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ralphh85
Posted 25/4/2008 2:51 PM (#407590)
Subject: The V8 Metro
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thought i would start one of these....

might not look much different to what it did the other day but it is as i put new crank shaft seal in, torqued flywheel up, fitted 2.0L turbo clutch, gearbox and starter. also cut of the V8 starter motor bracket bit which was in the way of the drive shaft.

so i now have a fully functional engine and box, just need to more the engine mounts and put on a remote oil filter to give room for the drive shaft to pass the engine.

the other day i fitted a spacer tot he inside crank pulley and removed the outside one to bring the pulleys in a bit and create bit more room.

Ralph



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DAVESEI
Posted 26/4/2008 11:00 AM (#407863 - in reply to #407590)
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cant wait to see this should be a cool car
ralphh85
Posted 26/5/2008 9:27 AM (#416954 - in reply to #407590)
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been quite on here but i been busy working on this still.

using metro subframe as i pressure the suspension setup over MGF. and the metro subframe i got was in good nick and the mgf one was tad bad.

just been making engine mounts out of an old pizza box which i will turn in to metal at work tomoz, just got to do the gearbox side mounting then it will be bolted in.

next up are coilovers (kinda like my front) and get drive shafts in. and fit some R200 calipers i think.


Ralph


edit, it will clearly need a custom stainless exhaust making up as the original manifolds hit the frame and get in the way.

Edited by ralphh85 26/5/2008 9:29 AM




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m4tti3
Posted 26/5/2008 11:55 AM (#416988 - in reply to #407590)
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this is the best project i've ever seen, top marks ralph!! i love it when ppl think outside the box i can't wait to hear it running!
FreddieS
Posted 26/5/2008 12:47 PM (#417000 - in reply to #407590)
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Talon made their own KV6 rear engined tro, looked like a beast

I cant wait to see this badboy fire up! its so promising! and if you go for a tuned 3.9l it'll just fly!
ralphh85
Posted 26/5/2008 3:01 PM (#417039 - in reply to #407590)
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mgf gear linkage would work but i dont entirly liket he idea of a flexy linkage, think its likely to make the gears feel bit Sh*t. tho i have no experience of it. my friend also said this about an MR2 he had, said you could feel that it was remote.

what im more likely to do is just run a linkage back under the engine and in, i would suspect this is how the libra's etc did it.


Ralph
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Posted 26/5/2008 3:09 PM (#417041 - in reply to #407590)
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I have an MGF and an MR2, got to say the F does not feel like a remote setup at all, plenty of feedback, the stick even shudders when you go for reverse with the revs to high and it crunches in (does the reverse brake ever work on a PG1?!)

Been so long since I drove the MR2 I cant remember but to be honest the whole car felt remote, its not a drivers car, the whole handling is very soft and detached.
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Posted 26/5/2008 3:25 PM (#417048 - in reply to #407590)
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ralphh mate you are the nuttiest most out of the box person i have ever come across. you have to get this finished its gonna be the B*****ks
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Posted 26/5/2008 6:04 PM (#417153 - in reply to #407590)
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MGF Linkages are plenty strong enough and woudl make the job very easy. There pretty thick cables, takes some cutting!!!!
ralphh85
Posted 8/6/2008 2:06 PM (#421093 - in reply to #407590)
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well once again been pretty quite but have been makign slow progress, i got one engine moutn done, another there but not fully welded up, and the gearbox end i have made bit which holds the mounst to the box but just need to make the parts which hold them to the frame.

once these are sorted i will be able to get it up on axle stands and make sure it all works.

if it works as a unit then it will defiantly be possible and not much harder than putting a KV6 in the back (but much better!).


Ralph



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m4tti3
Posted 8/6/2008 7:53 PM (#421182 - in reply to #407590)
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certainly coming along!

keep up the good work.....can i be the first to get in line for a ride in it???
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Posted 9/6/2008 1:42 AM (#421201 - in reply to #407590)
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Ralph, that is gonna be one mental metro!


ralphh85
Posted 9/6/2008 3:40 PM (#421402 - in reply to #407590)
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thanks for the compliments, tho i dotn think its that mad, people put V8's in all sorts, tho i havent seen another metro yet, probly been done somewhere tho.

