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stormgreygti
Posted 12/1/2012 11:13 PM (#643498 - in reply to #643460)
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FreddieS - 12/1/2012 7:36 PM

Sorry fella, dont mean to seem harsh, but ive got to comment

this -



worries me.

I can see the patch youve welded into the corner of the rear arch where it joins to the rear boot panel from the inside of the boot. and I can still see the remaining rust, and then youve plated over that from the outside aswell?

Rust is cancer, either cut it out completely and weld FLUSH to the metal, not plate over, or dont bother, as it will be back nastier than before.

If you want the car to last you have to cut out (square) and weld flush (in line) with the metal, its stronger and its a shitload neater, I wouldve done that rear arch in one sheet of metal, may take longer to make the piece your fitting, but takes less time to weld in and less grinding.

I love your dedication, I just dont want to see you do all this then be back to a sieve in a year or two!

The subframe mounts are dead, you will need to cut the outer sill off to attend to that, they are triple layered in that area and it essential that its all healthy.

Doesnt matter if the outer sill looks good, its where the inner sill and gusset is that matters, my old BRG GTa looked immaculate from the outside, but 2 of the 3 layers were literally non existant.



I Cut out the inner arch and plated over the inside and outside because i didn't think just one sheet of metal would be able to be welded in flush with the parts i've just cut out. The part inside the rear of the boot was just ground down and plated over, i couldn't get in there with the grinder to cut the metal out and then i doubt i would've got the right shape afterwards, you're right i should've cut the rust out and will make sure i re do that section properly sometime in the future ( because i'm not getting rid of the car) but i didin't want to go taking the outer arch/ quarter panel off just to get to the inner arch because i don't really have the money for the repairs to be painted and i needed the car. The main problem was access which is why it looks to be a rubbish job in that area.

So for the inner arch would you say i've done that wrong aswell with plating over both sides after the rust was cut out? Surely it can't still rust if i've taken the rust out?
But i will admit the rear section is wrong and will be done properly when i have more money because i'll replace the arches aswell as they're not great in some areas.

Connor.
stormgreygti
Posted 12/1/2012 11:22 PM (#643499 - in reply to #643457)
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Gandi69 - 12/1/2012 7:06 PM

Not seen those pics, nice find! Is the first one what you are aiming for?


They're on the ten-tenths motorsport forum and someone sent me scanned versions via email. The first one is what i'm aiming for but with perhaps fewer decals.
I have the original roversport door mirror decals ( fitted) an original sunvisor strip ( already fitted) an original rear spolier decal which i'm going to get copied as i don't want to use the original if i can help it, i have the original front wing stripes which i am also going to get copied so i don't have to use the originals and i will need to get the bonnet stripes made up which shouldn't be too hard as the wing stipes can be used as a guide for the colour and width.
I will also need the rear quarter panel stripes made aswell which may be a problem because i'm not certain on any dimensions, i only have some pictures to go by.
And the red rectangle in the lower rear quarter with sponsors names on in white will need to be made, but i would probably make a template as a quide if i go and get those made.

Basically i would like the car to look like this:



But with a few more deals and the rally lamp pod i have fitted to mine because on that picture that car doesn't have the door mirror decals.

Connor.



Edited by stormgreygti 12/1/2012 11:24 PM
stormgreygti
Posted 29/1/2012 10:44 PM (#645834 - in reply to #564503)
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Just thought i'd upload a couple of pictures of the lamp pod lights and main beam compared to just main beam.
They're considerably better at lighting than just main beam as you can see, although i think they're much better in real life rather than shown by pictures, other roads seem to show up brighter than others aswell.
The two middle lights are the spots ( i feel they're doing all the lighting to be honest) and the two outside are the fogs which don't shine very far anyway but do contribute to the light output. I'd rather 4 spots but the Lucas 20 20 lights are pretty rare.

Main beam:



Main beam with the 4 lights switched on:



Connor.



