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Location: Wiltshire | The Metro Owners Club as well as myself have been contacting various suppliers to find out what can be done about the limited (read almost none) supply of the various sizes of tyres specific to Metro's.
One of these lines of enquiry has led to the following email being received from Vintage Tyres.
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It looks like we might have limited numbers of a 185/55R13 Camac in stock within a month or so.
Initial supplies are limited, so if you know someone who needs them get them to email to add their name to the list now!
sales@vintagetyres.com
Vintage Tyre Supplies Limited
Registered Office:
National Motor Museum,
Beaulieu,
Brockenhurst
Hampshire SO42 7ZN
Registered Number 723112 ""
Now I realise that many do not like Camac's, especially in the wet but, with most "New Tyres" turning up in this size are already several years old, there will come a time where you either change size or rims.
If you want to keep the rims and the tyre size, then as they say "Beggers can't be Choosers" until another make is available (which is unlikely)
If we want to keep this chance of a limited but hopefuly continuous supply of this size, and the possibility of other sizes coming available, those who have cars with this size of tyre please contact Vintage tyres direct via the address above.
The greater number of people who take up there offer the better chance we will have of them sourceing more of this size, and possibly other sizes in the future.
My thanks to the Metro Owners club for there effort's, and long may they continue to keep them up, as it helps all owners not just club members. (as is there aim)
Mal.
Edited by Mg Mal 20/1/2012 8:33 PM
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Location: Cornwall | 185 55 13 shouldnt be a problem, im sure toyos will be available again next summer, its metrics which will be a problem very soon.
but good to know carmacs are there if we get desperate, the only plus side of them is they dont wear out 
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Location: Wiltshire | I think the issue will be that if this supply, however limited it may be, has not enough takers, there wont be anymore after.
Yes there is a possability that Toyo will resume production, but when?, some firms are saying 12 - 18 months lead time, others are saying that it may not be likely that a size with such a small take up will be continued.
Apparently lots of firms in Japan that have suffered from the tsunami etc, are using the rebuild time to "rationalise" there product lines to improve there chances of returning to profitability.
Many have lost equipment and machinery to make certain things, and may not see it profitable to have it remade to contnue production.
I dont want to sound like a scaremonger, but for whats it's worth you have to be prepared for the fact that there may not be any Toyo's for quite some time to come in this size, or ever.
Mal.
Edited by Mg Mal 21/1/2012 12:21 PM
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Location: a pub in yorkshire | A539's and A048's are still readily available as we use them for racing, plus people use them on minis and if the mini community mee them they wont stop making them. But good to know there will be a tire still available if the going gets tough, although i wont be using it myself! |
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Location: Cornwall | Mg Mal - 21/1/2012 12:19 PM
I think the issue will be that if this supply, however limited it may be, has not enough takers, there wont be anymore after.
Yes there is a possability that Toyo will resume production, but when?, some firms are saying 12 - 18 months lead time, others are saying that it may not be likely that a size with such a small take up will be continued.
Apparently lots of firms in Japan that have suffered from the tsunami etc, are using the rebuild time to "rationalise" there product lines to improve there chances of returning to profitability.
Many have lost equipment and machinery to make certain things, and may not see it profitable to have it remade to contnue production.
I dont want to sound like a scaremonger, but for whats it's worth you have to be prepared for the fact that there may not be any Toyo's for quite some time to come in this size, or ever.
Mal.
your dead right ont he japan thing, however as long as they havent wiped out there factory/equipment it will be fine, tyre companys say every year they may not be any more... but there always is, as discussed int he section at the bottom best thing is for a big buy of tyres at the end of this summer. anything could happen this year but i may be prepaired to buy a bulk load if i can get a good price.
since they sell all the tyres they make every year it must be a profitable product.
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Location: Wiltshire | I know the big brands still make 185 /55/ 13 for the asian market as well as 165/60/13. ( I have seen them listed on Asia Tyre In singapore)
But for what ever reason (quality standards I suppose) they are not for the EU or UK markets, and cannot be imported legally.
It's just a pain that there are such limited supplys in the Uk.
Edited by Mg Mal 21/1/2012 1:17 PM
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Location: Wiltshire | bump for those who may not have seen it. |
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Location: Under a car somewhere | Have you tried using 175-60-13 ? Dirt cheap and readily available.
The day i have no other choice than camac is the day i never drive another metro. If you want certain death at least Camac is more certain than smoking and cheaper.... |
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Location: Wiltshire | I dont know why some of you are so anti Camac, and insist that anyone who has them wqill face "instant death" on the road.
Of course they are not as good in the wet as other branded tyres, but if you buy cheaper tyres due to budget / availability.............
Just don't drive like an idiot.
I have had minor issues with them, when mixed with other brands in the wet, but when a full set is fitted no issues at all.
There are owners out there who do auto test's and gymkana's with these tyres fitted and have no issues.
So you will quit your metro if they end up the only choice? thats up to you.
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Location: Preston, North West | I have been lucky enough to get hold of some toyo roadpro's yesterday,
had camacs on before and I can't get Over the difference.
Camacs are bad. |
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Location: Isle Of Wight | Falken do some 185/60R13 ZE912's £58
http://www.larkspeed.com/index.pl?p=1856013HBUFA912&a=i |
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Location: Cornwall | road pros are available to now....
http://ssl.delti.com/cgi-bin/rshop.pl?details=Ordern&cart_id=59706416.110.31849&typ=227510&ranzahl=4&Breite=185&Quer=55&Felge=13&Speed=H&weiter=0&kategorie=6&Ang_pro_Seite=15&Transport=P&dsco=110&sowigan=So
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Location: ashford/kent | my uncle has had camacs for along time on hes vvc gti and hes never had no trouble in the dry as i know of he went to llyden hill and was beating every one over lapped half the cars didnt look like he was having any trouble with them he does agree they are shit in the wet tho |
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Location: ashford/kent | and falkens are £47 on this site http://www.camskill.co.uk/m73b0s374p0/Car_Tyres_-_MPV_Tyres_-_People_Carrier_Tyres_-_13%5C_inch_R13_inch_-_185_60_13_185_60_R_13 |
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Location: Carmarthenshire, Wales | They are 185/60/R13 mate. |
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Location: ashford/kent | so are the falkens some one else put up i was just putting the same ones up but for cheaper |
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Location: ashford/kent | incase he was going to get a full set he would save over £40 from that site lol
Edited by Danb1991 28/3/2012 1:28 AM
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Location: Carmarthenshire, Wales | Oh right i see, fair enough. My apologies. |
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Location: Bournemouth | 175 60 13's are the answer
But i may of found a few roadpros 185 55 13s, if its a few more than 10 i will see if we can get a group buy sorted |
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Location: Cornwall | road pros are on my tyres already, camskill say they will have them mid april, hopefully be cheaper there.
Ralph
http://ssl.delti.com/cgi-bin/rshop.pl?details=Ordern&cart_id=39418272.110.11825&typ=227510&ranzahl=4&Breite=185&Quer=55&Felge=13&Speed=H&weiter=0&kategorie=6&Ang_pro_Seite=15&Transport=P&dsco=110&sowigan=So
Edited by ralphh85 28/3/2012 1:37 PM
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New 185/55/13 tyres