3 mounts sorted 1 to go!

she will be up on stands for last tests next


Ralph

edit, i would still be on the first mount without the waterjet!

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petrol_head
Posted 9/6/2008 3:43 PM (#421404 - in reply to #407590)
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i like it allot keep up the good work, not bad to tell you work with metal for a living!

Edited by petrol_head 9/6/2008 3:43 PM
ralphh85
Posted 16/6/2008 5:03 PM (#423947 - in reply to #407590)
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engine mounts tacked in place, steering arms fixed in place.

got pair of wheels on, and the wheel clears the water pump, there its in roughly ride hight, even ont he bump stops the tyre will clear, and thats with no disk on, and i can always grind the end of the water pump.

and if it all goes tits i will put on an electric water pump.

just need to sort brakes, coilovers, drive shafts, altinator, and maybe few other bits then it will be a complete lump!


Ralph



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Posted 16/6/2008 5:09 PM (#423951 - in reply to #407590)
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farkin awesome
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Posted 16/6/2008 5:17 PM (#423955 - in reply to #407590)
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thats coming on really well
DAVESEI
Posted 18/6/2008 7:55 AM (#424379 - in reply to #407590)
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looking good mate
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Posted 18/6/2008 9:42 AM (#424420 - in reply to #407590)
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A lot of good work going into that, going to be one fun car to drive, and the sound it's going to be making
ralphh85
Posted 19/6/2008 7:07 AM (#424679 - in reply to #407590)
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thanks for the coments chaps!

jeckulz - 18/6/2008 5:34 PM

f**k ME!
That looks ace.
Novel way of mounting a V8, but then I suppose you had little choice.

Good Sh*t


as you say little choice but this seems like a good method all the same, uses up little space and it fits in nice. only let down is the weight distribution, however the engine block only 140mm off center which is alot less than the k series, and with the gearbox on the other end and a battery its gonna be fairly well ballenced.

Ralph


edit, renault transaxle box is used fare bit but its more expencive, harder to find, harder to get parts for and its french and gay! so the PG1 won!

Edited by ralphh85 19/6/2008 7:09 AM
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Posted 19/6/2008 7:28 AM (#424685 - in reply to #424679)
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ralphh85 - 19/6/2008 12:07 PM
edit, renault transaxle box is used fare bit but its more expencive, harder to find, harder to get parts for and its french and gay! so the PG1 won!

Like the reaons for choosing the pg1 box! hey its a jap box though mirrored lol.
Anyway, I hope you prove everyone that the pg1 was the right choice. With the correct oil and steel cage bearings they last.
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Posted 19/6/2008 4:02 PM (#424882 - in reply to #407590)
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really hope u get this all workin m8, carnt wait 2 c the end result!!
FreddieS
Posted 22/6/2008 5:22 AM (#425365 - in reply to #407590)
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jeckulz - 22/6/2008 5:22 AM

Potentialy a stupid question.
Whats the engine out of?
Or have you already said and I cant read?


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Eddbmxdude
Posted 22/6/2008 5:57 AM (#425366 - in reply to #407590)
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How are you gonna fix the subframe/engine assembly into the back of the car mate?
Great to see this coming along!

ralphh85
Posted 29/6/2008 3:54 AM (#427052 - in reply to #425366)
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yes it is a Range rover engine, SD1 would have been better but harder to get, plus iw ill replace it with a rebuilt V8 after it works.

Eddbmxdude - 22/6/2008 11:57 AM

How are you gonna fix the subframe/engine assembly into the back of the car mate?
Great to see this coming along!



no not silly at all, but that shouldnt be hard, i would really like to know how the KV6 metros have been done, my plan is to try an see if i can bolt it to existing mounts, which would keep it more legal from a no sva test, else i will weld on some mounts which accept the std front subframe.

theres a fare bits to bolt it to back there, rear subframe/seatbelt/towing eye mounts.

i wouldnt have thought the engine pushing forward is a huge force in comparison to what a car goes through when cornering/braking especially when being abused like handbrake turns etc, which dont break rear subframes off.


Ralph
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