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Hawkes41
Posted 12/5/2009 5:16 PM (#511155)
Subject: mgf subframe?


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Location: Warwick		if i buy a whole mgf will the subframe jus drop out with engine, gearbox etc, then bolt onto the metro with a few bits cut out of the mgf subframe?
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T3RRI
Posted 13/5/2009 2:29 AM (#511163 - in reply to #511155)
Subject: RE: mgf subframe?


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Location: Carlisle		i havnt done it myself but a mate has and theres a hell of alot to cut off the mgf frame compared to the metro would help if you had metro frame out first then you could alter to suit
 
ScaryToad
Posted 13/5/2009 2:36 AM (#511164 - in reply to #511155)
Subject: RE: mgf subframe?
Here are 3 images showing the difference, the bits you need to cut are highlighted in red.

You also need to grind off the little spacer thats in each 'hole' where the lower arm bush sits.





 
aquascrotum
Posted 10/10/2013 6:22 PM (#704585 - in reply to #511164)
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ScaryToad - 13/5/2009 2:36 AM






Am doing this mod at the minute - for my own curiosity, where the plate hole has to be re-cut to allow the steering arm to go, what was this flared section originally added to the F frame for?
 
aquascrotum
Posted 10/10/2013 6:54 PM (#704586 - in reply to #704585)
Subject: RE: mgf subframe?


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Location: Armagh, Northern Ireland		Left it too late to edit my last post...

For clarity -



I just want to be sure that cutting the slot out and using the steering arms isn't going to foul anything?
 
GTaddz
Posted 10/10/2013 9:58 PM (#704593 - in reply to #704586)
Subject: RE: mgf subframe?


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Location: Up in the lakes		Yeah, remove that plate so the steering rack sits in properly. Mgf steering arms are fine. Remember to use mgf tre's and bottom ball joints too.
 
vvc warrior
Posted 13/5/2009 3:07 AM (#511165 - in reply to #511155)
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Location: Co. Durham North East		the pictures shown are spot on for people wanting too do the mgf subframe conversion with a PG1
 
Hawkes41
Posted 13/5/2009 4:15 AM (#511167 - in reply to #511155)
Subject: RE: mgf subframe?


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Location: Warwick		cool cheers
does the mgf have a PG1?
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ScaryToad
Posted 13/5/2009 4:27 AM (#511168 - in reply to #511155)
Subject: RE: mgf subframe?
yes
 
jeckulz
Posted 13/5/2009 4:34 AM (#511170 - in reply to #511155)
Subject: RE: mgf subframe?


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Location: North West (Warrington)		Why fit an MGF frame for the sake of welding in a gearbox mount to the standard metty frame?

Thought it'd be a better plan to just go TF for the bonus of no hydrogas up-front?

Or have I missed some advantage to having an MGF frame?
 
ScaryToad
Posted 13/5/2009 5:02 AM (#511175 - in reply to #511170)
Subject: RE: mgf subframe?
jeckulz - 12/5/2009 10:34 AM

Why fit an MGF frame for the sake of welding in a gearbox mount to the standard metty frame?

Thought it'd be a better plan to just go TF for the bonus of no hydrogas up-front?

Or have I missed some advantage to having an MGF frame?


There isnt really an advantage to the mgf frame other than the fact its easier for most users to cut the bits off they dont need rather than try and cut out the bit they do need they weld it onto the metro frame.

Using an mgf frame means you dont need access to a welder, just a angle grinder and a tin of hammerite, also the gearbox mount on the mgf frame is right in the corner, i imagine quite tricky to cut out with a 4.5" grinder without damaging it.

Also my metro frame was quite rust and the wishbone captive nuts split off meaning i would have had to cut it open and weld patches over it, whereas my mgf frame was rust free, done 40k miles and came to bits easily. Also only cost me £35 on ebay complete with arb, hydro cans and hubs!
 
Dave VVC
Posted 14/5/2009 5:46 AM (#511391 - in reply to #511170)
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jeckulz - 13/5/2009 4:34 AM

Why fit an MGF frame for the sake of welding in a gearbox mount to the standard metty frame?

Thought it'd be a better plan to just go TF for the bonus of no hydrogas up-front?

Or have I missed some advantage to having an MGF frame?


Because if you haven't got a welder, then its easy to cut off the bits you dont need
with a £20 angle grinder, If you do have a welder, you still need the rear frame to
cut off the tie bar bracket (with your angle grinder!) to weld on.

I agree with going the TF frame route, but the same still applies, its easier to cut
off the bits you dont need, than to weld on stuff you do.
 
ScaryToad
Posted 14/5/2009 9:22 AM (#511445 - in reply to #511155)
Subject: RE: mgf subframe?
Dave, i hear an echo !
 
quick_spider
Posted 14/5/2009 9:35 AM (#511450 - in reply to #511445)
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ScaryToad - 14/5/2009 3:22 PM

Dave, i hear an echo !


echo echo echo
 
Dave VVC
Posted 15/5/2009 7:19 AM (#511615 - in reply to #511155)
Subject: RE: mgf subframe?
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WHAT, WHat, What, what, wha.
 
aquascrotum
Posted 10/10/2013 9:57 PM (#704592 - in reply to #511155)
Subject: RE: mgf subframe?


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Location: Armagh, Northern Ireland		To answer my own question...the flare is there on the Metro sub, I was given a bit of bum information by someone who said it was flat. Problem solved and hole opened.
 
PSQ
Posted 1/12/2013 11:17 AM (#706973 - in reply to #511155)
Subject: RE: mgf subframe?
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Location: southampton		hi,
can someone re-post the 2nd image? don´t know why I can only see 1st and 3rd
for tf subframe are the same cuts?
 
gti_boy_86
Posted 6/9/2015 6:24 PM (#719506 - in reply to #511155)
Subject: RE: mgf subframe?
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Can anyone repost the 3 pics of subframe?
Not sure what I need to take off the subframe and don't have the metro sub to compare

Edited by gti_boy_86 6/9/2015 6:26 PM
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