in reply to #407590)
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yarp, think i need a few spares off one,

got loads of titanium nuts an bolts, which means my alternater adjuster is now complete, just need to get the center nut welded on.

Ralph

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Posted 2/12/2012 9:26 PM (#683766 - in reply to #407590)
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Hopefully this will work, be a bit catastrophic if it doesnt lol.

one alloy adaptor, donno why they dont cater for the injection engines....

Ralph

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Posted 3/12/2012 4:25 PM (#683818 - in reply to #407590)
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i cant see the last reply for some reason.

ralphh85

Posted 3/12/2012 5:12 PM (#683826 - in reply to #407590)
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threads broken again, this post may fix it...

ralphh85

Posted 21/12/2012 6:24 PM (#685228 - in reply to #407590)
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Yes i know i been slacking on this lately, however i did just pass my bike test today

been flat out training last weekend....

got my titanium bolts for the bottom end, 10 1/2 unc bolts and 10 M10 cross bolts, also goign to fit them to the hubs to hold the bottom ball joint in and the steering arms on,

Ralph

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Posted 22/12/2012 2:23 PM (#685243 - in reply to #407590)
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threads broke again...

James160vvc

Posted 22/12/2012 2:27 PM (#685244 - in reply to #407590)
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working for me

ralphh85

Posted 23/12/2012 5:51 PM (#685292 - in reply to #407590)
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steering arm and lower ball bolts done! well one corner,

these will before sale to,

Ralph

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Posted 28/12/2012 6:57 PM (#685480 - in reply to #407590)
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remembered my coilovers have half in bolts, so fitted 4 of them today,just need to get some nuts an washers done!

also fitted the rest of the bottom end bolts, an got the cam retainer moded for counter sunk bolts and fitted that, when i get a 3/16ths allen key tomorrow i can fit the timing chain/front cover fitted, which will be a massive step forward, hopefully do it tomorrow,

Ralph

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Posted 29/12/2012 1:34 PM (#685515 - in reply to #407590)
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I know you've been told this before, but you're definitely a mad man!

ralphh85

Posted 6/1/2013 9:07 PM (#686077 - in reply to #407590)
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Thanks, yea its fun making people think im mad

anyway hit another problem with the cam sprocket, made an error an its 4mm out, so using it to my advantage and making a kind of spacer to space it out, i have also made this from steel as i didnt realize but its a bearing surface for any thrust load on the cam,

I have got the last bearing bolt in, and also removed the oil pick up, the pick up had a steel spacer spacing it off the engine which was horrifically heavy, think i will make it from plastic as it doesnt really do anything, also have the titanium bolt rather than the steel stud/nut.

removed the crank sensor, will have to mod it to fit the dia of the PG1 fly wheel.

anyone know the diameter of the pick up ring on a PG1???

Ralph

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Posted 13/1/2013 11:53 AM (#686568 - in reply to #407590)
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After screwing up ont he alignment and also not realizing the cam gear takes the thrust load of the cam, i got a steel part made up which goes inside the cam cog,

Hopefully i can fit this later today which will be a big step forward!!

Ralph

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Posted 13/1/2013 8:03 PM (#686652 - in reply to #407590)
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It worked! This is good news, to get the front cover on i just need to make up a wood ruff key, and machine a tiny bit off the cover to allow it to clear the chain, hopefully get the gaskets an crank seal needed tomoz,

Ralph

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Posted 14/1/2013 9:39 PM (#686771 - in reply to #407590)
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Few pics, oil cooler take off blanks,

Front cover with titanium oil pump bolts, and you can also see at the top i had to machine it to make clearance for the thicker chain,

and the cover on, just need to get it all sorted and sus out what im doing with water pipes, i think i will either weld ali pipes direct to the cover or again make something which can bolt on and take silicone hoses.