Edited by stormgreygti 29/1/2012 10:47 PM
stormgreygti
Posted 24/10/2012 11:31 PM (#680180 - in reply to #564503)
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Not updated this for ages but i haven't really done much and i've realised i have two journals under the same name so if possible it would be good to have those merged into this one. The holes by/next to the rear subframe mounts were welded professionally because i couldn't get into them myself, let alone get the corroded bolts out and also had new subframe mounts fitted at the same time.

Just got some more Roversport decals made up from the 1991 scheme. So should have those fitted soon. Here's a few pictures:

This one goes inside the car on the dash ( as can be seen on youtube video's from the Dunlop Metro Gti cup cars). I've guessed the size from looking at the videos and it looks pretty much the same size. And the style of writing should be perfect because i sent pictures in to the signwriters when i got the decals made.


This is the door square, i have two of these. Measured the sizes myself so shouldn't be too far off the size of the originals. And again the writing is the same because i sent in pictures for them to go by.


Rear quarter decals, i made templates for each side because both sides are not the same due to the rubbing strips being fitted by another owner slightly lower than the other side etc. Again sent in a picture to get the sponsors names correct.


Two Unipart decals, i had really large Unipart decals so got these reduced to the size needed. I had to measure the size myself from looking at pictures of Malcolm Oxborrow's car. Am fairly sure i have them as close to the original size as possible. These go on each side of the front splitter.


Two Delco suspension decals, one for each side of the front bumper as seen on the 1991 cars.


Two Castrol decals, to replace the others i have. Reason being the L's came off the originals and some of the other letters were lifting.


And finally two decals for the front wings. Saying driver and my name. I am yet to pick up the maroon rover squares ( same as on the door mirrors but without the yellow part) which should accompany this writing, as shown on some pictures of Malcolm's car.


Also the decals are a little hard to view in the pictures because they have a backing on the front so i can position them on the car. They are infact Maroon, the same colour as the sunvisor strip and front stripes. Except of course the writing is in white.

Connor.

Edited by stormgreygti 24/10/2012 11:32 PM
Saxokid100
Posted 25/10/2012 1:11 AM (#680188 - in reply to #564503)
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Posted 25/10/2012 10:43 AM (#680222 - in reply to #564503)
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will look god with those stickers
111Sli
Posted 25/10/2012 10:49 AM (#680223 - in reply to #564503)
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Nice work on the decals, were they expensive?
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Posted 25/10/2012 12:36 PM (#680236 - in reply to #564503)
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Should look smart with them on!

Good effort for getting them made up.
stormgreygti
Posted 25/10/2012 8:25 PM (#680300 - in reply to #680188)
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Saxokid100 - 25/10/2012 1:11 AM

You like your rally stickers i see


Thanks for the comments everyone. Yeah i like rally stickers lol because i'm doing a Roversport replica and it's nice to be unique too Well i like any car in rally spec to be honest.
To get the ones pictured made up cost £60 so wasn't too bad.

I've fitted all the decals apart from the door squares and castrol ones. The one on the dash does look a bit too big but i don't really mind ( i did make a paper template to judge the size but when you have a coloured decal it's a bit different to using white paper). Also the rear quarter decals don't fit exactly because the arches aren't the originals and some repair work was done in the past in that area too. And i've had to filler and paint part of the arch so haven't got the best arch shape where it meets the sill if you know what i mean. The decals are the correct shape though but where i shaped the arch could've been flatter because the decal doesn't sit flat where it meets the curvature of the arch. I'll get pictures tomorrow to explain it better.

But overall the ones i've fitted so far look as per the originals apart from the dash one. But i'm sure you wouldn't know unless you had an inside picture of the proper roversport cars to hand.

Connor.

