Posted 25/2/2006 5:22 PM (#113250 - in reply to #113223) Subject: RE: scrubbing
Metro Mad
Posts: 7653 Location: Tamworth, Staffs
yes.
you need to roll the lips on all wheel archs, on the fronts its best to put the wheel arch liner on the inside of the lips and then roll the lips up, this way the liners stay in place keeping the crap out of the door hinges and doesn't get scrubbed from the tyres.
Posted 25/2/2006 5:35 PM (#113265 - in reply to #113260) Subject: RE: scrubbing
Metro Mad
Posts: 7653 Location: Tamworth, Staffs
As long as your rear archs are solid and metal, not full of filler you can do all this yourself if you wanted using a rubber mallet and gently tapping the complete lip up bit by bit all the way round. If you don't feel confident doing this you can get just about any body shop to do it for you. If the rear archs are rusty or filled then its best to get the grinder on these and remove the lips completely and then just seal and paint what you have removed.
Posted 26/2/2006 6:23 AM (#113348 - in reply to #113223) Subject: RE: scrubbing
Expert
Posts: 3783 Location: Studley, Warwickshire
To roll my font arches I used a trolley jack handle. With the car on the ground and the 14s fitted I wedged the handle at about a 45 degree angle along the top edge of the tyre and arch lip and 'rolled' the handle along the top of the tyre, you need to do this a good couple of times to roll the lip up but if you are careful and take your time it will do the job perfectly.
I have done this on my last 3 metros and it cured the rubbing. Make sure if any paint cracks on the lip to touch it up.
Posted 26/2/2006 11:01 AM (#113473 - in reply to #113223) Subject: RE: scrubbing
Expert
Posts: 4703 Location: Birmingham
yeah, but the arch liner is on the underside of the arch lip isnt it? or it is on my car...
so i wouldnt be able to get a jack handle inside the arch cause the arch liner is in the way?
unless i can get the arch liner to sit ontop/inside the arch lip i cant see a way of doing it.
what i might try first is taking the arch liner out, and hacksawing a few mm's off the edge of it and see if i can re-fit it inside the arch, possible?
how hards the front arch liners to get out?
Posted 26/2/2006 11:10 AM (#113482 - in reply to #113473) Subject: RE: scrubbing
Expert
Posts: 3783 Location: Studley, Warwickshire
Arch liners are fairly easy to remove but the plastic screws that hold them on sometimes break which is why I left mine on and used the jack handle to push the liner and lip up both together, it doesn't matter if it's in the way of the lip it's only plastic, it won't prevent you from rolling the lip.
Posted 26/2/2006 2:42 PM (#113591 - in reply to #113223) Subject: RE: scrubbing (added diagram)
Expert
Posts: 4703 Location: Birmingham
FRONT ARCH DIAGRAMS - just to get a few things clear...
the (red) liner is attached to the underside of the arch lip - if you stick a bar in at 45 DEG's like jim said - it should be able to bend back the arch (in black)
what i dont quite understand is how the arch liner stays with the arch - as its not attached by much anyway, just lil plastic screws so i wouldnt want to put to much pressure bending it back
Posted 26/2/2006 2:46 PM (#113598 - in reply to #113223) Subject: RE: scrubbing diagram
Expert
Posts: 4703 Location: Birmingham
see this is what i was thinkin i mite do - take the arch liner out (trim it a bit)
roll the arch whilst the arch liner is out -
put the liner back in - but ontop of the arch lip -
(but jim says the arch liner mite be a b**ch to get back in because of the plastic screws breakin - so ill take jims word for it - and keep thinking! )
Posted 26/2/2006 2:57 PM (#113606 - in reply to #113223) Subject: RE: scrubbing
Expert
Posts: 3783 Location: Studley, Warwickshire
Hi Barber, you've got it there I did exactly what you have illustrated in diagram 1, the screws didnt break... but maybe I was lucky
Diagram 2 looks like the best idea, the only reason I didnt do it that way was because I couldn't be arsed after mangling some of the plastic screws in a previous attempt
Posted 26/2/2006 3:13 PM (#113625 - in reply to #113223) Subject: RE: scrubbing
Northampton's Finest
Posts: 1031 Location: Northampton
Sorry, you get the wrong idea, i have based my diagram on what matt said at the top, sadly - i butchered my arch liners the other day to get rid of scrubbing, i'd of learnt a fair bit from this thread, if it was a week ago... Not sure about heating up etc but curve the arches up like Jim said..
scrubbing
f4e8.jpg?memberid=695&type=profile)
d987.jpg?memberid=147&type=profile)
)
?
ill borrow a trolley jack handle from a mate