Ralph

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Posted 23/1/2013 8:57 PM (#687751 - in reply to #407590)
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Kinda been side tracked as bought a triumph speed triple, but i have been working on the front cover a bit more,

i am going to get these pipes welded in somehow like in the pic, and also cut off all the rest of the part which is no longer needed for the old water pump,

Ralph

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Posted 28/1/2013 8:21 PM (#688103 - in reply to #407590)
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Got them welded in, and alot of the excess carved off, just need to clean it up, get the end pipe flared are welded on and presure test it,

will clean it all up so hopefully it looks like its supposed to be like this,

Ralph

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Posted 4/2/2013 9:35 PM (#688612 - in reply to #407590)
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got this fulley welded today, and put it on as a test fit with the alternator, all fits ok, the pipe was just fitted for reference, in reality it will need a longer pipe before the bend so plenty of clearance with the alternator pulley,

need to make up some little washers for the cam cog bolts and presure test the front cover welds, then its ready to be fitted properly.

Ralph

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Posted 7/3/2013 1:07 PM (#691083 - in reply to #407590)
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Sorry if I missed this but what are you doing for brakes?

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Posted 7/3/2013 2:16 PM (#691103 - in reply to #407590)
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fucking great big dustbin lids! lol

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Posted 7/3/2013 2:19 PM (#691104 - in reply to #407590)
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Ralph, hope your coming to PoL? I'd like to see this beast you have built

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Posted 8/3/2013 11:57 AM (#691234 - in reply to #407590)
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brakes - take a look earlier int he thread, basically gti brakes (dustbin lids obviously lol) front and rear with a bias bar master cylinder,

POL, i will be there... but can garentee this will be, i could end up in the mg, just depends which cars being worked on at the time!

Ralph

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Posted 24/4/2013 10:18 PM (#695085 - in reply to #407590)
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im back on it!

hopefully start getting the engine/subframe out shortly,

plan it, build a tubular subframe and fit the new engine, stand by for some engineering

Ralph

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Posted 25/4/2013 7:54 AM (#695097 - in reply to #407590)
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Posted 25/4/2013 8:26 AM (#695099 - in reply to #407590)
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The real reason I didn't go to PoL was because this wasn't there

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Posted 25/4/2013 10:32 AM (#695103 - in reply to #407590)
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glad you like!

it will be at POL next year and possibly south metro camp! (depending if i pull my thumb out),

Ralph

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Posted 25/4/2013 1:08 PM (#695116 - in reply to #695103)
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ralphh85 - 25/4/2013 10:32 AM

glad you like!

it will be at POL next year and possibly south metro camp! (depending if i pull my thumb out),

Ralph

pull both your thumbs and all your fingers and get it to this years south metro camp

I want you to tell the staff of a pub that its a dive again

ralphh85

Posted 1/5/2013 10:31 PM (#695507 - in reply to #407590)
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I will do that which ever car i bring miller lol,

well this looks familiar from my earlier pages! engine an subframe are pretty much ready to be rolled out tomorrow,

Ralph

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Posted 1/5/2013 11:20 PM (#695511 - in reply to #407590)
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You need to make a part 2!
Your latest post is missing again

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Posted 4/5/2013 12:12 PM (#695658 - in reply to #407590)
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this was thursday, got the engine out, hopefully get some bits off it an start planning subframe today,

Ralph

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Posted 13/5/2013 8:26 PM (#696317 - in reply to #407590)
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been drawing new subframe and stripped down other one, trying to get the simplest design,

Ralph

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Posted 20/6/2013 2:06 PM (#698743 - in reply to #407590)
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this is very out of date, moved house and got no internet at home yet, but should have any day,

pic was week or 2 ago, now got most of the subframe made up, hopefully have it fully tacked tonight, will stick some more pics up then,

Ralph

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Posted 20/6/2013 6:28 PM (#698778 - in reply to #407590)
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that new subframe should weight a fair bit less than the stock one

did you do any calculations before making this new one or just educated guesses?

ralphh85

Posted 21/6/2013 9:17 AM (#698825 - in reply to #698778)
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DotMatrix - 20/6/2013 6:28 PM

that new subframe should weight a fair bit less than the stock one

did you do any calculations before making this new one or just educated guesses?

its goign to be a shite load lighter, im not bothering with any joining brackets so its just bolting straight to the car, opposed to how i did it before will miss alot of unneeded stuff out,

calculations, i will let you take a guess on that one lol.