Edited by stormgreygti 25/10/2012 8:26 PM
stormgreygti
Posted 26/10/2012 6:10 PM (#680392 - in reply to #564503)
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Took a couple of pictures today after i finished putting the decals on. The pictures are a little blurred though.
I took a close up of the rear quarter decal, at certain angles it looks like it's peeling off at the bottom corner after the curve but that's because the arch isn't shaped properly in that area so it doesn't sit flat, the passeneger side is better though. Anyway i think the car looks great now. Just need the rear maroon/yellow stripes made up for the rear and a few other decals and it'll look even better.













Connor.

Edited by stormgreygti 26/10/2012 6:28 PM
Marv_666
Posted 26/10/2012 6:23 PM (#680394 - in reply to #564503)
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NIIICE!!!

I like that a lot!

Good work!
stormgreygti
Posted 26/10/2012 10:39 PM (#680413 - in reply to #564503)
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Thanks

Connor.
cerbera
Posted 27/10/2012 8:38 PM (#680460 - in reply to #564503)
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They look really good. Should get the sign writer to offer them out as full car packs, I'm sure a few people will be interested in them.
AdrianSi
Posted 27/10/2012 8:48 PM (#680462 - in reply to #564503)
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That's a really good price for the amount of work required. What file format did you supply them with? I need couple of vinyl stickers making up for some shop plates.
stormgreygti
Posted 27/10/2012 11:27 PM (#680484 - in reply to #680462)
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AdrianSi - 27/10/2012 8:48 PM

That's a really good price for the amount of work required. What file format did you supply them with? I need couple of vinyl stickers making up for some shop plates.


I just went down there with templates i made and the sizes i wanted. Luckily i already had a few Roversport decals and originals. So i got copies made and asked them to reduce the size of decals i already had after i specified the size. I sent in pictures aswell of Malcolm Oxborrow's metro gti so they could get an idea of the font used for a couple of the decals.
£60 was the price for the ones i pictured after i got them made. The sunvisor strip, rear spoiler and front stripes were i think another £60 maybe more.

In regard to another post, i'm not sure if the signwriter has the files saved, because as i said i went in with templates and originals so i would asume they were measured and cut. Maybe not saved. But i do have the sizes of the door squares ( excluding the measurements of the maroon rectangles with rover and dunlop because i asked if they could judge the size from the pictures and they've done a very good job), castrol decals, delco suspension decals, unipart decals, door mirror roversport decals and the full length of the decal which says 'driver' and my name. Because i judged the size myself and did a lot of measuring of my own car and looking at pictures to get them pretty accurate.

Hope this is of some help.
Connor.

Edited by stormgreygti 27/10/2012 11:34 PM
stormgreygti
Posted 28/7/2014 6:55 PM (#713478 - in reply to #564503)
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Haven't updated this for ages,

Don't suppose one of the admin could merge this and my other Thread together could they please?

Most of you know what my car looks like but just to update this a little here it is:

20140209_165953 by stormgreygti, on Flickr

20140209_170050 by stormgreygti, on Flickr

Connor.

stormgreygti
Posted 28/7/2014 7:35 PM (#713479 - in reply to #564503)
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Another update, recently purchased a set of Compomotive MS 5 spoke alloys which are 95.25 PCD.

6x13 with an offset of -24.

20140722_185435 by stormgreygti, on Flickr

20140722_185428 by stormgreygti, on Flickr


Got the back mounting face machined 8mm to reduce the offset to -16, which now fits the front, rear fits perfectly:

20140724_180809 by stormgreygti, on Flickr

20140724_180816 by stormgreygti, on Flickr

Outer lip masked up ready for painting in 2K:

20140728_182423 by stormgreygti, on Flickr

20140728_182443 by stormgreygti, on Flickr

Blox forged aluminium 50mm long M12 x 1.5 wheel nuts (polished aluminium) with a 60 degree taper.

20140728_182804 by stormgreygti, on Flickr


Connor.

Edited by stormgreygti 28/7/2014 9:21 PM
stormgreygti
Posted 29/7/2014 11:03 PM (#713494 - in reply to #564503)
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Primered and painted in 2K, couple of runs but not bad for a first time attempt with a spray gun.