Ralph

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Posted 21/6/2013 7:40 PM (#698859 - in reply to #407590)
Subject: RE: The V8 Metro

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still love this car

ralphh85

Posted 24/6/2013 2:11 PM (#699004 - in reply to #407590)
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thank you

crappy phone pic again but heres the main bit of the subframe, just missing a few gusset tubes, goign to get it properly tacked up tonight so its ready for a proper test fit,

still only about 7 kg! to put it in to perspective it weighs about as much as the brackets which used to hold the subframe in lol.

Ralph

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ralphh85

Posted 24/6/2013 10:40 PM (#699023 - in reply to #407590)
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tacked up properly, bolted to car, tomorrow will get it back out an hopefully get the engine in to it to see how it all clears,

Ralph

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ralphh85

Posted 26/6/2013 9:29 PM (#699144 - in reply to #407590)
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few suspention arm mounts welded on, hopefully do a test fit with the engine morrow, and maybe get rest of the brackets welded on,

Ralph

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ralphh85

Posted 26/8/2013 9:58 PM (#702484 - in reply to #407590)
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little progress, got arms tacked up, bottom one just needs outer joint finishing,

hopefully have a hub on the car this week to check alignment,

Ralph

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AzzGTa

Posted 27/8/2013 1:15 AM (#702488 - in reply to #407590)
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Why can i never view your pics while im on my phone

ralphh85

Posted 28/8/2013 9:59 PM (#702590 - in reply to #407590)
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I have no idea

but here is another pic, titanium bolts and spacers, just need to get the other arm done, failed to get out there today,

Ralph

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Posted 28/8/2013 10:18 PM (#702594 - in reply to #407590)
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going to have the beast ready for tro fest mate?

ralphh85

Posted 29/8/2013 12:31 PM (#702614 - in reply to #407590)
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would love to say yes but realistically no lol, hopefully be on its wheels but have a hole load of engine work to do before then,

it made it to last years an should make it to next!

Ralph

ralphh85

Posted 1/9/2013 9:19 PM (#702794 - in reply to #407590)
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managed to get arms fitted an test fit hub/wheel etc,

doing some changes to the bottom arm, hopefully have it sorted this week, then will be one step closer,

Ralph

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GTaddz

Posted 1/9/2013 10:15 PM (#702805 - in reply to #702794)
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that's insane ralph! Don't think you need any steering components, with the front end that light it'l never be on the ground

gonna be one firm ride with all round rose joints. Credit to your engineering skills sir.

ralphh85

Posted 11/9/2013 2:42 PM (#703295 - in reply to #407590)
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Firm ride is what we like lol, have had some progress on this but not taken any pics lately,

got a wheel on and all seems ok so the car to wheel bits alright,

now go the subframe out and aligning the engine up in it which so far seems ok, just in the process of making some enigne mounts so i can get it in the subframe and check the engine clears the car alright,

pic was a week or 2 ago,

Ralph

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ralphh85

Posted 30/11/2013 4:52 PM (#706933 - in reply to #407590)
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Not added this this in ages but i have been on it intermittently, getting there with the engine mounts, hopefully have it mounted this side of chrimbo, now got a better internet connection in the unit so hopefully add more pics now!

Ralph

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ajb

Posted 12/3/2014 12:07 AM (#710596 - in reply to #407590)
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I'm on page 48 just read through this very impressed. Have there been no updates recently? Please don't say you've sold it.

ralphh85

Posted 12/3/2014 5:00 PM (#710602 - in reply to #407590)
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Dont worry i havnt sold it! not much to add atm although i have done a few bits to it recently, keep getting bogged down with work.....

Ralph

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Posted 12/3/2014 5:11 PM (#710603 - in reply to #407590)
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Dont worry i havnt sold it! not much to add atm although i have done a few bits to it recently, keep getting bogged down with work.....

Ralph

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Posted 31/5/2014 7:11 PM (#712420 - in reply to #407590)
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So then big lad....
6 years on, where are you up to?

Lots of love, no homo,

Your biggest (literally) fan.

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Posted 31/5/2014 9:42 PM (#712425 - in reply to #407590)
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That's fucking epic!

ralphh85

Posted 2/6/2014 9:49 AM (#712448 - in reply to #407590)
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Ahhh, well theres been some progress but not as much as i hoped, have been building suspension arms for the other side so i can get it on its wheels again,

i will try an get some pics up in a week or 2!

Ralph

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