Need to polish the lip, then cut back and polish the paint for a better shine.

20140729_190745 by stormgreygti, on Flickr

20140729_200455 by stormgreygti, on Flickr

20140729_200504 by stormgreygti, on Flickr

Connor.
111Sli
Posted 29/7/2014 11:54 PM (#713495 - in reply to #564503)
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Moving off from the Challenge replica look then, Connor?
stormgreygti
Posted 30/7/2014 1:08 AM (#713496 - in reply to #564503)
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Just fancied a change in wheels really, David.

I've painted them in the closest match i could get compared to the maroon of the stripes.
And they'll have Dunlop Direzza, DZ03G tyres so at least i'm still in keeping with some of the replica scheme (dunlop tyres)

Connor.

Edited by stormgreygti 30/7/2014 1:09 AM
metrobruce
Posted 30/7/2014 9:18 AM (#713497 - in reply to #621222)
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AdrianSi - 31/7/2011 10:19 AM

Full credit for continuing with this one but I'd be a little worried about the patchwork quilt that you creating. Don't just patch the subframe most up... I'm quite sure that you will find that there is buggerall behind there. What condition are the sills in around that area. There have been quite a few threads recently about rear subframe mount structures, and those with pictures of the sill off are quite shocking!


you are right adrian, peeling off the body kit usually fetches the sill with it, I do have some pics that I will post of repairing this area as it is a pain in the back side, the only way to preserve is to remove all the rust and use clean metal or you will be urinating directly into the wind.
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Posted 30/7/2014 9:18 AM (#713498 - in reply to #621222)
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AdrianSi - 31/7/2011 10:19 AM

Full credit for continuing with this one but I'd be a little worried about the patchwork quilt that you creating. Don't just patch the subframe most up... I'm quite sure that you will find that there is buggerall behind there. What condition are the sills in around that area. There have been quite a few threads recently about rear subframe mount structures, and those with pictures of the sill off are quite shocking!


you are right adrian, peeling off the body kit usually fetches the sill with it, I do have some pics that I will post of repairing this area as it is a pain in the back side, the only way to preserve is to remove all the rust and use clean metal or you will be urinating directly into the wind.
metrobruce
Posted 30/7/2014 9:18 AM (#713499 - in reply to #621222)
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AdrianSi - 31/7/2011 10:19 AM

Full credit for continuing with this one but I'd be a little worried about the patchwork quilt that you creating. Don't just patch the subframe most up... I'm quite sure that you will find that there is buggerall behind there. What condition are the sills in around that area. There have been quite a few threads recently about rear subframe mount structures, and those with pictures of the sill off are quite shocking!


you are right adrian, peeling off the body kit usually fetches the sill with it, I do have some pics that I will post of repairing this area as it is a pain in the back side, the only way to preserve is to remove all the rust and use clean metal or you will be urinating directly into the wind.
Marv_666
Posted 30/7/2014 10:30 AM (#713500 - in reply to #564503)
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Out of context that's a hideous colour to paint the wheels for a grey car!!
Should match up quite nicely with all the graphics though...
and far better than matching to the yellow!

Just don't hurry to get them fitted though...
I want my lower offset 6" wheels fitted first!?!
stormgreygti
Posted 30/7/2014 8:58 PM (#713510 - in reply to #713500)
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Marv_666 - 30/7/2014 10:30 AM

Out of context that's a hideous colour to paint the wheels for a grey car!!
Should match up quite nicely with all the graphics though...
and far better than matching to the yellow!

Just don't hurry to get them fitted though...
I want my lower offset 6" wheels fitted first!?!


They actually suit it really well in my opinion but maybe that's because of the decals Porsche GT3rs's have orange/ reddish colour wheels and they're grey.

I can't fit them yet until i've used a 60 degree counter sink for the mounting holes, gone over with lacquer and fitted the tyres which should be here this week.

Connor.

Edited by stormgreygti 30/7/2014 9:01 PM
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